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      • warp
        Muz: what if it's a german band and all the text surrounding the download is in german?
      • 2009-01-09 00944, 2009

      • Muz
        So what that's in Bulgarian or released by someone in Bulgaria?
      • 2009-01-09 00951, 2009

      • Muz
        IT's still world wide
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      • warp
        Muz: but why is it world wide if the intended audience is ppl who can read bulgarian?
      • 2009-01-09 00924, 2009

      • Wizzcat
        so is a cd, you can buy it on amz right?
      • 2009-01-09 00953, 2009

      • Muz
        warp, because people who can read bulgarian can be anywhere in the world and not just Bulgaria
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      • AMurderofCrows
        because not only people who live in bulgaria can read bulgarian
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      • Muz high fives Mudcrow
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      • Wizzcat
        since when did release country mean it was exclusively applicable for people living in that country
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      • AMurderofCrows
        AMurderofCrows is now known as mudcrow
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      • Muz
        Wizzcat: no one ever said that
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      • mudcrow wonders what country releases in Klingon are aimed at
      • 2009-01-09 00952, 2009

      • Muz
        whichever country has the largest inhabitants of sad basement dwelling geeks
      • 2009-01-09 00957, 2009

      • nikki
        haha
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      • mudcrow
        ah you mean america :p
      • 2009-01-09 00913, 2009

      • LotR
        why do they have to be large people?
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      • Muz
        Because your average trekky is a fat bastard
      • 2009-01-09 00938, 2009

      • mudcrow
        nah! usually skinny
      • 2009-01-09 00945, 2009

      • warp
        lol
      • 2009-01-09 00958, 2009

      • Muz wonders if this release country thing is settled now
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      • warp
        Muz: ofcourse not.
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      • nikki
        Muz: is anything ever settled around here? :P
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      • LotR
        I know! we'll settle it by shooting warp ;)
      • 2009-01-09 00948, 2009

      • mudcrow
        the dust
      • 2009-01-09 00953, 2009

      • nikki
        aww! poor warp!
      • 2009-01-09 00913, 2009

      • warp
        Muz: i'm not convinced, and I obviously haven't convinced many people here of my POV. so this is just the start of an epic war of the ReleaseCountry!
      • 2009-01-09 00932, 2009

      • mudcrow
        epic warp
      • 2009-01-09 00941, 2009

      • LotR
        yay! something different to fight over than vim vs. emacs.
      • 2009-01-09 00927, 2009

      • warp
        i don't think the guidelines are very clear on this either, so for now I'll leave this as bulgarian... but won't object if someone changes it to [worldwide].
      • 2009-01-09 00929, 2009

      • mudcrow
        vim? isnt that a toilet cleaner?
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      • warp
        LotR: hm... i think i want to get back to emaics... but it's not easy to get into it again.
      • 2009-01-09 00900, 2009

      • warp
        I think I used emacs from 1998 to 2006, and vim since that. so I have many more years of emacs experience, i didn't expect it would take such an effort to switch back...
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      • LotR
        oh. the releasecountry thing isn't an isolated incident; warp is making more bad decisions recently ;) perhaps shooting him is the humane thing to do after all
      • 2009-01-09 00934, 2009

      • sonium
        can someone recommend me a good winamp-style media player for mac?
      • 2009-01-09 00905, 2009

      • ruaok
        its not winamp, but I really like Play
      • 2009-01-09 00909, 2009

      • ruaok
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      • LotR
        yay, media-player holy war next!
      • 2009-01-09 00912, 2009

      • nikki
        ruaok: :D
      • 2009-01-09 00956, 2009

      • warp
        sonium: also look at cog, http://cogx.org/ no idea if it's any good, but I've heard the name a few times.
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      • warp 'just' uses music player daemon.
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      • sonium
        this looks fine
      • 2009-01-09 00905, 2009

      • FauxFaux
        Foooooooooooooobar. Wait, probably not on Windows, or you'd be using it already. ¬_¬
      • 2009-01-09 00907, 2009

      • nikki
        I think cog probably works more like winamp than play
      • 2009-01-09 00915, 2009

      • nikki
        play's more a library thing, cog's a playlist thing
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      • sonium
        it's not for me anyway, but a friend who is going to buy a mac
      • 2009-01-09 00942, 2009

