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      • AnMaster
        huh?

        • 2009-08-01 21334, 2009

      • AnMaster
        well I don't know the language there

        • 2009-08-01 21342, 2009

      • warp is dutch

        • 2009-08-01 21343, 2009

      • srotta_
        AnMaster: I usually don't add those Ltd/Inc/etc.

        • 2009-08-01 21347, 2009

      • srotta_
        srotta_ is now known as srotta

        • 2009-08-01 21359, 2009

      • AnMaster
        srotta, they seem to use it on the CD sleeves at least

        • 2009-08-01 21318, 2009

      • srotta
        Yeah, but in what purpose?

        • 2009-08-01 21351, 2009

      • srotta
        "Label" is different from company name, and we should store the former, not the latter. And yes, the line is thin and problematic.

        • 2009-08-01 21352, 2009

      • warp
        srotta: does it matter? they consider it part of their name, so we should use it.

        • 2009-08-01 21324, 2009

      • srotta
        warp: If it's really used consistently everywhere, then sure.

        • 2009-08-01 21303, 2009

      • warp
        exactly, so include it unless you see the name used without it somewhere.

        • 2009-08-01 21304, 2009

      • srotta
        That whole label thing hasn't really worked the way it should have. But that's the way it goes :P

        • 2009-08-01 21314, 2009

      • AnMaster
        what is the date field for labels used for?

        • 2009-08-01 21305, 2009

      • AnMaster
        wait, nm... can only be when company was founded/went bankrupt

        • 2009-08-01 21354, 2009

      • warp
        srotta: why not?

        • 2009-08-01 21301, 2009

      • srotta
        warp: One problem is the business entities vs. labels.

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      • srotta
        warp: Another is regional vs. global labels.

        • 2009-08-01 21301, 2009

      • warp
        ah, right.

        • 2009-08-01 21327, 2009

      • srotta
        Those are probably the most confusing aspects.

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      • warp
        I tend to work mostly where a label is just a single entity with only their own name as an imprint, so I rarely encounter problems.

        • 2009-08-01 21331, 2009

      • srotta
        Yeah, smaller labels are easy to handle. Well, usually.

        • 2009-08-01 21348, 2009

      • srotta
        Although some manage to make quite a mess out of themselves. :D

        • 2009-08-01 21353, 2009

      • warp
        haha

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      • pronik`
        when transliterating names for sort names, is it ok to use scientific transliteration?

        • 2009-08-01 21348, 2009

      • pronik`
        pronik` is now known as pronik

        • 2009-08-01 21357, 2009

      • jacckk has quit

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      • neothe0ne
        fuck yes, i finally got a foobar copy script to give me URL's which get parsed right by AddRelease

        • 2009-08-01 21315, 2009

      • neothe0ne
        add Clusters as release in MB is broken with unicode artists or soemthing.

        • 2009-08-01 21335, 2009

      • neothe0ne
        whoops

        • 2009-08-01 21344, 2009

      • neothe0ne
        i got so caught up in excitement i added the WRONG ALBUM

        • 2009-08-01 21326, 2009

      • BurgessShale has quit

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      • nikki_
        IIRC the problem with the clusters thing is to do with the way windows handles long urls (or rather, doesn't handle...)

        • 2009-08-01 21340, 2009

      • nikki_
        nikki_ is now known as nikki

        • 2009-08-01 21300, 2009

      • nikki
        I seem to recall some workaround which involved letting the user copy and paste the url, but it's not like I use windows so I don't really remember

        • 2009-08-01 21313, 2009

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      • nikki
        http://forums.musicbrainz.org/viewtopic.php?id=16… <- aha, I'm not imagining things

        • 2009-08-01 21300, 2009

      • neothe0ne
        Apache Server at www.musicbrainz.org Port 80

        • 2009-08-01 21318, 2009

      • neothe0ne
        cant add a 99 track Unicode release by url ;_;

        • 2009-08-01 21324, 2009

      • nikki prods brianfreud

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      • brianfreud jumps :)

        • 2009-08-01 21339, 2009

      • nikki points a couple of lines up

        • 2009-08-01 21302, 2009

      • nikki
        I'm sure you must be very familiar with that problem :P

        • 2009-08-01 21312, 2009

      • brianfreud
        yeah, I've run into and mentioned that one before :)

        • 2009-08-01 21321, 2009

      • brianfreud
        there's no great workaround

        • 2009-08-01 21359, 2009

      • neothe0ne
        http://pastebin.com/f38515897 <-- pastebin changed my unicode characters

        • 2009-08-01 21309, 2009

      • brianfreud
        only thing I've done, when I really didn't want to type a lot all over, was to find redundant bits in the data, shrink them ("Tom the long Foo Bar" --> "~1~"), then use search/replace after the editall loads to undo the shrinking

        • 2009-08-01 21310, 2009

      • neothe0ne
        that definitely wont fit in the URL bar lol, but with unicode it does

        • 2009-08-01 21305, 2009

      • nikki
        hmm... the plugin already has all the data it needs, so it should be possible to make an altered one which gives people something they can paste into the track parser (and then pray the track parser can parse it)

        • 2009-08-01 21343, 2009

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      • jacckk
        Is there anyway to see what the upgrade script is doing, its been sitting at ALTER TABLE for ages.

