#musicbrainz

O.o

That simply cannot be right, removal edit: http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=5929522

Hurhurhur.

well

mmh

libtunepimp 0.5.2 and picard 0.7.2 have been uploaded to debian experimental

Le_Vert: I really don't like one thing about your package

but you probably know which one...

luks: Is there a Scots (sco) translation in progress of the current Picard?

no

which one ?

the patch

about config.guess/sub ?

no

oh

about picard ?

yes

yes sorry

the dialog that asks for donations is there for a reason

I never saw any nagscreen in any debian package

I think people will bug report against that

it's pretty annoying

yes, it is

but i don't really understand the logic

on one hand you want to use MB

on the other hand you cut-off one of the main MB's income

well

we could add a Contribute! entry in help menu

I doubt it'd have as much effecy

effect, rather

I don't think a popup that spawn after each start will help to get contribuion

i'll just annoy users and they will make the same patch as me

and attach it to our BTS

Yeah, it won't help at all. That's why it was just mentioned as being one of the main sources of income

If you pay it doesn't bug you anymore. Pretty standard.

Could I get some votes to push http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=5930087 through, please? :) Merge of duplicate cds, both suck.

Morning

or afternoon. :)

Kerensky97: ping?

hullo

I'm working to implement the new release type and to fix up the AR on the main server.

for the pseudo-release I need to have a description....

album -> "An album release primarily consists of previously unreleased material..."

do you guys have a nice concise one sentence description?

well it's basically http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/VirtualDuplicateRel...

:D

Now to think of a way to shrink down a wiki page into a sentance.

Kerensky97: yup, that's exactly what's needed.

If you can work that up, I can get it live on my test server ASAP.

Hi all. I'm wondering - musicbrainz matches albums quite well - my I search for "foobar (disc 1)" it will match the album "foobar" whereas if I search "foobar (disc 2)" it correctly matches "foobar (bonus disc)" which is quite neat.

How does the backend do its approx string matches?

lucene

it uses lucene?

ja

mke: no.

it use a levenshtein edit distance algorithm for text matches.

Ok - what's it use then? Homebrew text matching?

Ah, I thought so.

:s

sorry

PS3 vs. Wii: http://vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=212

"A pseudo-release is a duplicate release allowed to stay under MusicBrainz rules for translation purposes." ?

Is it difficult to implement? I've been thinking of using some Perl levenshtein implementations, but I'm a little, hum, wary. :)

sounds good to me

mke: there are perl implementations. we use it a lot.

"A pseudo-release is a duplicate release allowed to stay in MusicBrainz rules for translation purposes" might be better grammar

Kerensky97: I don't like the "allowed to stay part"

ruaok: also, what parameters do you use for the levenshtein matching? what's the max edit distance you allow?

also not rules

"A pseudo-release is a duplicate release in MusicBrainz for translation purposes, etc."

"A pseudo-release is a duplicate release for translation/transliteration purposes"

either of those, they're basically the same.

I liked the last one

I'll go with the last one for now. Don will make me change it anyway. :)

:)

:)

mke: it depends on the context.

I usually convert the edit distance to a percentage.

makes it easier for me to think about.

percentage of total string length?

combined total string length.

ed / len(a) + len(b)

er.

1. - (ed / len(a) + len(b))

Aha, why combined string lenth? (Or is that a really dumb question? :))

Uh.. lucene uses LD, doesn't it?

FauxFaux: I dont know.

mke: max edit distance.

Sorry, what I meant was "Lucene uses LD". :)

if you have two entirely different strings, the max edit distance is len(a) + len(b)

Aha, of course. I'm sorry :)

I'm being more than slightly thick tonight.

np.

!wtf LD

Yeah, it looks very damn useful.

bah brainz bot is deada

levensthein edit distance

ooohhkkjk

I'm about to give it a spin on this lyrics fetching script I wrote :)

http://musicbrainz.org/search/textsearch.html?q... <-- nice error. :)

(It's missing about 1000 of my 8000 songs, I'm hoping the LD thing will work.)

Why not? :)

catgruff: http://vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=206

mke: legal rights. lyrics are a minefield

ruaok: Ah, I see. That's a huge shame. :(

But never mind legal rights - getting reliable and accurate lyrics for a database of songs as huge as musicbrainz is bloody impossible anyway.

FauxFaux: please enter a bug report about that.

Freso: heh

but also: WTF kittyears?

ruaok: Already on it. :)

FauxFaux: thanks.

Kerensky97: this edit obviates the need for me to worry about moving the AR from test to live, right?

catgruff: VGCats = Video Game Cats - note the "Cats"

hmm odd

ruaok: I think so, live already has a language/script AR that kind of appeared out of nowhere.

Kerensky97: you can search mods to see who set that AR, ya know?

ok, I'll leave it be then for now.

mke: I have (after faking an svn repository) http://faux.no-ip.biz/svn/unixutils/fuzzy/, a command-line tool to print out the LD of two arguments.

FauxFaux: Using perl: use Text::Levenshtein; :)

ruaok: I don't know how to do a search like that.

mke: Booo! Perl sucks!

Perl rocks.

Do it in sed and batch files!