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      • warp
        no need to do more :)

        • 2006-12-01 33517, 2006

      • warp
        which picard are you using?

        • 2006-12-01 33534, 2006

      • warp
        i have something which needs tagging which is an amazing amount of hassle with my old one..

        • 2006-12-01 33540, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        wx72.

        • 2006-12-01 33552, 2006

      • warp
        thinking about checking out picardqt, but that looks like quite a challenge.

        • 2006-12-01 33553, 2006

      • warp
        i'm tagging something which has 100 tracks, and i need to trag each of them to the right spot on the album 1 by 1 :(

        • 2006-12-01 33504, 2006

      • warp
        s/trag/drag/

        • 2006-12-01 33523, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        Turn down the fussiness enough and it'll do it just on track number.

        • 2006-12-01 33535, 2006

      • warp
        oh, how? where?

        • 2006-12-01 33538, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        So long as you're going to check them by hand anyway, it doesn't matter, and it beats the crap out of dragging.

        • 2006-12-01 33551, 2006

      • warp
        hm.. it gets the track number wrong though.

        • 2006-12-01 33552, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        Options, general, first percentage.

        • 2006-12-01 33557, 2006

      • warp
        probably have to rename them too.

        • 2006-12-01 33556, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        They've got no tags at all?

        • 2006-12-01 33525, 2006

      • warp
        not anymore.

        • 2006-12-01 33514, 2006

      • warp
        picard, in my experience, doesn't reliable wipe them when asked to.

        • 2006-12-01 33544, 2006

      • warp
        (and they were confusing some other tagger, so i figured the tags were broken :)

        • 2006-12-01 33556, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        Can't say I've ever used it for that.

        • 2006-12-01 33548, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        That's the 220 in MB tagged.

        • 2006-12-01 33557, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        12 mins, not too bad.

        • 2006-12-01 33533, 2006

      • warp
        ok, this will take some time for picard to move to 'unclustered'

        • 2006-12-01 33542, 2006

      • Kerensky97
        The MusicIP Mixer can tag tracks based off the PUID, it's not quite as accurate as MB but it might be good to get you in the right direction and then run them through Picard to get everything accurate.

        • 2006-12-01 33502, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        Heh, it never worked for me, Kerensky97. :)

        • 2006-12-01 33513, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        "No matches found!"

        • 2006-12-01 33517, 2006

      • warp
        (110 tracks of about 28mb (mp3) each, on a celeron 466mhz)

        • 2006-12-01 33532, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        Eeew, mp3!

        • 2006-12-01 33504, 2006

      • warp
        these are the only ones available, possibly the only ones which exist.

        • 2006-12-01 33533, 2006

      • warp
        FauxFaux: http://musicbrainz.org/album/a56a001a-2580-4d3d-8…

        • 2006-12-01 33519, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        Ah, free downloads. :)

        • 2006-12-01 33528, 2006

      • horar joined the channel

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      • warp
        downloads often are.

        • 2006-12-01 33507, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        Sorry, *legal free downloads. :p

        • 2006-12-01 33525, 2006

      • warp
        for me, downloads often are :)

        • 2006-12-01 33555, 2006

      • warp
        ok.. this didn't work.

        • 2006-12-01 33543, 2006

      • warp
        67.mp3 is on track 1, 77.mp3 is on track 4. etc...

        • 2006-12-01 33506, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        :(

        • 2006-12-01 33518, 2006

      • warp
        let's see what happens if i add some tags.

        • 2006-12-01 33523, 2006

      • warp
        (manually)

        • 2006-12-01 33543, 2006

      • warp
        if only i had a decent manual tagger

        • 2006-12-01 33552, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        Foobar!

        • 2006-12-01 33555, 2006

      • warp
        audio tagtool can't read the tags picard saves on these files.

        • 2006-12-01 33500, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        Assuming you don't mind losing some of the existing tags.

        • 2006-12-01 33513, 2006

      • warp
        i don't have a windows machine near withoun a lengthy reboot and much fussing about to get at those files.

        • 2006-12-01 33520, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        Ah. :/

        • 2006-12-01 33533, 2006

      • warp
        no, i don't mind losing tags, picard should fix them.

        • 2006-12-01 33544, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        http://faux.no-ip.biz/svn/tagdump/ + perl. ;)

        • 2006-12-01 33502, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        Although I can't imagine compiling boost is high up your list of priorities.

        • 2006-12-01 33506, 2006

      • warp
        let's see what happens if i just clear them with this tagger, and let it write them again.

        • 2006-12-01 33506, 2006

      • Muz
        Now with 70% more ponies!!

        • 2006-12-01 33510, 2006

      • Muz
        NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

        • 2006-12-01 33513, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        PONIES!! :D

        • 2006-12-01 33523, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        XSLT is a wonderful thing.

