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I imagine it'll be easier to create a new dialog window/options pane to change the MB data <-> Tag mapping, than it will be to create a proxy to munge up the data from MB to then feed to Picard

why wouldn't you do this in picard?

(well, apart from the obvious python hating)

Because Picard would need to keep preferences for individual files/release/artists etc. It works fine as it is. A shim/gateway server can manage user accounts, collections, preferences, and simply supply data to Picard (or any client) massaged to the individuals taste

But Picard may or may not be able to use the extra data you're now feeding it.

I'd say if you're making rules for individual entries, you're doing it wrong.

Or Picard may be set to work with specific XML structures. Which then means hacking on Picard anyway.

That too.

Not at all. Let's take for example the notorious collections. If I want to specify diffrent naming conventions for a particular collection, I can group them and define that server-side. That does not prevent Picard applyijng it's own rules locally

I have no idea what 'notorious collections' is/are

e.g. 'The Blues Collection 1: Boogie Man' I prefer to have that displayed as /The Blues Collection - Volume 1 - Boogie Man' But only for that collection, not others like it

right. that qualifies as 'doing it wrong' in my book :)

I could also lump albums together in the server collection so that Picard sees info implying that they are indeed part of some conceptual collection, even if in truth they are not

If I want to organise my collection diffrently than others, who is wrong?

You. If you don't do the same everyone else, you're not normal. ¬_¬

I'm being sarcastic, if you can't tell.

I think he meant other collections :)

otherwise he makes even less sense to me

It's a series.

Composed of several cultural identifiers.

nikki: I think he's assuming there are/will be support for having more than one of those per user

Let's just say I want a collection called 'Munger's Obscure Blues Box Set'. (yeah, it's just a playlist really). I could create that virtual collection server side and feed Picard different Disc numbers, move the album title into the subtitle and feed tht to Picard and Everything still works without breaking Picard or MB

that basically means implementing a custom music database with MB-compatible web service

Sounds like effort.

If A relase does not exist in my online collection, the request simply gets passed through to MB and the response retyrned unadulterated

It's a lot of effort, but at least if anything changes on MBs side, it only needs adjusting on my shim server without having to modify every user's Picard and plugins

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In fact, MB would no longer have to worry about maintaining user's collectin, at that get's shifted to the shim/gateway server or whatever it is

hmm. if I got my query right, there's only 234 disc IDs associated with albums by different artists

102 of which have only one track...

PRoxy server. That's the word I was looking for. I bet squid could do a lot of the work as well

hmm. which way would you merge http://musicbrainz.org/release/ec37dd2b-3afd-43... and http://musicbrainz.org/release/f04dcf03-4d60-48... ?

2 vs the world ;-)

you could keep it quite simple by just storing the user prferences and changes for each album. on a request pull everything from MB, apply the local modifications if there are any and pass it on

nikkeee, I would make 'The Simpsons' the album artist on the 2nd release, and put Alf Clausen & Tom Kramer into ARs

outsidecontext, Yes, but the prozy would need a list of which albums to apply changes to. All data is always pulled from MB, but if release, artist or global changes are specified on the proxy then they are applied

bah, more work than I can be bothered with

I never said you had to do it. I am considering doing it myself on my server

I'd start with a simple squid filter and take it from there

I mean I can't be bothered to do anything more than merge them

OIC

:-D

outsidecontext, You ever run squid?

i have it installed here, and have been using the AdZapper filter in it for about 5 years.

never used it

A frienf of mine uses it to transcode all incoming avi files to mp4

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Where did the green tagger button go?

It's only there when you "launched" the site from picard.

Try the search box at the top.

munger: or just open any musicbrainz.org site with the parameter port=8000 (it's the port Picard is listening on per default)

Hmm. Now that there's been talk about feats in the mailing ist, anyone have any opinion about http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=10163099 ?

srotta: in general, I prefer to use whatever is on the release.

Usually, I don't really see the difference of whether to have the feat. in artist or in track field. Except that the first one generates collaboration artists just for single tracks - and I've often seen "Artist feat. A2: Track" and "Artist: Track (feat. A2)" seen interchangeably.

In this case, though, the current "primary artist" doesn't exist except in conjunction with that feat. so it seems pretty random to remove the feat. from the artist name.

Particularly since the "primary artist" would be a collaboration to begin with.

people would probably have no issue with it if they had used something other than 'feat' so I don't see a problem with it

Anyone got a link to an example of mapping the compiler AR into the djmixer tag?

Well, that general idea, anyway

Munger: what kind of example?

I needed three passes to figure out that compiler in that sentence is a human, and not e.g. GCC :(

I'm looking at the scripting language syntax, and was wondering what the tag name would be for the release 'Compiler' AR so I can map it into djmixer.

you can't do that using tagger script in picard

but you can write a trivial plugin

import picard.mbxml; picard.mbxml._artist_rel_types['Compiler'] = 'djmixer'

Other way around I think. I want the contents of 'Compiler' to be stored in djmixer

yes, so the line is correct :)

right becomes equal to left ????

it's a X -> Y mapping

it finds an AR of type X, looks into the dictionary, finds Y, saves it as Y

Weird. Looks like a pointer to djmixer tag is being assigned somewhere as a storage container I guess

Worked first time! Thank you! :-D

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nikkeee: do you ever copy liner notes to the annotation? would you fix errors if copying from a (japanese) release?

(e.g. this hase "Excutive Producer", and a few more errors)

s/hase/has/

http://musicbrainz.org/release/1ca0e835-a460-4b... (I could do a much better job of the ARs, all the credits are in the booklet.. but that's too much work a normal release, never mind 70 tracks on a single cd)

warp: slacker!

i think we need an AR parser,.. where I could just type away. 01 <enter> composer: Panigada, Leonardi, Guio <enter> producer: Bratt Sinclaire <enter><enter> 02 <enter> composer: G. Pasquini, A. Milani, T. Marin <enter> etc...

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I took all my art from amzon, so they all are [ASIN].jpg.

Do you have any missing artwork?

gaaarrrr

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yay, now the whole site is down.

you broke it!

Wow. Somebody is really into Dream Theatre. These are most thoroughly edited releases I have seen yet

also ugh at the 400 character limit for a comment.

http://musicbrainz.uservoice.com/pages/general/... :)

LotR: ^^

a question - I have a korean CD that has the korean characters, followed by either a translation or anglicization of the track title

should I include both parts in the track?

david_hilton_p: I would.

hmm. I would just put the transl(iter)ations on a pseudo-release

but that's just me :P

david_hilton_p, enter the native language release, then make a english language release seperate

english or whatever language you're transl(iter)ating into

then call the secondary language a "pseudo-release" and AR the two together

Anyone ever see genpuid run at 100% CPU for minutes at a time for a single track?

thanks

Isn't that what it's supposed to do when it's actually generating puid sauce instead of just returning exisiting ones?

FauxFaux: It's supposed to work a little harder. This one goes beyond the pale.