        • 2009-08-01 21327, 2009

      • luks
        many ALTER TABLEs in a row?

        • 2009-08-01 21333, 2009

      • jacckk
        what? :)

        • 2009-08-01 21321, 2009

      • luks
        whether it's a single ALTER TABLE command or not

        • 2009-08-01 21308, 2009

      • luks
        there isn't a simple way what is the script doing

        • 2009-08-01 21325, 2009

      • luks
        +to see

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      • jacckk
        Ah i see, just its been sitting there for hours now. I've looked at "ps auxww | grep ^postgres" and it just says its doing something with DELETE

        • 2009-08-01 21343, 2009

      • luks
        what hardware are you running it on?

        • 2009-08-01 21357, 2009

      • jacckk
        well its a virtual server, 1gb ram assigned and the host has 4x2ghz processors (not sure on specific model)

        • 2009-08-01 21310, 2009

      • luks
        disk speed is most likely the problem than (I assume you are using a virtual disk image for the DB)

        • 2009-08-01 21315, 2009

      • luks
        it shouldn't take hours normally

        • 2009-08-01 21358, 2009

      • jacckk
        yeah i am

        • 2009-08-01 21323, 2009

      • aCiD2
        ruaok around?

        • 2009-08-01 21333, 2009

      • luks
        go away

        • 2009-08-01 21350, 2009

      • ruaok pops in

        • 2009-08-01 21300, 2009

      • ruaok
        someone need banning?

        • 2009-08-01 21305, 2009

      • danderson
        Anon8121: to be more blunt: fuck off

        • 2009-08-01 21321, 2009

      • danderson
        ruaok: Anon8121 seems to want it, yeah.

        • 2009-08-01 21334, 2009

      • danderson
        Anon8121: we won't, no point in continuing.

        • 2009-08-01 21341, 2009

      • luks
        you will be stopped :)

        • 2009-08-01 21341, 2009

      • danderson
        bye bye now.

        • 2009-08-01 21353, 2009

      • ruaok
        whats the ban command?

        • 2009-08-01 21300, 2009

      • danderson
        ruaok: /ban Anon8121

        • 2009-08-01 21302, 2009

      • danderson
        should do the trick

        • 2009-08-01 21315, 2009

      • danderson
        ruaok: or op me and I'll shoot him.

        • 2009-08-01 21349, 2009

      • danderson
        ruaok: and now /kick Anon8121

        • 2009-08-01 21352, 2009

      • ruaok
        god damn mofo.

        • 2009-08-01 21358, 2009

      • ruaok
        ruaok has kicked Anon8121 from #musicbrainz

        • 2009-08-01 21309, 2009

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      • MBChatLogger
        is logging

        • 2009-08-01 21321, 2009

      • farmer.freenode.net
        Users on #musicbrainz-devel: MBChatLogger ruaok aCiD2 Jozo nikki pronik Muz brianfreud navap dan_k Cycles` warp CatCat

        • 2009-08-01 21334, 2009

      • ruaok
        feh. you suck, MBChatLogger

        • 2009-08-01 21334, 2009

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      • ruaok
        MBChatLogger: off

        • 2009-08-01 21336, 2009

      • MBChatLogger
        is not logging

        • 2009-08-01 21348, 2009

      • MBChatLogger
        is logging

        • 2009-08-01 21348, 2009

      • farmer.freenode.net
        Users on #musicbrainz-devel: MBChatLogger jacckk ruaok aCiD2 Jozo nikki pronik Muz brianfreud navap dan_k Cycles` warp CatCat

        • 2009-08-01 21350, 2009

      • pronik
        bill the spammer :)

        • 2009-08-01 21304, 2009

      • ruaok
        fixed

        • 2009-08-01 21313, 2009

      • pronik
        yepp, works

        • 2009-08-01 21328, 2009

      • pronik
        btw, I hope everyone likes the colored chatlogs now :)

        • 2009-08-01 21308, 2009

      • ruaok wishes his kick would always show in orange

        • 2009-08-01 21311, 2009

      • ruaok
        :-)

        • 2009-08-01 21344, 2009

      • pronik
        I thought about highlighting VIPs

        • 2009-08-01 21354, 2009

      • pronik
        you mean nick, right ;)

        • 2009-08-01 21333, 2009

      • ruaok
        yeah

        • 2009-08-01 21341, 2009

      • ruaok is doing manual labor in the sun. brain no workie

        • 2009-08-01 21310, 2009

      • nikki still doesn't like the colours :(

        • 2009-08-01 21317, 2009

      • pronik
        nikki: gotta give it some better algorithm...

