#musicbrainz

I don't like to bitch at people though. :( I know I did it.. and I had viable reasons. but, I'm still not "proud" about it.

Nyght: that's ok. you were young and didn't know any better; now you've grown and matured :D

i wonder if Disney should remain as an artist in MB so that it can be monitored for new additions

That's what Nikki was saying, and I can see a way to do it, but it's with AR's though there is one album I don't think will ever be "out" of disney so, I'm seeing on that score.

See, we could do it with AR's as such like Menken is/was a member of Disney (which is sorta true, because he is a member of their composing staff) but, it's misusing the AR's too.

I think though that the single attraction medley will continue to be there.. I've found two references to it in googling, and no composers. Can't find it on ASCAP, or BMI, and while I may stumble on it with a different search engine. I'll be very surprised. It's another multiple composer piece I'm sure.

hi.

i can't get to run tagger.py properly. it claims the following:

OSError: libofa.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

this is not true, however, as i have libofa installed and this symlink exists in /usr/local/lib

hi andre__, I wish I could help you, but I don't know anything about the lib stuff.

hey, I saw in the logs that nikki (or nikki_) had the same problem I did!

if luks is around, or if Martin shows up, maybe they could..

ah, nikki's actually around a lot more. Perhaps she'll show in a not too long of a time.

all right... i'll just hang around then

Nyght: you found performer's for disney's music sampler? wow you got skills

cool welcome to the craziness. ;)

nechto.. um, yeah as I recall it was only two different composers. I'd have to dig it back up to find out. But, I think one was baker so, I can go to his page. (also starting to clean up the names and normalize them.. slowly!)

a lot of the difficulties lifted once yllona suggested those two search engines! It was almost easy again

Nyght: thanks

welcome

took looking through about three to five multi discs, but I knew I'd find it.

Nyght: i actually went to check my browser's history. i looked for composers for the album 5 days ago :)

for me that takes longer then again.. I don't even like digging into my history at all

it's too chaotic and scattered

adn I know I lost an album in there somewhere with [unknown] that wasnt' meant to be lost into unknown.. but, I'll find it again or someone will eventually.

this is so strange. i'm looking at a half screwed up compilation, because of how it's listed on a cd according to it's moderator. and in the process i found another compilation that has all the same performers, all the same tracks, and almost the same track times and differs only by the last track. they are released on different labels though

Nyght: it's possible for different labels to release compilations that differ only by one track, right?

i've seen it on number of russian releases, but i though there are copyright laws in europe and in us that prevent that kind of thing

I would say it's hit or miss.. I've seen some pretty crazy things like that.. but, it's not an often times situation. What's the disc, I can try and find the different instances of it. (if it's not "too simple" or if the song's aren't too named easy".)

I've seen it with comp's being included within "boxed" sets, that are from the same label.

but, from what I heard from bands.. they don't have as much control over what singles go out on comp discs as I had thought.. (I hate labels. :D )

Nyght: if you can find this release http://musicbrainz.org/showalbum.html?albumid=2... it would really help. this is the release i found by accident http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?a...

The yellow tracks are changes to style right? Or do I have to find out those titles too?

Nyght: the yellow tracks have very strange titles by classical standards. most of them have no tempos according to the moderator who has the disc

also according to them the album is called Beethoven's Greatest Classical Hits

I'm only finding one instance of that song on compact disc..

and I'm trying to find that compact disc right now.

the last song that is questionable.

Nyght: even if that's the case the last track times differ by too much on for the release to be Beethoven In The Evening album, which is the last link i posted

for that link I just put up?

it's a five second difference

Nyght: that's the album. thanks. you are my hero :P

well that's why google sometimes is better than alltheweb. :)

Nyght: i use google. but i probably used the wrong search criteria

"Sydney Symphony Orchestra" "Symphony No. 8 in F major Op.93"

That's the search criteria I used

but, you had it narrowed down a lot, with your comment about the last track being different.

i searched for the album based on label the moderator gave me and the title they provided

greatest hits is a very hard search

there's too many greatest hits.. and believe me, I groaned when I saw the title. But, then it's just a matter of looking for something obscure

and as I said, there's one record of that (by that title of course) in the symphony's history, and then on one disc. That's the same disc that UNLV has.

Nyght: the other album is already in MB, but apparently it's also called something different. it's called Beethoven: Greatest Composers Sounds of Excellence http://musicbrainz.org/showalbum.html?albumid=1... i think that's the album http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?a... , but who knows

hello martin, how's your day?

Hi Martin

I think nechto13 that the names should be changed to reflect the names we've found. (mainly because greatest is once more so difficult to find.) and name searches are almost always the "norm" for trying to find cds

G'day nechto13, my day has been well, how about you?

