wolfsong13 runs off to read the email Nyght sent last night
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lauri
gnite folks
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Nyght
ruaok: Did I ever actually explain what I meant with the multiple track analyze and Picard?
2006-05-12 13201, 2006
ruaok
dont think so.
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Nyght
ah, um, basically just being able to click on a cluster, and have it analyze all of the tracks instead of having to click each one and telling it to anazlyze.
2006-05-12 13208, 2006
Nyght
analyze too. ;)
2006-05-12 13259, 2006
ruaok
yes...
2006-05-12 13210, 2006
ruaok
I have many plans to make all that much smarter.
2006-05-12 13227, 2006
ruaok
something like this:
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ruaok
0) user adds files
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ruaok
1) read metadata from files
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ruaok
2) cluster
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ruaok
3) for each cluster, do an album lucene search, if found, match cluster to album, done.
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ruaok
4. start randomly pweeding tracks from a cluster and look them up. If two or more tracks from one cluster match nicely to an album, download album, move things over.
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ruaok
5) Any tracks leftover, pweed them.
2006-05-12 13209, 2006
ruaok
sound sane?
2006-05-12 13229, 2006
luks
Nyght: click on the first one, press shift and click on the last one, click "Analyze" from the toolbar
saxpoet: I've only had one instance of this, and it was Korn's version of the song attrib'd to Draiman.. I put it as a NAT... at the same time. I don't feel like I have a good enough grasp on NAT's to truly give much information or suggestions, and I wish I could.
2006-05-12 13247, 2006
wolfsong13
also I why bootleg?
2006-05-12 13201, 2006
saxpoet
I can see no other reason why it is not good enough as is, but a voter does not like it as is ... just looking for ideas
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saxpoet
boot because this is ripped from VHS, not a commercial release
2006-05-12 13257, 2006
Nyght
well there's waiting the votes out and seeing if you get any yes. One no doesn't make a vote fail unless you don't get two yes votes...
2006-05-12 13201, 2006
wolfsong13
is the VHS a commercial release?
2006-05-12 13231, 2006
saxpoet
seems that this is an extension of the question about NATs ripped from TV, VH1 Award ceremonies and the like
2006-05-12 13258, 2006
wolfsong13
no i would say that's a bit different
2006-05-12 13211, 2006
saxpoet
yes, the VHS is commercial ... I entered amazon and IMDB links
2006-05-12 13225, 2006
wolfsong13
then the source of the audio is official
2006-05-12 13252, 2006
wolfsong13
we batted this around in a discussion around DVDs
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Nyght
hi Joan
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Joan_W
hi beth
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saxpoet
I think that I wsas in one of those discussions once
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ngw has quit
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wolfsong13
bootleg should really apply to unofficial sources
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saxpoet
ok ... so a change to 'official' could apply ... but the real trouble is overcoming the objection of the NO voter
2006-05-12 13212, 2006
Joan_W
anyone seen teleguise today
2006-05-12 13239, 2006
Nyght
Oh darn... I just realized there's somewhat of a problem with the inclusion of a "g" rated music merged with "nr" rated music... and it comes with puid attachment.
2006-05-12 13249, 2006
Nyght
not I
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saxpoet
I have dropped by here a few times in the past few days to try and catch him and have a direct discussion
2006-05-12 13230, 2006
Nyght
he's usually here later.. um... five more hours or so?
2006-05-12 13254, 2006
Joan_W
then he must have been early last night - we had quite a long discussion about amg edits
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saxpoet
cool, I'll check back in later
2006-05-12 13243, 2006
Nyght
He was probably avoiding me Joan ;)
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wolfsong13
saxpoet: it's a tough sell since there's no "proof" for the tracks
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Joan_W
avoiding you beth - NO
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wolfsong13
in good faith i'd have obstain
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wolfsong13 waves @ Joan_W
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Joan_W
hi wolfsong
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Nyght
LOL ah come on... I'm sure on occasion he gets tired of the teasing. ;) But, you're probably right.. I think he thrives on it.
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Joan_W
he loves it
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Joan_W
I don't think he even minds when we both have a go
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Nyght
wolfie, Joan's gonna help me clean up the wiki's I do.
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Nyght dances
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saxpoet
same problem but even worse with rips from TV wolf ...
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Joan_W
I miss dancing
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Nyght
Nah, it's two women giving him a hard time.. most men crave that. :D
2006-05-12 13254, 2006
saxpoet
and how many NATs from MTV awards etc. have made it into the dB with no problem?
2006-05-12 13207, 2006
Nyght
yes saxpoet, I'm trying to right now figure out something similar with a bunch of remix tracks.
2006-05-12 13221, 2006
Joan_W
40 or so remix tracks
2006-05-12 13228, 2006
wolfsong13
Nyght: did i respond to that email?
2006-05-12 13230, 2006
Nyght
Joan, so do I
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Nyght
Yeah..
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Nyght
You mentioned to do them in NATs, but it seems like a lot of NATs to me.
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Nyght
and I would leave the sample tracks out all together.
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Nyght
altogether too.
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Nyght corrects herself before Joan does.
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Nyght
actually Joan... which is correct there. Do you know?
