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      • yalaforge
        yes, I think so. never used it though
      • pdb, IIRC
      • lauri
        heh, iget an error near startup, that seems to just talk about gui column sizes
      • then nothing, no output errors or anything, it just doesnt _work_ right
      • and i dont even know where to start looking for that yet
      • yalaforge
        sorry, I don't know much about the wx stuff. luks might be able to help
      • yalaforge doesn't run bsd anymore
      • MartinRudat
        wx? an implementation of awt in C? that's expected to work well? err...
      • yalaforge
        wxwidgets, a cross-platform gui toolkit
      • lauri
        well, sorta, its a cross platform wrapper around a whole lot of sort of native toolkits
      • awt is not that far off, really
      • yalaforge
        from looking at the APIs I don't see much they have in common
      • MartinRudat
        I've played with it a little... I've gotten the impression that it's about as good at the cross-gui thing as awt... ie, simple things work... complicated things, uhh... get complicated.
      • yalaforge
        except for being gui toolkits, of course
      • lauri
        conceptually, not api wise
      • MartinRudat 's brother implemented a widget on top of wxpython... I get the impression it might actually have been easier to do with raw X calls made using printf...
      • i should stop complaining, it's not as bad as the mldonkey stuff, done in a nice combination of wx-gtk and ocaml
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      • juhae
        Umm. Anyone alive who has some experience about entering musicals/operas?
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      • mudcrow
        only a rcok opera by otway and atilla
      • Juhae: do you know if Lars Lang credited on Bloodstains across Sweden is Lars Lang or a typo for the band Lars Langs?
      • juhae
        No idea really, but prolly a typo
      • I recall the Bloodstains across-serie has quite a few of spelling errors :)
      • Well, this is a punk rock musical which I entered: http://musicbrainz.org/album/961a7c8a-fa1e-4fd7...
      • mudcrow
        http://web.telia.com/~u26616119/langs/lars_lang... has the band name as Lars Langs, with Lars Lang a member
      • juhae
        I wasn't just too sure how to enter all that pre-track title information
      • mudcrow
        looks ok to me (but it is in Polish and I'm no opera specialist)
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      • juhae
        Also, the last three tracks which don't have that pre-title info are all part of the Epilogue, but I thought it'd be somewhat redundant to prefix them all with "Epilogue:"
      • mudcrow
        hmm, don't know. I'd be inclined to include epilogue
      • juhae
        Those three are the third chapter called "Epilogue" in the same way that tracks 1-8 are first chapter, "Teoria Buntu", and 9-12 are the second chapter "Deklaracja milosci"
      • So there's really no Epilogue prefix in the track titles (as with the Akt-stuff)
      • But in the chapter marking which I've omitted from the track titles completely
      • This is why I was begging for help :p
      • mudcrow
        you're best option is to ask on mbusers
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      • Missbrukarna is listed as Miss Brukarna at discogs :)
      • yalaforge
        so it must be correct. there's no incorrect data at discogs, of course
      • nikki_ snickers
      • mudcrow
        I would correct it, but as no bugger ever seems to vote there, I can't be bothered to
      • MBChatLogger
        Ewww! Gross!
      • Muz
        Gracenote, what a Godsend!
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      • nikki
        hi beth!
      • Muz
        Hey Beth
      • MartinRudat
        G'day nikki, Beth.
      • Nyght
        Hi Nikki and Muz
      • Martin. :)
      • Muz! You got your nick!
      • Muz
        Yup! :D
      • Muz cuddles it
      • nikki didn't get hers :(
      • Nyght
        Very very cool!
      • Muz
        Shame I won't be about much to use it :(
      • Nyght
        ah. :( What is your preferred nick nikki?
      • nikki
        'nikki'
      • Nyght
        Why not?
      • nikki
        some person in australia registered it
      • Muz
        I'm moving out to the land of no internet and work
      • nikki
        hah
      • Muz
        Well, soon there will be upgrades and the internet will exist at my abode,but until them, I'm farked
      • Nyght
        Well that sucks! to both
      • Muz
        I happen to like my work :P
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      • Nyght
        the work is cool. I mean, that sucks that nikki's nick was registered to someone in Australia and you'd be without internet
      • Muz
        Ah
      • Nyght
        that you'll get it soon though is neat. :D
      • Muz
        Eeeh, it's a good thing, I have stuff to do,and I'd only keep procastinating
      • Nyght
        I'm still waking up, so not pressing my fingers too quick, or I'll start throwing random words in the sentences
      • probably from music I'm listening to. :D
      • Muz
        I tend to skip words out :\ Even when I'm fully awake :/
      • Nyght
        procrastination is a bad thing
      • Muz
        Indeed
      • Nyght
        That happens to. Sometimes I wonder how many tracks our minds are on when I read back over things.. and we seemed to fully understand what the other person was saying too.. which is the beauty of it. :D
      • Nyght grins as her kids start singing Queen We Will Rock You
      • Muz
        Oooh kids? I thought you only had one :O
      • Muz sits on the floor, crosses his legs and awaits stories
      • Nyght
        nah, I have two boys, 9 and 11, usually they're trying to kill each other though
      • Muz
        Great past time that :D I used to do it all the time with my brothers
      • Nyght
        yeah my brother always tried to kill me too.. I mean, I wasn't all that annoying. The kiddos.. they're great, amusing, stubborn, yeah, normal kids
      • Muz
        Hehe
      • Muz was never stubborn
      • Muz coughs
      • Nyght
        Mmmmm from your perspective I'm sure that's true. ;) How many siblings did you grow up with?
