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      • dmp_panda
        loool
      • works in fox here :D -- I'll test on dows
      • teleGUISE
        well of course "Invalid" probably won't fly for many
      • peeps...
      • and how can I check anything if all your squashable quirks mean that nothing works, once you've put the wrong date in :)
      • dmp_panda
        lol
      • Just out of curiosity: what dates did you tried?
      • teleGUISE
        ah ok.. i see if you pick the country first it then shows you the Day.. but if you put the date first then the country is when it gets borked...
      • 1999-01-24 through 1999-1-26
      • no zero preceding on the first
      • did you fix the white space glitch while you were at it?
      • dmp_panda
        What's the "white space glitch"?
      • teleGUISE
        if you put "1999" "1 " "24" or "1999" " 1" "24" it doesnt like it
      • dmp_panda
        obviously :/ fixing it now
      • would you place that day indication where I put it? or elsewhere?
      • teleGUISE
        well of course it moves the boxes out of order so I would keep the tick boxes in a column and put the verbage off to the right
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      • dmp_panda
        kay
      • teleGUISE
        you've actually moved it over from the original position for some reason from the start
      • dmp_panda
        I didn't bothered to add it in a new table cell, but in the same cell as the tickbox (so it moves things :))
      • teleGUISE
        ah.. lazy ;)
      • dmp_panda
        ok, he may be more happy now with space glitch and such
      • teleGUISE
        I think the verbage would probably have to be changed to "Verify Date" to keep all happy or "Please Verify" something of that sort
      • dmp_panda
        take your pick :p
      • Nyght 's cats almost doused the computer in water chasing moths
      • teleGUISE
        hee.. and when you do things backwards like enter the month, day and then the year it says invalid before you finish... (just nitpickin') :)
      • well don't ask Nyght which verbage cuz she will have us talking in a circle for an hour :P
      • Nyght
        teleGUISE: I just want to get things done... I'm not going to debate and argue after a point.. it's useless.
      • there's way too much of that on the mailing list. :)
      • dmp_panda
        it does until you finish adding a year between 1900 - 2100 ;)
      • teleGUISE
        i guess "Please Verify" will probably have to be used.. though its not the best ...actually though not sure how to make it not confusing, you had to tick a box to accept that possibly invalid date would be best..
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      • dmp_panda
        well, first there are purely invalid dates 1912/24/52
      • teleGUISE
        but guess there isnt a way to do that on that page being it says at the top to tick boxes you want to remove
      • dmp_panda
        mmm...
      • teleGUISE
        as you know presently it just lets you enter them and then goes back
      • it's not on the fly its done when you click continue
      • dmp_panda
        so, *maybe* (not sure), we may prevent to actually try submitting a completely invalid date;
      • teleGUISE
        i guess you could do it that way
      • well you could either do it that way or follow the flow of where it says invalid date say Verify Date... to continue again.. might be easier to integrate that way
      • not ideal though
      • dmp_panda
        and for other *potentially* not coherent dates (Sundays), just let the day indication as is, and let the user submit?
      • teleGUISE
        of course you also have to limit only the 1 country by day... (but i know this is just a primer)
      • the main 3 would be US, UK and JP cuz DE is weird :)
      • did Sheppy jump in or is it his ghost?
      • dmp_panda
        1 country by day or 1 day by country? :)
      • teleGUISE
        1 country by day... cuz DE has more than 1 day possible
      • though the table can be added and expanded once the main infrastructure is in place.. that parts easy
      • dmp_panda
        ok: by the way, I guess it's safe to assume that a release should be between 1900 and 2100, right ? ;)
      • teleGUISE
        i really wish we could have a expanded and condensed country list... I mean no disrespect to all the other countries but I guarantee 90%+ of all the album adds are either UK, US, JP, DE, FR .. i dont need a list of 80 countries to choose from
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      • Nyght
        yeah, like three I think, on de
      • teleGUISE
        there's nyght 20minutes later again :)
      • Nyght
        Wrong, that was three minutes. :D
      • teleGUISE
        ok 20 is exaggerating it was 3
      • :)
      • Shepard: you there or lurking for fear of pouncing ?
      • Nyght
        Yeah, I think I've entered about five "others"
      • teleGUISE
        ok what response and how many minutes ago was the comment this time ;)?
      • Nyght
        other countries. :P
      • teleGUISE
        im sure that would never happen cuz everyone would want their country to be on the condensed list... blah blah .. nobody would agree and hence why we have a 80 country list to choose from
      • Nyght
        Of course.
      • teleGUISE
        but things like Uzbekistan, Vanuata .. umm i think they have a 0 release count in the db so aren't on the top 10.. i think 10 could cover it..
      • ah maybe not...
      • forgot what site does it but they do have like a top 10 then list the other countries below.. which would be nice
      • dmp_panda
        or a button to switch on the fly between condensed list / full list?
      • teleGUISE
        anway... since im talking to myself... I think anything is a possible improvement over what we have
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      • MartinRudat
        a map. =)
      • teleGUISE
        but again won't people whom aren't on the condensed list bitch cuz they always have to hit Full..
      • i dunno... i think they can suffer :) .. unless they can show they are entering a ton of releases from that country I dont see why clicking another button would hurt.. It sure would make the common edits easier though
      • dmp_panda
        especially these who grab their dates from amz.oulanbator :D
      • Nyght
        Well, I'm trying to find something like the site you were talking about.
