drsaunde: So what's stopping you from nominating that someone else still?
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nikki
meh. I wish someone would make the csg stop conflicting with the german capitalisation standard
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VxJasonxV
oh crap I meant to /part not /quit. gg me
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navap
heh
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navap
/alias quit echo Are you sure?
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navap
Well actually, mine echos "Noooooooooo" :)
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VxJasonxV
indeed...
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brianfreud__
nikki: re "We don't know when that will be nor what will happen in the meantime.", do you really expect that ACs will somehow get dropped, or changed somehow to something unrecognizable, at this late date?
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nikki
brianfreud__: that's not what I meant at all, of course artist credits won't be dropped
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brianfreud__
lol, yeah - hence why your comment puzzled me
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nikki
I meant that we don't know what will happen with the artists in the meantime, if anyone makes a lot of edits to any of them, it might change whether we want to merge them and into which artist
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brianfreud__
well, they're SPA catchalls - the only real change any could have which would, somehow, "validate" them would be for someone to identify every single artist in them, such that they don't still exist come NGS
2009-12-02 33616, 2009
nikki
given how strange the world is, it's entirely possibly that some of them could be valid artists, and if someone came along and added a bunch of stuff to one of them, it'd be a bad idea to just merge it away
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brianfreud__
"Sega", "CAPCOM", or "[religeous music]" as somehow being valid, as well as SPAs?
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nikki
sega is certainly short and simple enough to be potentially valid
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brianfreud__
to [unknown]. Right?
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nikki
yeah, but I imagine most people would just blindly vote yes based on the fact that we've already decided to merge them, and not actually check whether the artists are still in the same state they were x months ago :/
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brianfreud__
lol
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brianfreud__
I guess I kind of assume I'll end up being the one who creates the merge edits in the first place, hence it being up to me in the first place to figure out if it's still even an SPA or not.
"The album is available with 6 tracks now but it was originally published with 7 tracks"
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x-pilot
Wizzcat: ok, thank you
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Wizzcat
the dates should be different, but what can you do
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m8ram
hi there
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m8ram
I've got an 8 disc release which is not in MusicBrainz nor in freedb
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m8ram
first question: is there any other source I can look for this release?
2009-12-02 33616, 2009
m8ram
second question: if I have to enter this myself, is there a way to start by creating a release group and add all discs as releases in this release group immediately?
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m8ram
or do I have to enter them as separate release groups first and then merge them?
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warp
m8ram: once you have created a release group, visit the page for that release group and click 'add release' to add more releases to the release group.
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m8ram
warp: is there a page to create a release group? I only see "create release" and "create release VA"
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m8ram
or is there a way to create a release group from the "add release" page?
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fatih
m8ram: There is a link "Add release group" in artist pages.
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m8ram
I started by inserting one of the discs in my PC and "lookup CD" from within picard
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warp
m8ram: A release group is automatically created when you add a release through any other means. To me, that is the easiest way to do this. I just edit the title of the release group afterward.
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warp
(I mean, I edit the title of the release group to remove the (disc 1: foo) stuff)
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m8ram
ok so I add one of the discs, which will create a release group with that name
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m8ram
edit that release group to remove the disc X and then add more releases to it
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warp nods.
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warp
that's how I do it anyway :)
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m8ram
seems cumbersome
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m8ram
I'll do it this way
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m8ram
another question: one of the tracks has as artist "The temptations original lead singers"
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m8ram
should I file this under "the temptations"?
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m8ram
or create a new artist?
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m8ram
seems to be a reunion without the motown backing musicians
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m8ram
and another question:
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m8ram
on the disc the following is printed:
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m8ram
marketed and distributed by Weton-Wesgram B.V. Oud-Beyerland, the Netherlands
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m8ram
so it looks like "country" is Netherlands
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m8ram
however it also says: A product from UK Manufactured in European Union
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Wizzcat
the country of the label is usually the correct one to use
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m8ram
what shoudl I enter as country?
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Wizzcat
which label is it?
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m8ram
I assume Weton-Wesgram
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Wizzcat
no, that's the distributer, we don't really log those
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m8ram
but there is also a logo of "mcps" on it
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Wizzcat
check the spine
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m8ram
you mean the small side of the box?
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m8ram
all it says is "Love Story" and "KB0X804A
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Wizzcat
ah, it's a box, no spine then
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m8ram
sorry not familiar with the English terms for this
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m8ram
I mean the "container" of the disc
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m8ram
it was originally in a cardboard box to hold all 8 discs together
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Wizzcat
there's usually a logo for the label somewhere
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Muz
It's a love story.
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Muz
Just say yes.
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Muz bets it's not the pro Love Story. ¬_¬
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m8ram
if there is a label somewhere I can't find it
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m8ram
maybe because it's a compilation?
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Wizzcat
actually it might be weton-wesgram afterall
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m8ram
so country would be the netherlands then?
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m8ram
hmm more fun: it even lacks a bar code...
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Wizzcat
what's the name of the box set?
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m8ram
Love story: over 7 hours of great lovesongs
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Wizzcat
where on earth did you find that, not a mention anywhere :p
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m8ram
the only reference I find to this is on an online shop:
Wizzcat: bought it in a supermarket (€9,90 for the entire box)
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m8ram
funny thing is that on that site three out of the 8 discs are for sale
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Wizzcat
but yeah, set it to UK methinks, cat# KBOX804[ABCDEFG whichever applies]
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m8ram
ah, OK I'll change it, what comment should I enter?
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Wizzcat
whatever you feel like, it says uk on the box anyway
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m8ram
sorry, one more question
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m8ram
I've completed the first disc, renamed the release group
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m8ram
now I want to add the other discs to the same release group
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m8ram
when I check the second disc in picard it obviously can't find the disc id so I hit lookup manually
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Wizzcat
mm, I don't think there's any way to add to the same release group if you add from picard
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m8ram
I then entered the title of the first release and it shows me the release I just added
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m8ram
but it doesn't offer me to add it as an additional release to that group
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Wizzcat
you'll have to create a new release and group, and merge the groups later
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m8ram
Wizzcat: so I need to add it as a different release group and then merge them?
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m8ram
sync :)
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m8ram
ok, too bad
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m8ram
would make a nice feature if that could be added
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Wizzcat
you can add the disc to the old group manually, but not from picard, adn then you'll have to add the disc id later instead, so nothing really gained
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Wizzcat
yup, but release groups are fairly new
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MBChatLogger
aCiD2 probably meant ' m8ram: if you have a feature request, please put it on bugs.musicbrainz.org then I can actually do something about it in the future :) '
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aCiD2
m8ram: if you have a feature request, please put it on bugs.mb.org then I can actually do something about it in the future :)
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m8ram
aCiD2: will do
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LotR boggles at MBChatLogger
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m8ram
what is the best way to merge to VA release groups?
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m8ram
for an artist you can select both releases on the artist' page