      • nikki
        they're written by the same person afaik as well
      • 2009-01-09 00943, 2009

      • FauxFaux reads nikki's line as "I think my dog likes winamp more than play"
      • 2009-01-09 00951, 2009

      • LotR
        friends don't let friends buy macs!
      • 2009-01-09 00955, 2009

      • warp
        nikki: ah, i thought the page design was similar :)
      • 2009-01-09 00902, 2009

      • nikki
        FauxFaux: eww, dogs
      • 2009-01-09 00918, 2009

      • nikki
        I think my cat likes play more than winamp :P
      • 2009-01-09 00918, 2009

      • FauxFaux
        D;
      • 2009-01-09 00914, 2009

      • Muz
        Dog :D
      • 2009-01-09 00917, 2009

      • Muz
        Woof.
      • 2009-01-09 00915, 2009

      • navap
        heh couple hours ago, me and Prodoc had a conversation about a release that had a dog credited as a performer.
      • 2009-01-09 00921, 2009

      • mudcrow
        I'm tryiing to think of the band that had a dog credited as a band member
      • 2009-01-09 00932, 2009

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      • MBChatLogger
        Send Bush to the Hague!
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      • Prodoc
        That was Bush
      • 2009-01-09 00918, 2009

      • MBChatLogger
        Send Bush to the Hague!
      • 2009-01-09 00918, 2009

      • ruaok
        wrong bush, MBChatLogger
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      • ruaok
        stupid git
      • 2009-01-09 00930, 2009

      • Prodoc
        There's also a band which has a dog as the lead singer of the band, have to look that on up again though
      • 2009-01-09 00907, 2009

      • FauxFaux
        Woof!
      • 2009-01-09 00933, 2009

      • mikemorr
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      • mikemorr
        and there's one with a bird: Hatebeek
      • 2009-01-09 00934, 2009

      • Prodoc
        Ah yes, just found it!
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      • Prodoc
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      • Prodoc
        (link added)
      • 2009-01-09 00936, 2009

      • mutemathic
        "The ReleaseCountry is the country in which an Release was sold from a certain ReleaseDate on." ... so i'd say.. it's sold worldwide per internet..
      • 2009-01-09 00947, 2009

      • mutemathic
        my 2ct
      • 2009-01-09 00900, 2009

      • mutemathic
        or maybe the definition is just not precise enough.. especially if its freely available everywhere and not sold.. its still a release but a country doesn't really make sense.. hmm
      • 2009-01-09 00907, 2009

      • andyb
        It seems country really differentiates between versions of what the label brands as the same release, such as a [US] vs [UK] release, where the tracks on each individual release may differ slightly
      • 2009-01-09 00912, 2009

      • ruaok
        brb
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      • mikemorr
        Hm. http://musicbrainz.org/doc/SortNameStyle says sortnames should be in Latin script. Is Icelandic considered Latin script? Previous discussion: http://chatlogs.musicbrainz.org/2005/2005-12/2005…
      • 2009-01-09 00940, 2009

      • nikki
        icelandic is latin, yes
      • 2009-01-09 00924, 2009

      • mikemorr
        So should the sortname be changed from Theyr to Þeyr for http://musicbrainz.org/artist/a060807d-2847-4c40-… ?
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      • mikemorr
        lol, I didn't see it was your edit, nikki: http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=2575282
      • 2009-01-09 00936, 2009

      • nikki
        I'd change it back now though :P
      • 2009-01-09 00918, 2009

      • nikki
        there used to more of a preference for ascii-only, but now people seem to be ok with all latin stuff
      • 2009-01-09 00934, 2009

      • mikemorr
        Shall I change it then?
      • 2009-01-09 00940, 2009

      • nikki
        sure
      • 2009-01-09 00940, 2009

      • mudcrow
        the artist sort has been bugging me recently, I get annoyed looking at my collection and seeing that caps are sorted before normal case, so MOBS is the first artist beginning with M
      • 2009-01-09 00946, 2009

      • nikki
        'theyr' is probably more useful for english speakers, but by icelandic alphabet ordering, þ should be after z
      • 2009-01-09 00918, 2009

