10:15 AM
asmodai
Indian music.
2006-04-14 10438, 2006
10:15 AM
asmodai
Specifically, music from their movies.
2006-04-14 10446, 2006
10:17 AM
Nyght
Got it, was thinking like, Robbie Robertson, but I'm not sure that would be classified bollywood at all
2006-04-14 10429, 2006
10:18 AM
lindestinel joined the channel
2006-04-14 10403, 2006
10:20 AM
asmodai
Nope.
2006-04-14 10414, 2006
10:20 AM
asmodai
Udit Narayan, Asha Bhosle, etc
2006-04-14 10441, 2006
10:20 AM
asmodai
2006-04-14 10448, 2006
10:20 AM
asmodai
AFAIK this should be various artists
2006-04-14 10453, 2006
10:20 AM
asmodai
*sighs*
2006-04-14 10456, 2006
10:20 AM
asmodai goes to adjust
2006-04-14 10423, 2006
10:21 AM
Nyght
I would imagine so.. good luck!
2006-04-14 10426, 2006
10:21 AM
asmodai
Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge is definitely no artist.
2006-04-14 10430, 2006
10:21 AM
Nyght
Looks sorta nightmarish
2006-04-14 10446, 2006
10:21 AM
asmodai
Nyght: Easier after the Japanese albums :D
2006-04-14 10457, 2006
10:21 AM
asmodai
And I'm happy 't isn't in Hindi
2006-04-14 10406, 2006
10:22 AM
asmodai
I am not *that* fluent in reading/writing it
2006-04-14 10421, 2006
10:24 AM
nikki_ wishes we had some indian scripts in the db
2006-04-14 10447, 2006
10:24 AM
nikki_
we've got arabic now though!
2006-04-14 10404, 2006
10:25 AM
nikki_
plenty of hebrew, greek, cyrillic, chinese, japanese, korean...
2006-04-14 10424, 2006
10:25 AM
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2006-04-14 10406, 2006
10:26 AM
asmodai
Nice to see we're expanding.
2006-04-14 10418, 2006
10:26 AM
asmodai
That's the problem with making the sorting names transliterated btw
2006-04-14 10428, 2006
10:26 AM
asmodai
for a number of languages there's multiple transliteration schemes
2006-04-14 10438, 2006
10:26 AM
asmodai
secondly, you mess up sorting/collation order of unicode
2006-04-14 10427, 2006
10:28 AM
nikki_ knows, but we're not smart enough to handle everythin
2006-04-14 10428, 2006
10:28 AM
nikki_
g
2006-04-14 10434, 2006
10:28 AM
Nyght
I guess eventually you get used to it?
2006-04-14 10437, 2006
10:28 AM
asmodai
We're not?
2006-04-14 10444, 2006
10:28 AM
nikki_
mb isn't
2006-04-14 10459, 2006
10:28 AM
asmodai
One of the things I am working on at the moment is computational linguistics :)
2006-04-14 10407, 2006
10:29 AM
asmodai
morphology of Japanese for one
2006-04-14 10429, 2006
10:29 AM
nikki_
if we used unicode's sorting order, people would complain that accents don't sort under their unaccented character
2006-04-14 10447, 2006
10:29 AM
asmodai
nikki_: That's entire language dependent anyway.
2006-04-14 10454, 2006
10:29 AM
nikki_
exactly
2006-04-14 10410, 2006
10:30 AM
nikki_
right now we're using something resembling english
2006-04-14 10412, 2006
10:30 AM
nikki_
sort of.
2006-04-14 10415, 2006
10:30 AM
asmodai
germans sort ringel-s (ss) after s, whereas norwegians sort ae after z IIRC
2006-04-14 10422, 2006
10:30 AM
nikki_
yup
2006-04-14 10425, 2006
10:31 AM
Nyght
eeks
2006-04-14 10427, 2006
10:31 AM
nikki_
and japanese goes a i u e o and we go a b c d e and russian goes a b v g d
2006-04-14 10443, 2006
10:31 AM
nikki_
and I can't even remember korean
2006-04-14 10451, 2006
10:31 AM
asmodai
hangul is radically different ;)
2006-04-14 10452, 2006
10:31 AM
nikki_
I know I learnt it once
2006-04-14 10458, 2006
10:31 AM
asmodai
Nyght: Welcome to the world. :)
2006-04-14 10408, 2006
10:32 AM
nikki_
hangul is easy enough
2006-04-14 10412, 2006
10:32 AM
asmodai
Sure.
2006-04-14 10413, 2006
10:32 AM
nikki_
but I always mix up a and eo
2006-04-14 10426, 2006
10:32 AM
asmodai
Most Koreans don't even know hanja anymore anyway ;)
2006-04-14 10435, 2006
10:32 AM
nikki_ thought they knew some
2006-04-14 10438, 2006
10:32 AM
Nyght
LOL my husband just got back from S. Korea, I'll have to look at his book of Korean
2006-04-14 10444, 2006
10:32 AM
nikki_
like days of the week
2006-04-14 10402, 2006
10:33 AM
asmodai
nikki_: Less and less.
