And looking at the font sizes, "Blues Unlimited" looks to be the subtitle.
2009-03-07 06655, 2009
Munger
They just kinda mashed it around a bit
2009-03-07 06605, 2009
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2009-03-07 06650, 2009
Munger
Ask any Alexis fan. There have been many 'Best of...' albums, but it's the 'Blues Unlimited' album they remember
2009-03-07 06659, 2009
navap
The spine lists just "The Best of Alexis Kromer"
2009-03-07 06600, 2009
navap
Which also suggests the title to be "The Best of Alexis Kromer: Blues Unimited"
2009-03-07 06632, 2009
Munger
Incidentally, the fact that's it's a 'Best of...' compilation with different musicians on each track kinda pours cold water on the idea that there was ever a band call 'Alexis Korner and Friends'
2009-03-07 06645, 2009
navap
Popular opinion isn't always accurate opinion, I call on the "White Album" by The Beatles as a perfect example.
2009-03-07 06618, 2009
navap
A MB "Artist" doesn't always have to exist in "real life"
2009-03-07 06644, 2009
Munger
I still think the track musicians should be in ARs instead
2009-03-07 06656, 2009
navap
The Party Album clearly looks like its credited to Alexis Korner and Friends
2009-03-07 06609, 2009
navap
Whether that is a real entity of not.
2009-03-07 06613, 2009
navap
or*
2009-03-07 06642, 2009
Munger
That's exactly what the guest performer AR is for isn't it?
2009-03-07 06610, 2009
navap
Well, they should certainly be added on, but the album artist usually goes by what is on the cover of the album.
Again, the info I found suggested it was only recorded in 1977, not released.
2009-03-07 06619, 2009
navap
Whether that RE needs to be added is separate from the edit being a duplicate though.
2009-03-07 06656, 2009
navap
Oh wait, my mistake, I wrote the wrong note
2009-03-07 06628, 2009
navap
That isn't a duplicate, it has only 8 tracks, and everything I found had 9. So I was supposed to write a note asking for more info.
2009-03-07 06602, 2009
navap
I wasn't sure, maybe there was a bootleg copy released in 1977.
2009-03-07 06603, 2009
Munger
Looks like the CD has an extra track
2009-03-07 06616, 2009
Munger
I am going to run into this a lot. Many of my records are so old that you won't find them online. Not everyone goes for vinyl rips. If you wanted to buy that album on vinyl it would set you back 200 quid or more
2009-03-07 06652, 2009
navap
The liner notes of the cd release state "The album we are considering here takes up the story later in the decade and documents a period in early 1977 when Alexis recorded at Foel Studios in Wales with a quartet known as Bandit: unearthed in January 1990, the master tape had been lying on a shelf gathering dust for years."
2009-03-07 06624, 2009
Munger
I gonna do some scanning :-)
2009-03-07 06613, 2009
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2009-03-07 06610, 2009
Munger
I'm still nothappy with that 'Alexis Korner and Friends' artist. It suggests the same musicians on both albums
2009-03-07 06600, 2009
Munger
The 'Best of' album was released 13 years after his death. and just re-used the monker he chose for The Party Album
There are a bunch of these Time-Life releases. They would produce one called "The Rock 'n' Roll Era: 1961" and follow it up with "The Rock 'n' Roll Era: 1961 Still Rockin'"
2009-03-07 06606, 2009
Munger
Then a couple of years down the line they would do it again with the same titles and aload of different tracks
2009-03-07 06635, 2009
Munger
fignew, I think the artwork displayed on MB is derived from Amazon. I don't think it's stored on MB
fignew, Hower the mouse over it and look at the target URL
2009-03-07 06638, 2009
navap
Amazon itself has very poor quality, I'm not sure what you meant when you said they have better quality.
2009-03-07 06604, 2009
navap
The .com has much better quality though.
2009-03-07 06647, 2009
Munger
You have to click through to Amazon and then click again to see the larger image
2009-03-07 06648, 2009
navap
Or the .de, it has the same date as the .co.uk
2009-03-07 06614, 2009
navap
Oh, I think you two are looking at the .com
2009-03-07 06617, 2009
Munger
Doesn't the artwork plugin pull the large image?
2009-03-07 06624, 2009
navap
The ASIN actually is pointing to the .co.uk
2009-03-07 06631, 2009
navap
Which has a 50px art :p
2009-03-07 06643, 2009
fignew
navap: yep
2009-03-07 06658, 2009
nikki
the .com one looks like customer art
2009-03-07 06604, 2009
nikki
which isn't usable
2009-03-07 06609, 2009
Munger
nikki, If I cancel that edit, how would you say the title should look?
