ooh look a torrent release, a p2p version of so & so... look a bunch of tracks hiding on my hard drive.. these all must be labeled so off the MB database they go
2006-05-01 12114, 2006
teleGUISE
Nyght: mentioned that earlier.. its a single track..
2006-05-01 12132, 2006
Nyght
teleGUISE: why go to the trouble? It would be more work to put them in the db and then tag them than it would be to tag them yourself in the beginning?
2006-05-01 12135, 2006
pbryan
Oooh, rhyming?
2006-05-01 12103, 2006
teleGUISE
wait i iz confoozeled.. i thought that was pbryan asking.. and nyght i thought you showed me that earlier
2006-05-01 12111, 2006
Nyght
yeah I know.. I obviously didn't explain it well enough.. and now I'm confused.
2006-05-01 12150, 2006
pbryan
Now so am I.
2006-05-01 12156, 2006
Nyght
I did.... and mo's question has me wondering once more if it should be a bootleg.. since it is technically a bootleg (non band released) but... they recognize it's out there. What's the difference between a bootleg and a non album track in this instance.
2006-05-01 12144, 2006
teleGUISE
so how many people have this like 12? ;)
2006-05-01 12111, 2006
Nyght
LOL um... it went on kazaa... (so Sean says) so I'm imagining a lot more than that.
2006-05-01 12102, 2006
Nyght
it's not where I got it.. :shrugs: but that's where a lot of fans did.
2006-05-01 12105, 2006
teleGUISE
oh i misread that... i saw it say they didnt release it on the web.. and didnt notice the but know about it
2006-05-01 12152, 2006
teleGUISE
well if you didnt get it from there then you must have been the bootlegger that taped it.. so which one are you, huh! ;)
2006-05-01 12156, 2006
Nyght
The band didn't release it (that makes it bootleg) but, the band knows about it (actually I got it from a band member... but, anyhoo..) does that make it non album track, or a single track bootleg?
2006-05-01 12110, 2006
Nyght
:P
2006-05-01 12129, 2006
Nyght
I did it from neither thank you very much! (I didn't hang with LAM in the early days.)
2006-05-01 12141, 2006
teleGUISE
i think we are worrying to deeply about it... :{
2006-05-01 12116, 2006
Nyght
okay..
2006-05-01 12155, 2006
Nyght
doen't much matter, save that it would answer a lot of questions about the rest of the odd tracks I have.
2006-05-01 12113, 2006
teleGUISE
i think [nat] is fine.. is someone going to complain and say it should be titled 199x-xx-xx: Blah Blah, Blah, USA
2006-05-01 12144, 2006
Nyght
LOL I hope not!
2006-05-01 12143, 2006
teleGUISE
i guess the difference is most of that odd stuff like that i have.. i dont even bother adding to MB cuz to me it's not worth it..
2006-05-01 12147, 2006
Nyght
That's why I don't post the m'era luna I have.. cause I don't know the date.
2006-05-01 12122, 2006
Nyght
well like the switchback remixes I know they travel widely among the klayton fans. That would be an add I could easily see as being "worth it"
2006-05-01 12128, 2006
nechto13
i think this would be a NAT. Nyght: what's the alternative? bootleg single?
2006-05-01 12135, 2006
Nyght
carfax abbey isn't really big enough, nor Autumn's descent.
2006-05-01 12148, 2006
Nyght
nechto13: that was sorta my thinking
2006-05-01 12154, 2006
Nyght wrinkles nose
2006-05-01 12106, 2006
Nyght
and it would be a very strange looking bootleg. :D
2006-05-01 12114, 2006
mustaqila
Mornin' Beth
2006-05-01 12119, 2006
teleGUISE
anything but a nat requires some type of title and for what to say this is the only track from a bunch that night
2006-05-01 12120, 2006
Nyght
morning muz
2006-05-01 12155, 2006
Nyght nods to teleguise
2006-05-01 12119, 2006
Nyght
again, that's why I was asking.. because as a bootleg it's not worth it, but as a NAT, I can see someone else having it and utilizing it.
2006-05-01 12114, 2006
Nyght
more often than not I ask questions not "for something" I am putting up, but more for something I am thinking about putting up.
2006-05-01 12138, 2006
Nyght
Like the remix question... back a while ago. Wasn't for that track at all, but for if the Symbiont tracks ever DO get released on disc.
2006-05-01 12146, 2006
nechto13
i've never seen a bootleg single in MB. my mischievous side kind of wants to, but my reasonable side is aftraid of the precedent it might set for other bootleg tracks that infest the dark corners of kazaa world
2006-05-01 12158, 2006
teleGUISE
exactly...