2006-04-14 10407, 2006
10:33 AM
asmodai
Some might know 2000 still
2006-04-14 10413, 2006
10:33 AM
asmodai
others might not get past 10
2006-04-14 10424, 2006
10:33 AM
asmodai
Really depends on their upbringing and education.
2006-04-14 10434, 2006
10:33 AM
nikki_
hmm.
2006-04-14 10401, 2006
10:34 AM
nikki_
but still, I can't remember how hangul sorts
2006-04-14 10411, 2006
10:34 AM
asmodai
according to radical for all I know
2006-04-14 10415, 2006
10:34 AM
asmodai
errr
2006-04-14 10416, 2006
10:34 AM
asmodai
nevermind
2006-04-14 10425, 2006
10:34 AM
nikki_
no
2006-04-14 10436, 2006
10:34 AM
nikki_
there's an order for the jamo, but I don't remember it :)
2006-04-14 10447, 2006
10:34 AM
nikki_
and north and south korea use a different order
2006-04-14 10405, 2006
10:35 AM
asmodai
this might be it:
2006-04-14 10414, 2006
10:35 AM
asmodai
g gg n d dd r m b bb s ss a ae
2006-04-14 10427, 2006
10:35 AM
asmodai
etc
2006-04-14 10439, 2006
10:35 AM
nikki_
2006-04-14 10400, 2006
10:36 AM
Nyght
everything at the touch of a weblink. :)
2006-04-14 10422, 2006
10:37 AM
nikki_
quite a few thai and one armenian (my fault)
2006-04-14 10430, 2006
10:40 AM
asmodai
nikki_: eh?
2006-04-14 10442, 2006
10:40 AM
nikki_ forgot those in her list of the scripts we've got
2006-04-14 10426, 2006
10:41 AM
asmodai
hungarian? czechian?
2006-04-14 10431, 2006
10:41 AM
nikki_
they use latin
2006-04-14 10444, 2006
10:41 AM
asmodai
For various definition of latin.
2006-04-14 10457, 2006
10:41 AM
nikki_
er
2006-04-14 10400, 2006
10:42 AM
nikki_
how is it not?
2006-04-14 10414, 2006
10:42 AM
asmodai
latin has no accents for example?
2006-04-14 10426, 2006
10:42 AM
asmodai
Pedantically latin would have even less than 26 characters ;)
2006-04-14 10445, 2006
10:42 AM
asmodai
and latin is normally 7 bit encoded.
2006-04-14 10453, 2006
10:42 AM
asmodai
Hence the iso-8859 encodings.
2006-04-14 10458, 2006
10:42 AM
nikki_
it's still the latin script
2006-04-14 10413, 2006
10:43 AM
nikki_
whether or not it's identical to the latin alphabet
2006-04-14 10439, 2006
10:43 AM
asmodai
Mmm, fair enough.
2006-04-14 10452, 2006
10:44 AM
nikki_
well, spanish, czech and hungarian all use á, they're not different scripts
2006-04-14 10457, 2006
10:45 AM
nikki_
and if you couldn't invent new letters or modify existing ones, you'd end up saying most languages use their own script
2006-04-14 10431, 2006
10:47 AM
asmodai
What do with do if an artist is hanja and their album's song titles are in English?
2006-04-14 10439, 2006
10:47 AM
asmodai
language is set for their album?
2006-04-14 10452, 2006
10:47 AM
nikki_
use the album song titles
2006-04-14 10458, 2006
10:47 AM
asmodai
Right-o
2006-04-14 10423, 2006
10:48 AM
nikki_
picard can use the sortname for a latin version of the name anyway
2006-04-14 10425, 2006
10:48 AM
asmodai
peculiar:
2006-04-14 10426, 2006
10:48 AM
asmodai
2006-04-14 10429, 2006
10:48 AM
nikki_
which artist uses hanja anyway?
2006-04-14 10430, 2006
10:48 AM
asmodai
2006-04-14 10445, 2006
10:48 AM
nikki_
oh
2006-04-14 10446, 2006
10:48 AM
asmodai
Why is that featured artist different
2006-04-14 10449, 2006
10:48 AM
asmodai
of song 1
2006-04-14 10410, 2006
10:49 AM
nikki_
I was hoping for a korean artist 'cause hanja is korean... :/
2006-04-14 10417, 2006
10:49 AM
asmodai
't is korean?
2006-04-14 10427, 2006
10:49 AM
asmodai
cheon sang ji hee
2006-04-14 10400, 2006
10:50 AM
nikki_
google brings up plenty of chinese pages
2006-04-14 10447, 2006
10:53 AM
asmodai
mmm
2006-04-14 10453, 2006
10:53 AM
asmodai
2006-04-14 10413, 2006
10:54 AM
asmodai
Seems the Japanese and Korean one have indeed different featured artists
2006-04-14 10420, 2006
10:54 AM
asmodai
But what about the artist name?
