nyght or inhouseuk don't have any Smash Mouth either?
2006-07-01 18245, 2006
inhouseuk
nope
2006-07-01 18234, 2006
teleGUISE
interscope records doesnt even appear to have them listed anymore
2006-07-01 18241, 2006
Nyght
Not that I recall, I'll look after the kids get to bed,
2006-07-01 18203, 2006
teleGUISE
there was real cute ASIN for one of the their releases, every single amazon store showed a totally different listing.. anywhere from it being a single to album
2006-07-01 18231, 2006
teleGUISE
i think France of all places was the only store that had the correct listing
2006-07-01 18253, 2006
Nyght
yummy azon
2006-07-01 18224, 2006
dmp__panda
teleGUISE: must be an incident if .fr had it right
yes especially being it was supposed to be a UK only release
2006-07-01 18259, 2006
lilo
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2006-07-01 18217, 2006
inhouseuk
in general I find .de to be the most accurate
2006-07-01 18210, 2006
teleGUISE
guess it all depends on the release and where it originates.. for this one .de showed the US track listing
2006-07-01 18200, 2006
teleGUISE
UK had a totally borked listing, US showed it as a Single with 4 tracks, CA was consistent actually and showed the same single, Japan showed an 11 track edition that doesnt exist anywhere
2006-07-01 18225, 2006
teleGUISE
.de like said showed the 13 track US and .fr actually had the right 15track
2006-07-01 18203, 2006
inhouseuk sometimes gets the urge to moderate amazon
2006-07-01 18231, 2006
inhouseuk
I see something wrong and I want to fix it!
2006-07-01 18200, 2006
teleGUISE
call me crazy but you would think the ASIN would pull the track list from the same place regardless of store, eh? wouldn't that be the logical thing to do besides being the easiest
2006-07-01 18221, 2006
inhouseuk
amz isn't logical
2006-07-01 18225, 2006
teleGUISE
theres absolutely no reason for them to have seperate entries
2006-07-01 18250, 2006
dmp__panda
well... obviously there are some releases intended for eu and other for us... so I guess they need multiple different tl.
2006-07-01 18256, 2006
teleGUISE
you would think it would save space and make more sense.. i really cannot think of any reason they do it the way they do
2006-07-01 18258, 2006
dmp__panda
some versions
2006-07-01 18208, 2006
dmp__panda
not to say they did it logically though :p
2006-07-01 18209, 2006
teleGUISE
thats what the asin's are for.. you give it a different one
2006-07-01 18225, 2006
teleGUISE
the same ASIN should -not- be a different release
2006-07-01 18233, 2006
dmp__panda
errr;..
2006-07-01 18244, 2006
inhouseuk
I suspect the different stores are handled by different departments
2006-07-01 18253, 2006
dmp__panda
definitely
2006-07-01 18212, 2006
teleGUISE
but how hard is it for them to say ok if its anywhere but country of origin add [import] to the title.. and just pull the track list from an ASIN db which is all mirrored
2006-07-01 18244, 2006
dmp__panda
coz obviously sometimes they are somewhat nuts with the way they deal with import
2006-07-01 18245, 2006
teleGUISE
it just seems to easy to fix and do.. they already know the info
2006-07-01 18205, 2006
dmp__panda
I suspect some store cuts better deals with a local importer rather than import from another AMZ
2006-07-01 18216, 2006
dmp__panda
and so mark it as... non import...
2006-07-01 18241, 2006
dmp__panda
not to mention .fr likes to import stuff from france
2006-07-01 18251, 2006
dmp__panda
:p
2006-07-01 18224, 2006
teleGUISE
i wouldnt think so.. but i guess possible.. i wouldnt think each store works there own deal but maybe they do.. i would think master buyers for all stores but maybe they have sub-buyers that work only 1 store
2006-07-01 18239, 2006
teleGUISE
they sure should have a lot more unique stuff if there was a buyer per domain i would think..
2006-07-01 18203, 2006
dmp__panda
you mean unique, as in "ASIN unique"? I guess they still search their own db before adding a new ASIN... which may by the way explain why we end up with different releases attache to the same... *shrugs*
2006-07-01 18222, 2006
teleGUISE
guess its those French / Canadians cuz the .ca has imports from their own country as well
2006-07-01 18232, 2006
dmp__panda
lol
2006-07-01 18204, 2006
inhouseuk
their buying and distribution seems to be at least partly centralised. I've had items bought from .co.uk shipped from .de or .fr
2006-07-01 18227, 2006
teleGUISE
The Amazon Standard Identification Number (ASIN; also known as Amazon Standard Item Number) is a product identification number used by Amazon.com.