2009-03-07 06612, 2009
navap
What about the .de
2009-03-07 06649, 2009
nikki
I suspect the .de one won't work either... it's showing up as ecx.images...
2009-03-07 06658, 2009
fignew
amazon.com has the customer art & an offical better quality picture.
2009-03-07 06602, 2009
Munger
nikki, On the cover, "The Rock'n'Roll Era" and "1961 Still Rockin'" are in different places. That's why I think the colon should stay where I put it
2009-03-07 06644, 2009
nikki
hmm, the .de one does seem to work (not as big as the one on the amazon page itself though)
2009-03-07 06607, 2009
Munger
It's like another one of those damned series. 1961 Still Rockin' is the qualifying subtitle
2009-03-07 06612, 2009
nikki
hmm...
2009-03-07 06635, 2009
navap throws http://www.discogs.com/label/Time+Life+Music out there
2009-03-07 06618, 2009
nikki
I definitely wouldn't include the time-life bit because that's listed as a division of some company (which would make it a label, I guess) and I'd personally have a colon between 1961 and still rockin', but that's just me
2009-03-07 06619, 2009
navap
Take a look at the long "Sounds of the ___" series' and "The Rock 'N' Roll Era", I think the year is the subtitle.
2009-03-07 06654, 2009
navap also agrees on taking the Time Life bit out of the title.
2009-03-07 06600, 2009
fignew
ok nikki, navap I fixed it :)
2009-03-07 06604, 2009
nikki
so it would be either The Rock 'n' Roll Era: 1961 Still Rockin' or The Rock 'n' Roll Era: 1961: Still Rockin'
2009-03-07 06624, 2009
Munger
The Rock 'N' Roll Era - 1961 Still Rockin' from that site. I agree that Time Life should be dropped from the title and put in a release event.
2009-03-07 06642, 2009
Munger
nikki, The former
2009-03-07 06644, 2009
navap
fignew: Wouldn't it make more sense to edit the current URL?
2009-03-07 06605, 2009
navap
fignew: There is also disc 2 btw ;)
2009-03-07 06642, 2009
Munger
nikki, Have to be very careful with these. Some may look like dupes but are not
2009-03-07 06652, 2009
fignew
navap: whoops, didn't remove the old ID
2009-03-07 06605, 2009
fignew
navap: no worries, disc 2 is next
2009-03-07 06614, 2009
nikki
it would be better to edit the url
2009-03-07 06620, 2009
nikki
instead of adding and removing
2009-03-07 06624, 2009
navap
fignew: Why would you? Wouldn't it make more sense to edit the URL of the current ASIN? Instead of adding a new one, and removing the old one.
2009-03-07 06613, 2009
fignew
I see the edit relationship tool
2009-03-07 06619, 2009
Munger
OK. I'm cancelling my edit, but I really would like a consensus so that we can get the series name right before I add the bunch I have here
2009-03-07 06653, 2009
fignew
navap: but when I go to edit the ASIN I can't change the URL
2009-03-07 06658, 2009
nikki
the asin will have an [info] link
2009-03-07 06620, 2009
fignew
ah hah
2009-03-07 06647, 2009
nikki
you were on the page for editing the relationship between the url and the album and you need to be on the actual url's page (since an url can be linked to more than one album)
2009-03-07 06659, 2009
fignew
thanks nikki & navap
2009-03-07 06609, 2009
navap
:)
2009-03-07 06639, 2009
nikki often goes to the relationship page by accident too even though she knows that's not where you edit urls :/
2009-03-07 06627, 2009
nikki
I seem to recall suggesting at some point that that page should say something like "to edit this url go here: (link to url page)"
2009-03-07 06654, 2009
nikki
but it was probably lost in the depths of irc
2009-03-07 06607, 2009
navap
fignew: Don't forget to cancel the add/remove edits you made
I understand why it's like that, but that doesn't stop me from wanting to go to that page
2009-03-07 06628, 2009
navap
There usually isn't, we're the ones who put it in to make sense of the info present.
