#musicbrainz

hello, any geniuses for compiling libtunepimp 0.3 ?

hello, any geniuses for compiling libtunepimp 0.3 ?

why not use libtunepimp 0.4?

bc I need 0.3 for amarok

ah

damn thing won't compile

cannot figure out the error message

error while ./configure or compilation?

upon compilation

hmm

make[3]: *** [filelookup.lo] Error 1

i dunno

can you paste more lines for example at pastebin.com ?

"make[3]: *** [filelookup.lo] Error 1" is not very useful :)

fair enought

enough

paster

pasted now luks

hm, do you have libmusicbrainz installed?

yup

2.0.2

sorry, 2.1.2

good night everyone

you also need a develompent version

libmusicbrainz-dev if you are on debian

Grr, I want an extra notification for all non-english freedb-imports which says that "make sure the album you are entering has (a) proper language capitalization (b) proper script (ie. proper characters) in the track names!"

yah, I had the devel version too!

have

wondering if the libmusicbrainz version is too high for libtunepimp 0.3

i'd say the other way round

too old libmb

really?

are you really sure you have 2.1.2?

libmusicbrainz-devel-2.1.2-0.2.fc3.kde

libmusicbrainz-2.1.2-0.2.fc3.kde

hmm, release date stuff was added in 2.1.0

maybe delete the rpm and compile from source?

yes, i think that would be the best

do I need to compile libmusicbrainz and then devel?

can you please send me /usr/include/musicbrainz/queries.h ?

or will the single package work ok for me?

or copy&paste is to pastebin.com

hang on a sec, will do!

anyway, it looks like a broken rpm package. so just download http://ftp.musicbrainz.org/pub/musicbrainz/libm... and compile it

here is the queries.h

will try the tar.gz package

appreciate the suggestions

so the politics feature on last.fm groups was removed..

Too many bugs was the given reason.

and noone wanted to take the trouble fixing them :)

I saw a few of the bugs in action before. And the devs have too much on their plate to deal with them for now, I'd imagine.

well fair enough

Even better, now noone can take over my 4 groups. That's great for us evil dictators. :-P

Err, last.fm is suggesting white power music to me

sounds like you're a racist.

the pony doesn't lie.

tags do absolutly not fit to my style and seems to have no songs :)

it used to give me really awful suggestions when it was still very new

i think about two years ago

Heh, it mostly suggests artists that are low on my already-listened-to list seeing as I already have listened to the majority of poodle rock. :-P

if it suggests britney to you one day you could begin to worry

It suggested Korn to me once. Caused extreme vomiting...

it's probably suggested korn to me, also

which is even more strange, considering what i listen to

for the most part, anyway

Okay, I'm planning on bringing this up for discussion on one of the hundred MB lists. It concerns two of the issues I've found with the current voting situation... 1) Major drop in people voting, and 2) how 2 yes-votes being required to override 1 no-vote is detrimental to MB.

I've tried to write this in a non-"inflammatory" way, presenting only the general ideas as I see them. Despite recent "events" that have involved me, nothing in this is meant to single out any individual moderator. Pretty much everything I've written was backed up with votes done by several moderators, not just one. Where I only saw one moderator voting a certain way, I left it out as it's not "wide-spread".

I'm posting it here for thoughts, ways to re-word it should anything sound too inflammatory, etc. before taking it to the list.

If anyone's got a moment to read it and give some thoughts. please do. Particularly on wording. The idea is to start a discussion on the issues, not start a flame-war. Ideas on rewording to avoid a flame-war, should I not be seeing something, are definitely welcome.

i think concrete stats would help your case, if you can find them

i'd be interested in seeing how many failed mods end up being resubmitted

er, what percentage of, i mean

also, i expect the fall in voting is due to the removal of the random inline vote iframe by default

i think it was removed because of random no votes ;)

but there was a long thread about it, if i remember correctly

Mmm, that's the reason I gave. And yeah, I'm pretty sure that's why it was removed. Just bringing up it's been detrimental in a "different" way.

how do you list mods for a deleted artist?

might be worth mentioning something about it, just to avoid tangents related to that

As for concrete stats, I wish I could. I don't really have the ability to do that. I mean, it's based on just looking over old (past few months) add mods, and how frequently I saw the same situation occuring.

just on wording, i don't think it's inflamatory

i don't agree with many points, but that's not what you were asking for right now

I don't think I saw enough "deleted artist" issues to even mention it.

Yeah, I don't expect agreement. Just looking to start discussion.

I can toss in a line about "deleted artist" being a mostly non-issue if it should be mentioned. I believe it's a rare occurance though.

i only vote on artists i listen to, unless i'm really bored at work and then i'll start looking at add track, and remove mods

i wonder if other people are doing the same thing

do no-voters really rarely not fix their votes when it's pointed out an entry is correct?

Mmm. Actually, that may be another reason for low voting. Obscure artists is where most of the problems occur.

also, do you know if an email address is required to vote no?

i think that might be a good idea

Yeah. Whether it's just that they ignore the e-mail (or e-mails are sent to a junk account), or maybe they're offline. Who knows... but I rarely saw a vote change (a few active moderators excluded).

I'm for verified e-mail for anything that causes MB change, mod or vote.

yeah

i am, too

Dunno if it's required for a no-vote. It's supposed to be required for adding albums, but there's a bug there that allows it without e-mail.

Seen no-votes solely because the submittor didn't have an e-mail address. I didn't include that in the list because if the bug is fixed, it won't be an issue.

And it was rare.

i agree with the points about style

unless it's a real trainwreck

like a various artists disaster

or non-va when it ought to be

Trainwrecks (VA submitted as one artist) are obvious no's. Agreed.

something that'd take more than a couple of minutes max to fix

i don't agree with the proof point

but i don't have time now to discuss it, because i need to get ready to go to work

but when you post it, i'll try to post something coherent

And the nasty submissions that normally come with hip-hop-vs-(c)rap with fifty million "featured artists" aren't worth the effort most of the time

Mmm, just wanting to make sure I'm clear and "non-inflammatory" at this point. Thanks for the input.

i think you are

well, just one suggestion, instead of imperatives, maybe employ suggestions

there's a lot of 'need' in there :)

I have needs, you know. ;-) I'll look it over.

well, it doesn't bother me, but maybe it'd rub some people the wrong way

but then again, i might just be looking too hard

Hehe, considering recent "events", I'd expect most in here to be looking too hard. Thus the perfect place to test it. :-P

did you see what happened to that mod we had the discussion on?

the guy deleted it

with two yes votes

i don't get it

i added it back in, but really, what the hell

we decide it's good, then he deletes it

i hope we didn't scare him off

Mmm, he e-mailed me after he deleted it. Confused newbie who thought the mod notes were directed at him. And yeah, he got scared off. I tried to explain the situation to him, but he didn't respond to that.

oh :\

i was surprised you found the info so easily

i did spent a minute or two looking for it and came up empty

spend

i'd never seen cduniverse, i don't think

but it's added to my "list of places to check stuff"