      • nikki
        which brings me back to the whole sorting problem again :P
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      • mudcrow
        is wouldnt expect Þeyr to be under T. I'd probably look under P, but I'm stupid
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      • mudcrow
        haha http://www.kbdrecords.com/2006/07/20/pin-point-ri… read the last post, seems someone is unhappy
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      • mudcrow
        he's talking about Arturo Bassick, member of The Lurkers & PinPoint. I like Arturo, I now think Martin Rushent is a twat
      • 2009-01-09 00920, 2009

      • nikki
        I still think it's rather amusing that þ is called þorn...
      • 2009-01-09 00900, 2009

      • mudcrow
        swedish: Malet or Målet ?
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      • mudcrow
        hmm, both translate. Malet as minced and Målet as The Goal
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      • mudcrow
        you should never translate stuff. Raped Teenagers EP has lost some of its shine once I translated the title "Jag gillar blommor" (I like flowers)
      • 2009-01-09 00927, 2009

      • bscheiman
        are those changes intentional or is it an encoding/codepage issue?
      • 2009-01-09 00903, 2009

      • mudcrow
        what changes?
      • 2009-01-09 00921, 2009

      • bscheiman
        the accented characters
      • 2009-01-09 00924, 2009

      • mudcrow
        they are differences between the tags on the files and a tracklisting online. tags have Målet, tracklisting says Malet
      • 2009-01-09 00930, 2009

      • bscheiman
        I've had to deal with ����� turning into stuff like �# and the like
      • 2009-01-09 00903, 2009

      • symphonick
        mudcrow: what's the context?
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      • mudcrow
        http://www.swedishpunk.com/records.php?id=608 no context really. its a track title. It threw me that the tags had an accented character while (the usuall) very good website doesn't.
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      • nikki
        does it have any lyrics?
      • 2009-01-09 00934, 2009

      • mudcrow
        tags also have titles spelt Bedövad & Stall Dig I Kö Ko which the website doesnt
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      • nikki
        hi brianfreud
      • 2009-01-09 00951, 2009

      • brianfreud
        hi :)
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      • mudcrow
        yes nikki, in swedish, so doesnt ask me what they are
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      • symphonick
        mudcrow: bedövad, ställ dig i kö
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      • mudcrow
        thanks symphonick ställ dig i kö makes more sense. google translated Stall dig i ko, ko as stand in the cow, cow. which seemed a puzzling title
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      • symphonick
        "put yourself in line"
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      • symphonick
        ,cow?
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      • mudcrow
        ask google. but I've been doing a lot of japanese releases recently, and stand in the cow seems perfectly normal for a song title
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      • juhae
        what a wonderful name the album has :)
      • 2009-01-09 00902, 2009

      • nikki
        haha
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      • symphonick
        well, "place yourself in [the] line, cow" makes most sense... I'd need the rest of the lyrics to figure out Målet vs. Malet
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      • symphonick
        mudcrow: FWIW rateyourmusic has "Målet" http://rateyourmusic.com/release/ep/raped_teenage…
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      • mudcrow
        thanks symphonick: I went with Målet too, as its seemed more likely
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      • mudcrow
        The gathering of the thousands festivals recommence with an all night event,to be held in London’s best venue. The event opens 6pm on bank holiday good/bad friday and finishes at 7am saturday 11th - my god, I'll never survive 11 hours!
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      • chefkoch_
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      • pbryan
        See: http://musicbrainz.org/release/f6d99544-4935-4f1e… and http://musicbrainz.org/release/9b62e638-3768-4f39…. Same track listing. I have the former, but the disc ID for this release points to the latter. Content appears to be the same, except reviews indicated that there is substantial audio quality differences between the two, which is why I sprang for the Italian (GDM) release. Should these be
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      • warp
        pbryan: you got cut off.
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      • warp
        pbryan: Should these be.....
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      • pbryan
        Should these be merged, or should I move the disc ID to the Italian release?
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      • pbryan
        BTW, warp: see http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/pbryan for published versions of my scripts.
      • 2009-01-09 00956, 2009

      • warp
        if the audio is significantly different, i wouldn't merge them.
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      • mudcrow
        dunno, it was merged before, but as warp said
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      • warp
        i expect some of the release level ARs are different.
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      • pbryan
        Well, PUIDs (that are there) seem to indicate that they match.
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      • mudcrow
        but that could be people PUIDing the wrong release?