#musicbrainz

/

      • hawke_
        Kerensky97: the problem with the voting though, is it never achieves anything
      • 2006-12-21 35538, 2006

      • Earthpig
        kerensky: autoedits never get voted
      • 2006-12-21 35542, 2006

      • hawke_
        someone votes one way, enough agree and it flips...
      • 2006-12-21 35550, 2006

      • hawke_
        then someone votes the other way and it flips back.
      • 2006-12-21 35509, 2006

      • hawke_
        and so on, until one side gets bored with it.
      • 2006-12-21 35504, 2006

      • hawke_
        the ideal would be to have something like a "permavote" where each person has their preferred view (which could change at any time), and the most popular view wins.
      • 2006-12-21 35507, 2006

      • Kerensky97
        Technically if enough people we involved you'd get more than a 50/50 split. And there might actually be locking in the future to limit those flips.
      • 2006-12-21 35514, 2006

      • Kerensky97
        ...yeah
      • 2006-12-21 35521, 2006

      • hawke_
        ...hence my idea. :-)
      • 2006-12-21 35500, 2006

      • Kerensky97
      • 2006-12-21 35516, 2006

      • Kerensky97
        read "Release locking & Voting improvements:"
      • 2006-12-21 35550, 2006

      • hawke_
        yes, I think that will help a lot.
      • 2006-12-21 35559, 2006

      • warp pops in
      • 2006-12-21 35519, 2006

      • ruaok waves at warp
      • 2006-12-21 35533, 2006

      • warp
        hawke_: i think this comes down to a user preference. on one hand you have the people who want tracks to be consistent in caps, and across albums, etc..
      • 2006-12-21 35503, 2006

      • hawke_
        warp: right.
      • 2006-12-21 35509, 2006

      • warp
        hawke_: on the other hand you have the people who want whatever is on the jewel case, even if that differs between releases, etc..
      • 2006-12-21 35519, 2006

      • hawke_
        warp: I belong to the latter camp
      • 2006-12-21 35539, 2006

      • warp
        hawke_: i think MB will eventually need a user preference, and have both in the DB. because both camps have a fair amount of followers :)
      • 2006-12-21 35504, 2006

      • hawke_
        I think if you're going to have both in the DB, it would be just as easy to have unlimited options in the DB.
      • 2006-12-21 35529, 2006

      • warp
        but then when you look up the info, which one do you got to see of those?
      • 2006-12-21 35539, 2006

      • hawke_
        and then the voting becomes instead of "do you want to change this to that?", "would you prefer this view, that view, or the other view"
      • 2006-12-21 35547, 2006

      • Kerensky97
        And for companies like last.fm which gets preference?
      • 2006-12-21 35502, 2006

      • hawke_
        I would think the most popular would be the default preferred
      • 2006-12-21 35541, 2006

      • warp
        Kerensky97: the default preference could easily set to whichever camp has a bigger percentage of users, or something like that ;)
      • 2006-12-21 35521, 2006

      • warp
        anyway, the specific solution is not really that interesting to me yet
      • 2006-12-21 35543, 2006

      • rpedro__
        rpedro__ is now known as rpedro
      • 2006-12-21 35507, 2006

      • warp
        but i would like MB developers/users in general be aware of the problem, and hopefully at some point we can decide if a solution to it is needed, and if so, what the best solution would be.
      • 2006-12-21 35551, 2006

      • warp
        note that for e.g. japanese releases, because of their peculiar usage of english, the defacto standard is use whatever is on the cover. the rest of MB seems to mostly be the other camp (with the current style guidelines, or atleast the interpretation of them by the mods).
      • 2006-12-21 35512, 2006

      • hawke_
        nod.
      • 2006-12-21 35529, 2006

      • warp
        hawke_: have you considered listening to only asian music? ;)
      • 2006-12-21 35534, 2006