        • 2009-08-01 21349, 2009

      • nikki
        which won't make me like it any more, I bet...

        • 2009-08-01 21322, 2009

      • nikki
        I like everyone to have the same coloured nick, so unless it only produces two colours, I'll still find it confusing

        • 2009-08-01 21310, 2009

      • pronik
        you are the target group for the checkbox on the first page, I guess :)

        • 2009-08-01 21332, 2009

      • nikki
        I was the one who asked for it... pity it doesn't work

        • 2009-08-01 21351, 2009

      • pronik
        ruaok: in my IRC client, your nick is actually dark-orange, maybe I'll port the color scheme some day...

        • 2009-08-01 21304, 2009

      • navap
        The checkbox? It works for me.

        • 2009-08-01 21312, 2009

      • nikki
        >_<

        • 2009-08-01 21329, 2009

      • nikki
        it doesn't do anything for me :/

        • 2009-08-01 21305, 2009

      • pronik
        cookies enabled?

        • 2009-08-01 21313, 2009

      • nikki
        yeah

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      • pronik
        browser = opera?

        • 2009-08-01 21317, 2009

      • nikki
        I tried in safari and camino

        • 2009-08-01 21334, 2009

      • nikki
        the script doesn't work in opera anyway

        • 2009-08-01 21300, 2009

      • pronik
        I tried it locally in opera and it worked

        • 2009-08-01 21307, 2009

      • nikki
        oh

        • 2009-08-01 21315, 2009

      • navap
        I'm using Opera and it's working for me.

        • 2009-08-01 21337, 2009

      • nikki
        oh, I turned js off for that subdomain

        • 2009-08-01 21326, 2009

      • nikki
        btw, does anyone know why the text is indented so much for the chatlogs? there's like 3cm of space on my screen between nicks and what they say

        • 2009-08-01 21329, 2009

      • pronik
        just tested with opera 10b2, but I see: nevermind :)

        • 2009-08-01 21342, 2009

      • pronik
        nikki: it's currently about 23em fixed

        • 2009-08-01 21353, 2009

      • pronik
        I wanted to implement dynamic widht, but never came to it

        • 2009-08-01 21304, 2009

      • navap
        It's probably because the longers nick is "farmer.freenode.net"

        • 2009-08-01 21328, 2009

      • nikki
        no, I checked, even the longest nicks normally have space after them

        • 2009-08-01 21339, 2009

      • pronik
        navap: width is fixed currently

        • 2009-08-01 21300, 2009

      • navap
        Oh so it is.

        • 2009-08-01 21318, 2009

      • navap
        I guess it's that way to make sure the majority of nicks fit.

        • 2009-08-01 21352, 2009

      • pronik
        we could try harder :)

        • 2009-08-01 21321, 2009

      • navap
        Thoughts on this anyone? http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=10954820…

        • 2009-08-01 21357, 2009

      • warp
        i'm leaning towards no

        • 2009-08-01 21348, 2009

      • warp
        it's a valid entry, if it is deleted then later re-added it will have a new MBID for no good reason.

        • 2009-08-01 21301, 2009

      • nikki
        pronik: btw, http://lmfao.org.uk/chatlogs.png is what I get

        • 2009-08-01 21317, 2009

      • navap
        warp: So you think it's fine to just have 1 out of the 21 discs in the database?

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      • pronik
        nikki: looks ok, except for missing monospaced font

        • 2009-08-01 21302, 2009

      • pronik
        no wonder those are that wide

        • 2009-08-01 21307, 2009

      • pronik
        the column I mean

        • 2009-08-01 21319, 2009

      • warp
        navap: 'fine' is a bit strong. obviously it would be better for all discs to be in the DB.

        • 2009-08-01 21319, 2009

      • navap wonders why someone would only have disc 11 tagged on their computer.

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      • warp
        navap: but i'm not opposed to it, the others can be added later, I see no practical problems with leaving this one in the DB.

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      • CatCat wants perma DodgerBlue colour

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      • CatCat
        (for the chatlogger)

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