2006-04-14 10435, 2006
10:54 AM
asmodai
They list, on the korean site, jamo with hanja in between parentheses
2006-04-14 10444, 2006
11:00 AM
timo
timo is now known as timo-
2006-04-14 10433, 2006
11:01 AM
asmodai
duh
2006-04-14 10456, 2006
11:01 AM
asmodai
Cheon sang ji hee in korean, tenjochiki in Japanese, Tian Shang Zhi Xi in Chinese
2006-04-14 10401, 2006
11:02 AM
asmodai
*sigh*
2006-04-14 10406, 2006
11:02 AM
asmodai aliases
2006-04-14 10455, 2006
11:09 AM
Mitsurugi joined the channel
2006-04-14 10415, 2006
11:10 AM
Mitsurugi has left the channel
2006-04-14 10427, 2006
11:15 AM
asmodai
Funny name for a record company: SM Entertainment
2006-04-14 10410, 2006
11:17 AM
Mudcrow
lots of record labels have strange/weird/stupid names
2006-04-14 10431, 2006
11:17 AM
Mudcrow
Very Fucking Bad Records is a favourite of mine :)
2006-04-14 10432, 2006
11:18 AM
asmodai
rofl
2006-04-14 10442, 2006
11:18 AM
asmodai
I still remember a house label here: Hellraiser Records.
2006-04-14 10443, 2006
11:18 AM
Nyght
Mudcrow: THat's a great label!
2006-04-14 10445, 2006
11:19 AM
Mudcrow
loads of indie punk record labels have silly names and silly catalogue numbers too
2006-04-14 10403, 2006
11:20 AM
asmodai
It's to make our life easier
2006-04-14 10406, 2006
11:23 AM
Nyght
or at least to give us a chuckle along the way. :)
2006-04-14 10406, 2006
11:25 AM
asmodai goes to clean up the dilwale dulhani le jayenge albums
2006-04-14 10411, 2006
11:26 AM
asmodai
ARGH
2006-04-14 10425, 2006
11:26 AM
asmodai
ok, say an album's music is written by one person
2006-04-14 10430, 2006
11:26 AM
asmodai
and are sung by all other people?
2006-04-14 10437, 2006
11:26 AM
Mudcrow
Chaos UK were on AARGH records :)
2006-04-14 10432, 2006
11:27 AM
asmodai
heh
2006-04-14 10407, 2006
11:28 AM
Mudcrow
depends who the album is credited to asmodai, if its credited to the composer, then add it as a muliple artist with the album credited to the composer, otherwise its a Various Artists release
2006-04-14 10445, 2006
11:29 AM
Mudcrow
2006-04-14 10415, 2006
11:30 AM
asmodai
ok, music by one guy, lyrics by another, and all songs sung by yet other people
2006-04-14 10401, 2006
11:31 AM
Mudcrow
what is this album?
2006-04-14 10423, 2006
11:31 AM
asmodai
Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge.
2006-04-14 10433, 2006
11:31 AM
asmodai
And this kind of setup is quite typical for indian movie soundtracks
2006-04-14 10442, 2006
11:31 AM
Mudcrow
ah a soundtrack
2006-04-14 10435, 2006
11:32 AM
asmodai
2006-04-14 10400, 2006
11:33 AM
Nyght
I would say credit it to the composer and lyracist, but.. I'm a newb.. so. ;)
2006-04-14 10444, 2006
11:33 AM
Mudcrow
can you find a link for that album anywhere? or a link that includes credits for the film?
2006-04-14 10458, 2006
11:33 AM
asmodai
Sure.
2006-04-14 10421, 2006
11:34 AM
Mudcrow
you need to find who the musical score for the film is credited to
2006-04-14 10422, 2006
11:34 AM
asmodai
2006-04-14 10436, 2006
11:34 AM
asmodai
Lyrics : Anand Bakshi
2006-04-14 10453, 2006
11:34 AM
asmodai
2006-04-14 10446, 2006
11:36 AM
Mudcrow
I would credit it to Jatin Lalit, with an AR set to Anand Bakshi for the lyrics
2006-04-14 10457, 2006
11:36 AM
asmodai
And for the tracks?
2006-04-14 10405, 2006
11:38 AM
Mudcrow
I would set them as AR links, as some are credited as artist and chorus
2006-04-14 10414, 2006
11:39 AM
Mudcrow
musical soundtracks are a pin in the arse, as you could end up with huge collaboration artists
2006-04-14 10407, 2006
11:40 AM
asmodai
Lovely :D
2006-04-14 10450, 2006
11:41 AM
asmodai
ARGH
2006-04-14 10401, 2006
11:42 AM
asmodai