      • teleGUISE
        wow again 3 minutes ago.. at least she is consistent :P
      • logitech?
      • no they have a map like Martin mentioned
      • errr no they dont I thought they did.. they just have a pic of a map up top
      • Nyght
        and why would they care about releases of cds
      • teleGUISE
        who said it was a cd release site that has a country pull down list?
      • it was a site to choose where you would be directed for assistance/info/etc..
      • just like logitech has but in a pull down menu fashion
      • Nyght
        ah... my misunderstanding
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      • I had thought you wanted a top release site so we could potentially prune out some never released countries...
      • teleGUISE
        huh? we have a list that nobody wanted to tell me what inhouse's url was that shows the countries by amount of releases
      • that would be the way to create our top 10 or whatever... but I dont know the url
      • Nyght
        well, I can't read his mind.. no, I was seeking out general release information.
      • teleGUISE
        need to google the chat logs for mb.inhouse.co.uk for the month of March on
      • Shepard
        teleGUISE: what is it?
      • teleGUISE
        HI!
      • ;)
      • Nyght
        Enjoy. :)
      • Shepard
        hi
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      • teleGUISE
        curious from your experience what days primarily DE fell on.. or should I say which days you haven't seen them fall on.. since we know DE is weird and release any day.. From what I've experienced it usually is either Monday, Wednesday or Friday
      • releases being released that is
      • awww beth has her own inhouse page
      • walla... good ole google :O
      • Shepard
        well fuchs told me some time ago that we indeed *have* an official release day. it was changed to friday some time ago (dunno what it was before). but I've seen releases being released at different days
      • teleGUISE
        Nyght: I was right :) .. Friday was the main day
      • Nyght
        Yep, it's just the most obvious disc ids mainly trying to get those down for a little while. Again, mindless edits of late
      • teleGUISE
        it seems like if the release was also in the UK then the day matched.. meaning if the UK and DE release were the same it was Monday for both UK & DE
      • did you see the link..
      • dmp_panda
        yes
      • teleGUISE
        we could have a top 20 it looks like
      • never would have thought Russian Federation was up on the list that high
      • dmp_panda
        "20" even include unknown country ;)
      • teleGUISE
        yes :)... wow Italy is up there too..
      • but initial list did pick the top 4 :).
      • oh i picked 5 and Finland did beat out France
      • so i was 1 off
      • dmp_panda
        Belgium is pretty also
      • I wouldn't have thought that
      • teleGUISE
        Shepard: not that you probably bothered to check but from your experience you don't 'recall' seeing DE releases being on Thursday, Saturday or Sundays
      • heee.. I wonder if that 1 Zimbabwe release was the one I set along time ago before we had unknown country ;).. too bad I cant recall what release that was
      • dmp_panda
        lool :p
      • Shepard
        teleGUISE: just checked how it was. on september 2005 they changed it from monday to friday
      • MartinRudat
        ...I wouldn't be surprised if 5 included 'unknown country'...
      • teleGUISE
        Shepard: hey where did you find that info!
      • Shepard
        and I *have* seen releases on other days so don't dare changing german release dates ;)
      • dmp_panda
        updated the version online - it's now more polite ("red" the wrong) and should be better at guessing what is invalid
      • Shepard
        you can't read the sites where I found it anyways :)
      • teleGUISE
        well like I said mainly I recall German being on Mon, Wed, or Friday... but you would know more so.. At least of the releases i've done (i'd say 95%) were 1 of those 3 days
      • Shepard: :( .. what type of site is it? just general music knowledge info... Can Elephants Jump (inside joke from earlier) , or a record label site?
      • Shepard
        google for "freitag ist musiktag" ;)
      • oh and the first friday was 2005-09-23
      • teleGUISE
        i just saw that too..
      • i didnt think you were serious about that search... but sure enough you were and there it is
      • Shepard
        it's how they called their campaign
      • teleGUISE
        Bloodhound, The Corrs, heryl Crow, Foo Fighters, Bon Garcon, Fish, Him, Patrick Lindner, Sean Paul, Wolfgang Petry, Andre Rieu, SEER, Shakira, Britney Spears, Tok Tok Tok, Pete Townshend, Neil Young were of the first
      • somewhere does it explain why "A Day" was chosen or is used?
      • like how it all began
      • Shepard
        dunno, haven't read all those since I don't care
      • but various sites say it was monday before
      • teleGUISE
        hmm.. well that's good to know.. so we have the top 4 countries covered for (most case scenarios)
      • Shepard
        what are you doing anyways?
      • teleGUISE
        creating stuff to piss you off :P
      • dmp_panda: ok now it says the day but doesnt say invalid ;)?
      • Shepard
        thanks for the info...
      • dmp_panda
        for which date
      • teleGUISE
        any
      • hang on shep.. just teasing
      • dmp_panda
        I may have borked, sure thing ;) updating live - be sure to force reload and flush your bro cache
      • does any good?
      • teleGUISE
        when should it say Invalid or Verify or whatever... I flushed closed ie reopened still the same thing .. shows the day but never says bad date
      • dmp_panda
        1950/50/50 should say invalid + red
      • drop ie for now