G'day Beth.

Martin, andre__ was asking about lib things.. do you know anything about that?

and how are you, as well. ;)

Nyght: nope, sorry.

I've been pretty good... I wonder where the re-connect to irc button in gaim is, though...

MartinRudat: my day turned out better than yesterday, i was exhausted by midnight yesterday and got 7 hours of sleep, but i didn't wake up rested :(. i think i overslept, i usually get only 4,5 hours tops

dang. well, I had thought you were one of the more geeky of our number. ;) I guess I misthought!

there isn't. I close down the "account" and reopen it and it all comes up just fine. (disable, reenable) whatever you would use.

and glad you're pretty good! That's always uplifting for people. :D

Nyght: Martin's geeky, but in a cooler way :)

Nyght: well... I am, but I looked at the perl bindings for the library, and decided that to make something up myself that talks to the XMLWebService instead...

Ah, most assuredly nechto13

okay, but you might be able to answer why it's not "finding the library" as I recall the comment was? (Of course, andre__ hasn't said anything, so maybe they've run off to other things now.)_

If I felt really enthused, I might go to the extent of making a more perlish api for the library... but what I've got works well enough for me so far...

Nyght: there are 11 great composers albums under beethoven alone. i shudder to think about bach

not finding the library? on linux, I'd ask if they've run ldconfig yet...

nechto13: that's why you're a classical moderator and I'm not ... at least currently.

let me look in the chat log real quick

martin http://chatlogs.musicbrainz.org/2006/2006-05/20...

hmm... I think that this has come up a few times earlier... and I still can't remember what the fix was...

that's what they had eluded to as well with nikki having experienced it.. but, I'm not the best at searching chat logs either. :)

ah well.. again, they're not currently seeming active in this channel, so it doesn't seem to matter currently at the moment.

nechto13: weren't you looking for a specific cover a week ago or so?

Nyght: at least one time, it was a need to run ldconfig... every packaging system runs it automatically after installing libraries... people forget to do it when installing from source...

!wtf libofa

That acronym wasn't in the database, please add the definition if you find it: http://acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?acronym=l...

Nyght: i was, but i don't remember what the album was called

I will try and remember that... at least I can sound like I know what I'm talking about Martin. ;)

ah, too bad. You might throw this in your favorite or bookmarks (whatever you use) http://www.coveruniverse.com/search.php?q=Das+D...

Nyght: what do i seach by album name?

*what do i seach by?

I believe that one is done by album name nechto13

that's what I searched for.

Sorry, had run off for a bit..

nechto13: what is this http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4782724 comment about the space being left out before something. Is that about the ? or, is it something i'm not seeing?

"morning" nikki

it is morning

disgustingly bright and sunny too

ugh and ick!

You silly people in GMT

it's still morning in finland

Nyght: don't have to appologize. i searched for piano concerto, but got almost nothing using the search. certainly nothing close to correct. this is the link to the album http://bergen.bccls.org/MARION/AEG-8071 and i'm not sure what to search for using the cover search

I didn't get much sleep though.

It's morning whenever I wake up, but since that was an hour and a half ago, it's almost midday. ;)

I have my own timezone

juhae standard time?

G'day nikki. ...was the doctor cute? =)

nikki_: also known as SST, Superior Standard Time

she's pretty.

Nyght: that's right. on the mod the space is before the question mark. it's one of the rules for french punctuation

*punctuation in french

good morning nikki_

Nyght: yes, the answer was to run ldconfig

nikki_: how much chocolate would it take for you to run the russian subscription script for me?

I would either have to find it or rewrite it

and right now I'm doing nothing because I'm really tired

ah, ick.. okay, I'll remember that

nechto13: ^^

thanks nikki, as I said I'll keep that in mind. :)

nikki_: it's not urgent. i can wait for about a month. after that i'm gonna be pretty busy installing linux and trying to port MB server once i feel comfortable enough using the new operating system. hopefully that will be sooner than later

I remember now, I'll see what I might be able to find...

thanks Nyght

hi MartinRudat, Nyght said you could perhaps help me

andre__: (1:35:06 AM) nikki_: Nyght: yes, the answer was to run ldconfig

yes I did run ldconfig, but when i run tagger.py it complains that libofa.so.0 does not exist

And Martin said the same thing

:(

(1:13:49 AM) MartinRudat: Nyght: at least one time, it was a need to run ldconfig... every packaging system runs it automatically after installing libraries... people forget to do it when installing from source...

Yeah, so.. I'm not positive what to say. Though nikki was here a moment ago, and Martin a few moments ago... you're welcome

andre__: is /usr/local/lib in /etc/ld.so.conf?

i hope not. one sec