        • 2006-12-01 33559, 2006

      • warp
        ok, this seems to help.

        • 2006-12-01 33516, 2006

      • SoothingR has quit

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      • warp has only used xslt at work.

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      • timo- has quit

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      • timo joined the channel

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      • timo
        timo is now known as timo-

        • 2006-12-01 33501, 2006

      • warp makes a stupid mistake.

        • 2006-12-01 33543, 2006

      • FauxFaux really dislikes the tagging on http://musicbrainz.org/album/e0cb4433-6510-40a6-aa10-a039391b2fd1.html but isn't classical at all, anyone have even the slighteste interest in classical stuff?

        • 2006-12-01 33525, 2006

      • warp
        vanessa mae :S

        • 2006-12-01 33544, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        Look at the track names, they need at least a hyphen in there or something. :)

        • 2006-12-01 33548, 2006

      • Muz
        Ponies :S

        • 2006-12-01 33520, 2006

      • warp
        FauxFaux: i wouldn't know.

        • 2006-12-01 33511, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        We need a "flag as suck" button.

        • 2006-12-01 33531, 2006

      • warp
        FauxFaux: http://www.vanessamaeonline.com/discogr/class1.ht…

        • 2006-12-01 33551, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        That's better, but doesn't feel very musicbrainzy.

        • 2006-12-01 33556, 2006

      • warp
        nope.

        • 2006-12-01 33534, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        If it wasn't classical I'd convert it to multiple-artist with it being covered by ms. mae.

        • 2006-12-01 33500, 2006

      • warp
        http://www.vanessamae.com/classic.shtml

        • 2006-12-01 33525, 2006

      • warp
        indeed.

        • 2006-12-01 33555, 2006

      • warp
        you could post it on the forum.

        • 2006-12-01 33503, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        Cunning.

        • 2006-12-01 33513, 2006

      • warp is listening to very intelligent music.

        • 2006-12-01 33511, 2006

      • warp
        ♪ we're driving in your car, we have NEVER gone this far ♫

        • 2006-12-01 33511, 2006

      • FauxFaux wonders how nine out of ten tracks on a cd that's avaliable for free downlaod can have a puid, and the other one doesn't. :/

        • 2006-12-01 33546, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        Hmm, there isn't really a requests section on the forum, warp.

        • 2006-12-01 33557, 2006

      • FauxFaux doesn't feel like reading the entire classical style guide.

        • 2006-12-01 33500, 2006

      • warp
        hm, right.

        • 2006-12-01 33553, 2006

      • warp
        you could certainly ask about it in Style Discussion, but then you'll be expected to do some of the work :)

        • 2006-12-01 33510, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        That's the problem. ;)

        • 2006-12-01 33510, 2006

      • warp
        hey!

        • 2006-12-01 33511, 2006

      • warp
        http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/ClassicalEntriesThatN…

        • 2006-12-01 33548, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        Woot!

        • 2006-12-01 33555, 2006

      • warp checks his untagged dir.

        • 2006-12-01 33522, 2006

      • srotta
        Siin� vaiheessa,

        • 2006-12-01 33500, 2006

      • srotta
        ... right

        • 2006-12-01 33546, 2006

      • warp drags 500 tracks into picard.

        • 2006-12-01 33501, 2006

      • FauxFaux wonders how warp uses oldpicard, anything like http://faux.uwcs.co.uk/picardguide/?

        • 2006-12-01 33513, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        Ignore the PONY PINK arrows, they were only there to teach Muz a lesson.

        • 2006-12-01 33502, 2006

      • warp
        i have to drag within picard itself, i'm not on windows and don't using any gui file manager thing on that old linux box.

        • 2006-12-01 33538, 2006

      • luks has quit

        • 2006-12-01 33549, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        Eeew, linux.

        • 2006-12-01 33516, 2006

      • warp
        yes, i'd like to run picard on os x.

        • 2006-12-01 33552, 2006

      • warp
        but haven't spent more than a few minutes in trying to get picardqt.

        • 2006-12-01 33525, 2006

      • warp
        anyway, there are still quite a few things i need to do which picard cannot do for me.

        • 2006-12-01 33521, 2006

      • warp
        after picard is done tagging, i go in to rename the directory 'CATNO ~ ARTIST - ALBUM (YEAR)'. if there is no catalog # in the annotation on musicbrainz, i have to find it and add it.

        • 2006-12-01 33532, 2006

      • warp
        then move the album over to a sort of quarantine area in my music directory, where it will sit until i've listened to it once or twice to catch obvious ripping/encoding errors, only then it moves into the music dir proper :)

        • 2006-12-01 33528, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        That's about 700 done so far, and I quit. :/

        • 2006-12-01 33508, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        warp: And, wow, that's a far more paranoid sorting schema than me. ;)

        • 2006-12-01 33513, 2006

      • warp
        i have three albums done, and those apparantly had MBIDs, beceause picard found the albums itself.