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Joan_W
altogether
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Nyght
okay cool. :D
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saxpoet
exactly, Nyght. especially when they can be tracked to a repeatable source
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Joan_W
who is rpedro? new name - haven't seen it before
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wolfsong13
Nyght: accept they weren't compiled into an album and don't' come from the same source
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Nyght
saxpoet: I think part of getting things like that accepted is how large of a crowd knows about them, would utilize etc... and I'm not saying that's correct, I just think that's what says if they gain admission or not into the db
2006-05-12 13249, 2006
Joan_W
unfortunately beth, that is also true of some of the less well known single artists and groups
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Nyght
The ten tracks all came from the mp3.com site.. the various others, were mainly from mp3.com, but from their remixers, or, from the message board. So, you're correct they were never on albums and I don't believe they will ever be on albums.
2006-05-12 13217, 2006
Joan_W
with albums
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Nyght
Klayton's talking about doing another remix contest, and those tracks perhaps going out on an album.. but, he's pretty done with Symbiont to my understanding.
2006-05-12 13218, 2006
Nyght
Joan, yes, but the add artists are becoming more and more "auto accepted" because if they don't get populated they auto delete.
2006-05-12 13238, 2006
saxpoet
has there been talk of adding a "MusicSourceGuide" to accompany the Style and Editing Gu�ides?
2006-05-12 13208, 2006
Nyght
but, as far as releases, yes.. that can be difficult. Though I think if there's not freedb import there, sometimes that with a disc id can help a lot.
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saxpoet
ah, but there is a freedb import of this ... that is how I brought it in
2006-05-12 13211, 2006
Nyght
Of course, those disc id's can be a pain in the arse too, because we're still pruning out home burnt discs.
2006-05-12 13237, 2006
Nyght
Hmm... that might be part of the flack? I don't know honestly...
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Nyght
saxpoet: do you have the track?
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saxpoet
not the VHS, but some of the MP3s
2006-05-12 13216, 2006
Joan_W
I have got about 1,000 CD's here and I don't know how many have already been entered into the database. If they have, I don't know how many have disc ID's attached. To enter disc ID's, I would have to download Picard wouldn't I and I have tried to steer clear of it so far.
2006-05-12 13239, 2006
Nyght
mb tagger can also submit disc id's Joan
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Joan_W
I did download Picard when I first started, but the damn thing kept crashing, so I uninstalled.
2006-05-12 13207, 2006
Nyght
saxpoet, have you attached puid, or trm to the track you're trying to add?
2006-05-12 13219, 2006
Nyght
Joan, it's much m ore stable now.
2006-05-12 13235, 2006
Nyght
I was impressed, actually it's being very stable for me... (on windowz) though
2006-05-12 13252, 2006
Nyght
winblowz, sorry.. mispelling on that last bit. ;)
2006-05-12 13254, 2006
Joan_W
When I come back from Ireland at the beginning of next month, I will give it another try. I am also on Windows - XP
2006-05-12 13223, 2006
saxpoet
TRM should be there
2006-05-12 13220, 2006
Nyght
Yeah, the last build is really doing well.. I'm even starting to puid my collection.. geh, that's why I was complaining about the analyze bit.. 30,000 tracks being hand clicked for analysis stinks. ;)
2006-05-12 13248, 2006
Nyght
saxpoet: I'll try and drag teleGUISE in here and such, but no promises.
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saxpoet
I believe thatvthis is theonly place that McDowell has recorded Mystery Train for instance
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Joan_W
eeek - and I was worrying about maybe 15-18,000 tracks
2006-05-12 13225, 2006
wolfsong13
Nyght: are the email and #1475 the same thing or something different?
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saxpoet
ty Nyght
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Joan_W
to be exact, 15,969 tracks
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Joan_W
evening yllona
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wolfsong13
hi yllona
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Nyght
1475?
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Nyght
I'm sorry, I'm lost to the reference wolfie
2006-05-12 13219, 2006
yllona
hello joan and wolf, nyght too
2006-05-12 13224, 2006
Nyght
you're welcome saxpoet, no promises, but I mailed him. I wanted to ask him about firefox anyways, so, it's about time we're in the chat room together. :D
After I finish something I can send you a ticket for "edit/cleaning" to let you know it's ready for your pickiness. :D
2006-05-12 13240, 2006
wolfsong13
which i need to powow w/ ruaok and g0llum on the coding aspects
2006-05-12 13244, 2006
Joan_W
just gone up to 15,980 tracks
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Nyght
okay, thanks for pointing that out to me wolife, I'll try and subscribe to it.. I was wondering if there was something like that. I start digging into the wiki's and get lost as to which still need some work and which don't.
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Nyght
Joan 30,134 tracks for me. :)
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Joan_W
How do you catalogue yours?
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wolfsong13
but i would modify 1475 to only cover voting
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wolfsong13
and we'll cover editing in 1364
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wolfsong13
sound good?
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Nyght
and for trac. click one of those nifty links Wolfie tossed up, there's a login button up there somewhere.. and you can register an account.. I think
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Nyght
(I'm so... new to all of this. :D )
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Joan_W
Wolfie - which nifty link please
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Nyght
that works for me. Would you make the change to the ticket?
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Nyght
so I don't mess it up?
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Nyght
How can I make it so I get the information to the changes on this wolfie? "accept ticket"?
2006-05-12 13201, 2006
wolfsong13
Joan_W: ?
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wolfsong13
Nyght: add yourself as a subscriber
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Nyght
She's asking the best way to start into trac, so I can let her know the docs I've worked on and she can look over them and edit them.