      • catgroove
        hi
      • 2006-12-21 35537, 2006

      • hawke_
        lol
      • 2006-12-21 35557, 2006

      • Kerensky97
        Me and mo were just talking about japaense cap rules in an edit.
      • 2006-12-21 35506, 2006

      • catgroove
        ehh. we where?
      • 2006-12-21 35514, 2006

      • warp
        Kerensky97: which edit? can i play?
      • 2006-12-21 35519, 2006

      • catgroove
        eeek
      • 2006-12-21 35522, 2006

      • catgroove
        :)
      • 2006-12-21 35524, 2006

      • Kerensky97
        actually I think it was translation vs transliteration but it's all the same... undefined.
      • 2006-12-21 35533, 2006

      • catgroove
        I don't remember
      • 2006-12-21 35538, 2006

      • Kerensky97
        let me see if I can find it.
      • 2006-12-21 35548, 2006

      • catgroove
        I have teh curazy shåppin' tomnorow
      • 2006-12-21 35504, 2006

      • catgroove
        gotta get up at 8
      • 2006-12-21 35509, 2006

      • catgroove
        so must go to bed now
      • 2006-12-21 35516, 2006

      • catgroove
        good night all
      • 2006-12-21 35521, 2006

      • warp
        goodnight mo
      • 2006-12-21 35528, 2006

      • ruaok
        natta mo
      • 2006-12-21 35551, 2006

      • Kerensky97
        good night mo
      • 2006-12-21 35510, 2006

      • catgroove has a bug, but doesn't ha e the energy to make the bugreport until *after* jul
      • 2006-12-21 35517, 2006

      • catgroove
        is that ok?
      • 2006-12-21 35523, 2006

      • catgroove
        its not vital
      • 2006-12-21 35523, 2006

      • Kerensky97
      • 2006-12-21 35546, 2006

      • warp
        Kerensky97: meh.. i'm too hasty. anyway, notes added.
      • 2006-12-21 35541, 2006

      • catgroove
        altoa7me also
      • 2006-12-21 35558, 2006

      • catgroove also
      • 2006-12-21 35503, 2006

      • catgroove
        but, bed
      • 2006-12-21 35525, 2006

      • Kerensky97
        That's why I put it to vote, I figured there would be many opinions. And there's no guideline.
      • 2006-12-21 35529, 2006

      • catgroove
        oyanattanacht
      • 2006-12-21 35544, 2006

      • Kerensky97
        For sure this time? :)
      • 2006-12-21 35547, 2006

      • catgroove
        yes
      • 2006-12-21 35554, 2006

      • catgroove
        I want ru to say nite also :P
      • 2006-12-21 35501, 2006

      • warp
        Kerensky97: i don't really care about transliterations and translations much, so either way is fine with me.
      • 2006-12-21 35501, 2006

      • catgroove
        bah I am stupid
      • 2006-12-21 35503, 2006

      • catgroove
        he did already
      • 2006-12-21 35512, 2006

      • catgroove
        natta all
      • 2006-12-21 35515, 2006

      • catgroove
        catgroove is now known as nightgroove
      • 2006-12-21 35525, 2006

      • warp
        i tag my files whichever they're called by the artists, wether I can read the pretty squiggles or not.
      • 2006-12-21 35553, 2006

      • nightgroove has to do latinized ,as he has wonky filesystem that is nix unicode
      • 2006-12-21 35517, 2006

      • nightgroove so therefore he likes to have the best simmilar to the original japanese possilbe
      • 2006-12-21 35536, 2006

      • nightgroove als omust admit that if transliterated plain, its fun to learn the kana
      • 2006-12-21 35544, 2006

      • warp
        nightgroove: you could keep the filenames transliterated and the tags in kana
      • 2006-12-21 35559, 2006

      • nightgroove
        my entire OS does not do unicode
      • 2006-12-21 35506, 2006

      • nightgroove
        only browser and the irc thing
      • 2006-12-21 35514, 2006