        • 2006-12-01 33539, 2006

      • FauxFaux just wants http://paste.axpr.net/?show=120849 to work.

        • 2006-12-01 33516, 2006

      • warp has no idea what that does :)

        • 2006-12-01 33541, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        It sorts the playlist by the artist name /unless/ it's a va. release, at which point it sorts it by the release name.

        • 2006-12-01 33504, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        Plus some other things so I can remove cruft.

        • 2006-12-01 33510, 2006

      • warp
        ah, i don't think i have many various artist releases left.

        • 2006-12-01 33527, 2006

      • warp
        most of them have been moved to whoever compiled that collection.

        • 2006-12-01 33543, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        Hmmm.

        • 2006-12-01 33553, 2006

      • warp
        i wonder what could be an easy way to check my music dir for leftover various artists.

        • 2006-12-01 33531, 2006

      • mll has left the channel

        • 2006-12-01 33542, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        Sort the playlist by artist!

        • 2006-12-01 33511, 2006

      • warp
        mpd only stores track artists i think.

        • 2006-12-01 33523, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        Woe.

        • 2006-12-01 33533, 2006

      • luks joined the channel

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      • warp
        gah.. have to add annotation + AR links to each of the seven discs of a release :S

        • 2006-12-01 33506, 2006

      • ruaok joined the channel

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      • warp
        why do i get some weird search page when i try to merge releases? :)

        • 2006-12-01 33521, 2006

      • ruaok
        crappy programming?

        • 2006-12-01 33524, 2006

      • ruaok
        :-)

        • 2006-12-01 33535, 2006

      • warp
        :P

        • 2006-12-01 33508, 2006

      • warp
        i assume this feature mostly works. it's not the first time i merge an album either.

        • 2006-12-01 33523, 2006

      • warp
        just wondering why i can't seem to do it in this particular case.

        • 2006-12-01 33546, 2006

      • warp
        i'm trying to merge http://musicbrainz.org/release/77f838fd-8899-4ab3… into http://musicbrainz.org/release/7a3478dc-91e5-4ece…

        • 2006-12-01 33539, 2006

      • Kerensky97
        http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=6061437 ???

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      • horar has quit

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      • Toran joined the channel

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      • Kerensky97
        Is that the same one? Maybe it went through but didn't redirect you to the right page after the fact.

        • 2006-12-01 33527, 2006

      • warp
        ah, yes.

        • 2006-12-01 33532, 2006

      • warp
        thanks.

        • 2006-12-01 33541, 2006

      • Toran
        japanese words written in english letters) for Japanese stuff, so the titles would be more useful to me? If not, is such a feature in development?

        • 2006-12-01 33552, 2006

      • warp
        some opinions please, if any of you are bored enough to look: http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=6057071

        • 2006-12-01 33547, 2006

      • warp
        Toran: for that reason a lot of releases are in musicbrainz in three different versions, japanese, japanese translated to english, and japanese transliterated to latin script.

        • 2006-12-01 33514, 2006

      • warp
        Toran: you can also somewhere instruct picard to use the sortname for an artist i think, so you also get that in latin.

        • 2006-12-01 33533, 2006

      • Kerensky97
        Yeah it's in options -> Language

        • 2006-12-01 33538, 2006

      • Toran
        Ah, ok, thanks

        • 2006-12-01 33544, 2006

      • Kerensky97
        "Translate to english where possible"

        • 2006-12-01 33514, 2006

      • warp
        Toran: i prefer the pretty japanese squiggles myself, even though i cannot read them.

        • 2006-12-01 33523, 2006

      • Toran
        I used to as wel

        • 2006-12-01 33525, 2006

      • Toran
        *well

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      • Toran
        Then I realized that it was totally useless to me

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      • warp
        it's not to me.

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      • Kerensky97
        Yeah once you get alot they all blend together.

        • 2006-12-01 33500, 2006

      • warp
        i can still copy/paste them in google and get relevant information.

        • 2006-12-01 33518, 2006

      • srotta has quit

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      • warp
        it would be nice if my music player had an romaji engine thingy and you could select between original script vs transliterated with a toggle button :)

        • 2006-12-01 33547, 2006

      • Toran
        Mrg, I'm finding this single in kanji but not in romanji :(

        • 2006-12-01 33549, 2006

      • Kerensky97
        It's be nice if MB had the same feature as well ;)

        • 2006-12-01 33505, 2006

      • Toran
        That is another problem - consistency. Not all of them have multiple language sets

        • 2006-12-01 33506, 2006

      • warp
        Toran: you're free to add it.

        • 2006-12-01 33511, 2006

      • Kerensky97
        Toran: you'll either have to add the romaji yourself or deal with it.