2006-07-01 18248, 2006
teleGUISE
which is like a Amazon UPC so it should be unique
2006-07-01 18251, 2006
teleGUISE
anyone notice UK went to the /gp/product format officially now.. no more /exec/obidos
2006-07-01 18214, 2006
inhouseuk
it'd be better if they used the proper EAN/UPC like they do with ISBN on books
2006-07-01 18215, 2006
teleGUISE
so all those UK ASIN's we added specifically in the /exec/obidos/ format are old ;)
2006-07-01 18238, 2006
teleGUISE
i knew we shouldnt of had people change them
2006-07-01 18202, 2006
teleGUISE
even if you enter /exec/obidos/ it switches to /gp/product
2006-07-01 18218, 2006
inhouseuk
at least it redirects
2006-07-01 18214, 2006
teleGUISE
yes.. that would have really sucked if all our UK ASIN's would have 404'd
2006-07-01 18227, 2006
dmp__panda
See ya later people. Good night if some of you still sleep :) Good day for the others
2006-07-01 18238, 2006
teleGUISE
ok panda c ya 4 now
2006-07-01 18239, 2006
inhouseuk
sleep well dmp__panda
2006-07-01 18233, 2006
teleGUISE
even the .de domain has switched...
2006-07-01 18240, 2006
inhouseuk
teleGUISE: it would have been easy to fix those urls with direct db access
2006-07-01 18245, 2006
teleGUISE
yea! they actually mae something consistent
2006-07-01 18213, 2006
teleGUISE
inhouseuk: yes i still think we should do that now.. i think a script should run through and make them all since they are all using it now it appears
2006-07-01 18237, 2006
inhouseuk
yes probably
2006-07-01 18246, 2006
teleGUISE
oh leave it to .fr to still have both :)
2006-07-01 18259, 2006
teleGUISE
but im sure they are all switching
2006-07-01 18233, 2006
inhouseuk
best to wait until they've all done it and then just run it the once
2006-07-01 18214, 2006
inhouseuk
okay! I'm going to get a few hours sleep
2006-07-01 18219, 2006
inhouseuk
back later
2006-07-01 18252, 2006
teleGUISE
ok night inhouseuk... i guess im off to grab some grub
2006-07-01 18207, 2006
timo-
so ASINs don't preserve over an album merge?
2006-07-01 18213, 2006
teleGUISE
no.. it's best to add the asin to the merged into release or merge that direction
2006-07-01 18255, 2006
timo-
and I'm guessing other relationships don't merge, either?
2006-07-01 18215, 2006
teleGUISE
if you merge a release with an asin into one that doesn't but display an image the image wont display anymore and needs to be worked around
2006-07-01 18228, 2006
teleGUISE
yes they actually do.. asin is the only one that appears to have a glitch
2006-07-01 18249, 2006
timo-
ah
2006-07-01 18251, 2006
teleGUISE
i havent bothered checking that on test yet.. i assume it was fixed though
2006-07-01 18235, 2006
teleGUISE
but of course not live so until otherwise heard be sure to make the ending result of a merge have an asin added
2006-07-01 18226, 2006
tro has quit
2006-07-01 18227, 2006
teleGUISE
theres no problem if both have an ASIN AR.. its when 1 does and the other doesnt
2006-07-01 18216, 2006
timo-
just making sure before I leave a modnote reminding somebody to re-add the ASIN
2006-07-01 18236, 2006
teleGUISE
yep or just add it for them... so you know its done
2006-07-01 18242, 2006
timo-
I could do that... it's just that I was once roasted by Joan for something like that :]
2006-07-01 18253, 2006
timo-
for doing something like that
2006-07-01 18229, 2006
timo-
intervening
2006-07-01 18231, 2006
teleGUISE
really? some people take it as rude.. i just take it as considerate
2006-07-01 18251, 2006
teleGUISE
if you leave them a note and do it.. there shouldnt be a reason anyone would get mad
2006-07-01 18218, 2006
Nyght
Joan is similar to me, we like to have it pointed out so we can fix it, or give argument "why not".
2006-07-01 18220, 2006
teleGUISE
what happens if they dont check Mbrainz until after its passed .. it wouldnt get done then
2006-07-01 18228, 2006
timo-
well, I'll leave the mod open in one tab, I'll add the ASIN myself if the original moderator doesn't
2006-07-01 18250, 2006
teleGUISE
personally i dont have time to check up on all the mistakes i pointed out.. unless i know the person is active daily i just leave a note and fix it.. otherwise to many chance it will never get fixed whatevre it is
2006-07-01 18210, 2006
teleGUISE
you leave your tabs open for days?
2006-07-01 18234, 2006
timo-
yes
2006-07-01 18241, 2006
timo-
well, I never shut down my browser
2006-07-01 18249, 2006
Nyght
teleGUISE., you've always been good about that, and your way of doing that has never bothered me actually. But. when a lot of people do it... they don't leave that helpful. "I did this etc" comment./
2006-07-01 18258, 2006
teleGUISE
crap... i'd have like 200+ tabs then ;)
2006-07-01 18205, 2006
timo-
heh
2006-07-01 18211, 2006
Nyght does too, runs her browser open the whole time the computer is on
2006-07-01 18244, 2006
timo-
well, since this is firefox, I do restart it occasionally to free some memory
2006-07-01 18204, 2006
Nyght
I wouldn't leave it opne for all modnotes, that would be insane, but now I can access my votes again. :) then I do run through them once a week or so.