2009-03-07 06604, 2009
navap
nikki: Exactly, thats where the unintuitive part comes in :p
2009-03-07 06626, 2009
Munger
I think the title should be "The Rock'n'Roll Era: 1961 Still Sockin'"
2009-03-07 06605, 2009
Munger
I can't add release events for all the ones already on MB, as they are not necessarily the same track listing as mine. I can only add what I have in front of me
2009-03-07 06619, 2009
Munger
err. Rockin'' :-D
2009-03-07 06659, 2009
mikemorr
I'd add the colon to make up for the fact that we can't put "1961" in a huge bubbly font and "Still Rockin'" in a smaller font in MB. Also it makes more grammatical sense to me that way ("1961: Still Rockin'")
2009-03-07 06657, 2009
Munger
Then You would have "The Rock'n'Roll Era: 1961: Still Rockin'" ?
2009-03-07 06624, 2009
Munger
The Rock'n'Roll Era was the name of the series
2009-03-07 06603, 2009
Munger
The release before that was simply "The Rock'n'Roll Era: 1961"
2009-03-07 06610, 2009
navap
"The Rock'n'Roll Era: 1961" was the name of one album "The Rock 'N' Roll Era: 1961: Still Rockin'" is the name of another, makes sense to me.
2009-03-07 06639, 2009
Munger
Doh! I have them in my hand grrrrrr
2009-03-07 06657, 2009
navap
"Sounds Of The Seventies: 1976" and "Sounds Of The Seventies: 1976: Take Two"
2009-03-07 06602, 2009
navap
etc.
2009-03-07 06621, 2009
Munger
Hang on. I'll post the artwork of another
2009-03-07 06631, 2009
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2009-03-07 06603, 2009
fignew
what's the requirement to be able to vote on edits?
I forgot I had genpuid running. It has fingerprinted 78000 songs so far
2009-03-07 06609, 2009
nikki
:o a lot
2009-03-07 06639, 2009
Munger
Only 20000 to go
2009-03-07 06625, 2009
Munger
And I'm still debating album naming. God, I need a life!
2009-03-07 06648, 2009
nikkeee
you'd probably only waste it anyway :P
2009-03-07 06654, 2009
Munger
I have to leave the Time-Life bit on. I can't change all the others, but for the 6 or 7 in question, I think I'm going with "Time-Life Music: The Rock'n'Roll Era: 1960 Still Rockin'". It is consistent with the others in the series, it preserves the grouping of the blocks of text on the cover, and it's just plain right
2009-03-07 06612, 2009
navap
Why do you have to leave it on?
2009-03-07 06650, 2009
navap
The "Time-Life Music: " part.
2009-03-07 06614, 2009
Munger
Did you see the last URL I posted? Somebody has obviously decided that the Time_Life stuff should have it, and at least it keeps them all together
2009-03-07 06656, 2009
navap
Yes I've seen that, but did you see the discogs link I pasted? They have them all without the label name.
2009-03-07 06602, 2009
Munger
We are talking about several hundred edits if we want to clean it up, and without release events for all of them, we lose the information about the publisher
2009-03-07 06638, 2009
navap
At the same time as one would edit the title, they would also (hopefully) clean the album up a bit, adding a RE, maybe adding a ASIN, Discogs..etc
2009-03-07 06640, 2009
Munger
YEs, but they have them linked to time life. What if we were to remove it from all of them and some have no REs?
2009-03-07 06617, 2009
navap
You can't bulk remove them, you have to manually edit them one by one. It's quite easy to se which ones are missing label info, and add them as you go :)
2009-03-07 06623, 2009
Munger
I agree, but that is a major job. I think I should leave it on so that my stuff remains assocaiated with the rest, if only by the title
2009-03-07 06653, 2009
Munger
I will add it to my list of things to look at when I have a week to spare :-)
2009-03-07 06627, 2009
Munger
I don't even know if the ones I propse to edit have REs
2009-03-07 06605, 2009
navap
Some do, some don't. And out of the ones that have info, there are some with complete info, some with only a year.
2009-03-07 06610, 2009
RifRaf
yep quite a few are missing publisher info from a quick check on here
It's those first 6 I want to change. Looking down the page there are two different conventions used
2009-03-07 06631, 2009
Munger
or three. They need tidying
2009-03-07 06644, 2009
fignew
I have another question: there's one compilation with two CDs. The first CD has a bunch of extra info. The second does not. How can I transfer the info from the 1st to the 2nd?
2009-03-07 06603, 2009
navap
"Extra info" being various links?
2009-03-07 06627, 2009
navap
You have to manually create the links again for the second disc, these isn't a way to copy them over.