      • Muz
        Too many ;)
      • Far too many...
      • MartinRudat
        1? =)
      • Muz
        I'll say as much as 3<
      • But that doesn't say much :P
      • Nyght
        That would be hectic.. from both the kids point of view and the parents.
      • Muz
        Yup
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      • dmppanda
        hi Nyght :) Didn't see you were there
      • Nyght
        hi dmppanda, that means you were probably head stuck in a browser. :D
      • dmppanda
        right :p
      • I was wondering, about voting on add album...
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      • I've seen there's an automod that states he 'll vote no if there's no release info
      • nikki_ comes back with a nice clean bathroom :D
      • I feel it's a bit harsh, but I would like to know what ya think
      • Nyght
        actually.. that's not so much the case.
      • That created a huge stir in the mailing list.. I don't believe that's that mods practice any more.
      • nikki_ quickly seals the can of worms again
      • dmppanda
        lol
      • kay
      • Muz
        If that was the case, my failed mods count would be 50 million long. I'm very lazy and skip the modnotes too often
      • Nyght
        There is nowhere proof for album adds was asked on admission to the database, and no release info and such is sometimes difficult to find.
      • at any rate. :) I figure that it would be great if you voted on album adds.. and personally I'm trying to formulate some things to try and get the camps happy with the whole process.
      • Because now it seems like people are feeling shy to vote no, even if someone has asked for something and never gets a response back. :(
      • dmppanda
        well... I don't feel really like voting yet (outside of my pet artists). It's hard. It means you think you known....
      • Nyght
        anyways... my suggestion is asking for a link or something. Pollitely suggesting they add the missing information and if they don't respond back to you at all.... I feel that's decent grounds if you can't find the album with an easy search to vote no.
      • That's just my opinion, but I'm planning on seeing if it's acceptable to more people.. so there's not "hidden rules".
      • dmppanda: I think it's a matter of comfort.
      • For instance, you could vote on add relationships. (usually at this point it's ASIN's being added) and that's something relatively easy to spot, tracks should be the same as the album to which the ASIN is going t.
      • dmppanda
        ah! amazon is another camel...
      • different opinions...
      • wiki doc confusing... (or I'm dumb)
      • Nyght
        muz, I still try to add modnotes when it's "questionable" or if I want it for easy reference if someone's going back and then wonders.. was this accurate?
      • nikki_
        amazon is a camel now? :o
      • dmppanda
        nikki_: lol. And I'm a camel's spotter (MP flying circus) :p
      • Muz
        Beth, you'd be lucky to see an add album modnote from me, or a modnote of any type, I am just incredibly slack
      • nikki_
        pfft. muz'll never make an automod with that attitude :P
      • Muz
        I know :P I'm not too miffed, I hardly ever make mods on MB anyhow, so it would be a waste of an election :P
      • Nyght
        lol well.. it's all how ya look at it. When I see delete album, no notes, no ability to contact etc. I think.. if there had just been a url there in the first place. explanation what not.
      • Muz enjoys his power on last.fm instead :P
      • It's a matter of it's a little time to me, and a lot of time for how many other mods to verify, check, dismiss whatnot.
      • speaking of last fm.... I'll have to pick your brain about that later. ;)
      • dmppanda
        Nyght: m. I think I get it. Thanks for your (countless now) tips - back to my mods :) - ttyl
      • Muz
        Oh?
      • Nyght
        enjoy! I think the voting aspects have been left a bit lost, and want to as well try and give more suggestions wiki wise for them.. (on that growing list.:D )
      • mudcrow
        no-one should be voting no just because a release has no release date
      • Nyght
        yeah.. like, for instance... how do they get their information for albums, how can new albums be added to an artist.. that sorta thing.
      • and I'm not talking obscure albums. I'm talking more mainstreamish.
      • mudcrow: I don't think anyone is.
      • and I know I didn't state that should be supported./
      • mudcrow
        I'll ask for release date, cat number, label, if I cannot find a particular release, and I may vote no if I get no reply
      • nikki_ doesn't object to voting no if you're suspicious about it
      • but thats only if I've serched the entire web and find no reference for that release