2006-07-01 18230, 2006
Nyght
They have a cache clearing extension timo
2006-07-01 18233, 2006
teleGUISE
some people take things the wrong way.. i've only had a small group iirc you can count them on 1 hand that ever said anything
2006-07-01 18223, 2006
teleGUISE
and then when i explain that we are all working towards the same goal and that many people don't return to fix them nobody has ever had a problem
2006-07-01 18255, 2006
Nyght
Yeah, and I'm getting that mentality a lot recently, specially with cat and label info. :D
2006-07-01 18229, 2006
teleGUISE
it's not a contest.. i'd rather know it's fixed than wonder if it will be.. i leave a not explained what needed to be done and then hope ill never have to see that type of edit wrong again by them cuz they know exactly what should have been done.. and if not it was my fault cuz I did it wrong
2006-07-01 18245, 2006
teleGUISE
cat and label info i just dont have time to check every single one.. so my standard request usually works good... as like ive said, ive been very happy most all people comply with the request in a timely fashion
2006-07-01 18245, 2006
teleGUISE
on US releases i usually do, do them cuz they are usually found very easy
2006-07-01 18247, 2006
Nyght
I do half the time.. sometimes it's just another step that I haven't done for whatever reason... I'd say it equally does go half time.
2006-07-01 18219, 2006
Nyght
I especially add them when I find the UPC/EAC code, those I personally find very helpful.
2006-07-01 18230, 2006
teleGUISE
but i ones that are questionable its easier to ask then to spend a 1/2 hour or more trying to search for something that doesnt even exist.. thats when i really get pissed
2006-07-01 18249, 2006
Nyght
I fully agree with asking.
2006-07-01 18203, 2006
teleGUISE
buy.com is still my buddy for EAN's even though you have to know how to work their borked search engine
2006-07-01 18202, 2006
teleGUISE
i'd say a good guess would be if buy has it's almost a 100% for sure they have the label/cat and ean
2006-07-01 18256, 2006
teleGUISE
the one thing asking and receiving proves is that many people are willing to add that data if they knew they were supposed to
2006-07-01 18209, 2006
teleGUISE
nyght: what was wrong with that url for drsaunde?
2006-07-01 18246, 2006
Nyght
I don't know... :shrugs: That's why I just said yeah, it supported the change. If not, I guess he's not used to my "no" this is why notes/ :)
2006-07-01 18218, 2006
Nyght
Though, goodness knows he should be after the long debate about co- and additional. Haven't you complained to drsaunde that I'm spam queen?
2006-07-01 18248, 2006
teleGUISE
i think everyone knows you are
2006-07-01 18205, 2006
teleGUISE
i wish there was a per edit opt out for mail tick box!
2006-07-01 18204, 2006
teleGUISE
nyght: now your in trouble you find a cover image with all the data that belongs in the annotation and you didnt even add it... grrrr
2006-07-01 18251, 2006
Coeus
ahh..so i just turned 23, and I spend the first 30min doing edits on mb
2006-07-01 18255, 2006
Coeus
is this a problem?
2006-07-01 18209, 2006
Nyght
hehehehe that's cause I'm fixing my relationships
2006-07-01 18229, 2006
Nyght
Coeus: You are certainly too addicted, you should seek a psych at once!
2006-07-01 18242, 2006
Nyght
ugh, I'm going to have to look up some of these again to see if executive fits... :le sigh:
2006-07-01 18235, 2006
Coeus
Nyght: so should i go to a psychologist or a psychic?
2006-07-01 18203, 2006
Nyght
Hmm... psychiatrist, this is going to need heavy prescriptions.
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Knio1
Knio1 is now known as Knio
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Nyght
Nyght is now known as NyghtMARE
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VxJasonxV
Any reasonable Psychiatrist would perscribe a few gallons of booze
2006-07-01 18238, 2006
VxJasonxV
for Coeus
2006-07-01 18211, 2006
Coeus
ya, drinking and edits are probobly not the best of combonations
2006-07-01 18226, 2006
VxJasonxV
You never know
2006-07-01 18231, 2006
VxJasonxV
some people type BETTER when they're drunk
2006-07-01 18239, 2006
VxJasonxV
(because they type horribly when sober)
2006-07-01 18237, 2006
VxJasonxV
Not that I think you suck at typing.
2006-07-01 18244, 2006
VxJasonxV
you've seemed to hold your own here nicely.
2006-07-01 18236, 2006
Coeus
well, i was just murdering voip names in #cisco just now...so maybe its just mb that keeps me in line ;)