      • nightgroove
        can do unicode
      • 2006-12-21 35515, 2006

      • warp
        ah, too bad.
      • 2006-12-21 35523, 2006

      • nightgroove
        the other machine
      • 2006-12-21 35528, 2006

      • nightgroove
        can do something
      • 2006-12-21 35529, 2006

      • Kerensky97
        My problem is that I can't type kana to search for the song I want.
      • 2006-12-21 35532, 2006

      • warp
        i would have expected something like foobar would be able to cope if the browser can.
      • 2006-12-21 35539, 2006

      • Kerensky97
        I need a dual keayboard.
      • 2006-12-21 35549, 2006

      • nightgroove
        to be honest I haven't tested unicode tags with foobar
      • 2006-12-21 35551, 2006

      • Kerensky97
        And to learn japanese enough to use it.
      • 2006-12-21 35552, 2006

      • nightgroove
        remind me tomorrow
      • 2006-12-21 35504, 2006

      • warp
        Kerensky97: i tend to copy paste from stuff i googled
      • 2006-12-21 35549, 2006

      • nightgroove
        natta! dammit! you're keepignm e up :P
      • 2006-12-21 35516, 2006

      • warp
        someone please kickban mo to help him get some sleep.
      • 2006-12-21 35533, 2006

      • nightgroove
        nei!
      • 2006-12-21 35537, 2006

      • nightgroove går i seng
      • 2006-12-21 35540, 2006

      • warp
        :P
      • 2006-12-21 35547, 2006

      • dseomn joined the channel
      • 2006-12-21 35558, 2006

      • MrQwerty` joined the channel
      • 2006-12-21 35528, 2006

      • fgiasson_ joined the channel
      • 2006-12-21 35512, 2006

      • fgiasson has quit
      • 2006-12-21 35554, 2006

      • fgiasson joined the channel
      • 2006-12-21 35558, 2006

      • MrQwerty has quit
      • 2006-12-21 35512, 2006

      • MrQwerty joined the channel
      • 2006-12-21 35529, 2006

      • MrQwerty` has quit
      • 2006-12-21 35554, 2006

      • ruaok
        warp: we changed the fix for the escaping HTML in annotations.
      • 2006-12-21 35511, 2006

      • ruaok
        I saw you testing those a bit -- can you please take another look to make sure this fix holds?
      • 2006-12-21 35518, 2006

      • ruaok
        (its live on the main server)
      • 2006-12-21 35502, 2006

      • warp
        tommorrow
      • 2006-12-21 35517, 2006

      • warp
        irc is evil, i've been trying to go to bed for atleast an hour now :)
      • 2006-12-21 35526, 2006

      • warp
        thanks for fixing, goodnight!
      • 2006-12-21 35536, 2006

      • fgiasson_ has quit
      • 2006-12-21 35517, 2006

      • cooperaa has quit
      • 2006-12-21 35546, 2006

      • ruaok
        :-0
      • 2006-12-21 35522, 2006

      • mustaqila has quit
      • 2006-12-21 35549, 2006

      • mustaqila joined the channel
      • 2006-12-21 35516, 2006

      • Aankhen`` joined the channel
      • 2006-12-21 35548, 2006

      • mustaqila
        Moooooooooooooooooooooose
      • 2006-12-21 35555, 2006

      • ruaok
        moooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooOooooooOoOOOooooOOOOooOOoOos!
      • 2006-12-21 35533, 2006

      • Kerensky97 has left the channel
      • 2006-12-21 35511, 2006

      • mustaqila
        :D
      • 2006-12-21 35527, 2006

      • mustaqila_ joined the channel
      • 2006-12-21 35553, 2006

      • futurist joined the channel
      • 2006-12-21 35534, 2006

      • futurist has left the channel
      • 2006-12-21 35502, 2006

      • Rondom has quit
      • 2006-12-21 35523, 2006

      • mustaqila has quit