2006-05-01 12159, 2006
Nyght
Not that there's plans to.. but, because it's a curiosity
2006-05-01 12130, 2006
Nyght
agree there nechto13, I prefer a bootleg to be as complete as possible,.
2006-05-01 12132, 2006
teleGUISE
kazaa... do people actually still use that antique network
2006-05-01 12145, 2006
Nyght
I've never used it teleGUISE
2006-05-01 12103, 2006
Nyght
my uncle caught a virus from it and it never interested me.
2006-05-01 12153, 2006
teleGUISE
the infamous 100k exe files claiming to be a full version release of something that catches people when they arent looking and didnt notice the size and run it
2006-05-01 12138, 2006
Nyght
I dunno, he was downloading classical music.. don't know what else he was getting. (don't have a clue why he was.. he's got money to burn)
2006-05-01 12110, 2006
Nyght
maybe pornos?
2006-05-01 12120, 2006
Nyght
I know the virus sent out porno mail to my family!
2006-05-01 12131, 2006
Nyght rolls cause that's still very funny!
2006-05-01 12141, 2006
teleGUISE
well i can see sourcing odd tracks and remixes ... p2p is good for that since you typically cant find or buy many of them
2006-05-01 12132, 2006
teleGUISE
ah ha one of the address book attacher.. obviously he uses Outlook
2006-05-01 12139, 2006
Nyght
That's what I utilized it for a time for... then I ended up getting files that I had done "semi professionally" intermingled in my shares, some pictures got out that I didn't have permission to share and that was the end of that.
2006-05-01 12147, 2006
Nyght
yep
2006-05-01 12157, 2006
Nyght
p2p not kazaa
2006-05-01 12107, 2006
Nyght
I don't think kazaa is p2p is it?
2006-05-01 12113, 2006
teleGUISE
yes
2006-05-01 12119, 2006
Nyght
It was something like.. music somethinorother
2006-05-01 12123, 2006
Nyght
ah.. my bad.
2006-05-01 12130, 2006
catmo
rrrrrrr
2006-05-01 12132, 2006
teleGUISE
though they use a server its still peer to peer
2006-05-01 12137, 2006
Nyght
it was based on music .. and I got some evanescence from it.
2006-05-01 12138, 2006
catmo
hmmm
2006-05-01 12143, 2006
Nyght
morning mo
2006-05-01 12145, 2006
Nyght
or, evening
2006-05-01 12149, 2006
catmo contemplates bacon and eggs
2006-05-01 12152, 2006
catmo
morning!
2006-05-01 12159, 2006
catmo
its only 08:47
2006-05-01 12105, 2006
catmo
I was up at 5:30!
2006-05-01 12114, 2006
catmo
I had lousy sleep an stupid dreams
2006-05-01 12116, 2006
Nyght
ugh!
2006-05-01 12122, 2006
teleGUISE
picking up fish bones ;) ?
2006-05-01 12124, 2006
Nyght
well, it's 12:30 in the night here.. so
2006-05-01 12124, 2006
catmo
its ok, I was glad to wake up
2006-05-01 12139, 2006
catmo
hæ? fish bones?
2006-05-01 12141, 2006
catmo
oh no
2006-05-01 12147, 2006
catmo flips of teleGUISE
2006-05-01 12149, 2006
catmo
:p
2006-05-01 12152, 2006
mustaqila
Mornin mo
2006-05-01 12156, 2006
catmo
hi muz
2006-05-01 12105, 2006
mustaqila cuddles mo, you had a shitty night and I did too
2006-05-01 12109, 2006
catmo
aww
2006-05-01 12128, 2006
teleGUISE
wait muz you said you had a great weekend.. just cant remember much of it though ;)-
2006-05-01 12129, 2006
catmo is hungry thoug (got little food yesterday) noy hungover
2006-05-01 12138, 2006
mustaqila
Sleep isn't included tele
2006-05-01 12144, 2006
catmo
dakar muz
2006-05-01 12151, 2006
mustaqila
going to bed marks the end of a weekend, but I've no clue what time that was ;P
2006-05-01 12132, 2006
catmo away: food
2006-05-01 12102, 2006
Nyght
well, I'm off to sleep night all
2006-05-01 12110, 2006
mustaqila
Night Beth, sleep well
2006-05-01 12112, 2006
Nyght
Nyght is now known as NyghtMARE
2006-05-01 12115, 2006
NyghtMARE
thank you!
2006-05-01 12126, 2006
nechto13
good night NyghtMARE
2006-05-01 12141, 2006
MingVase
G'night Nyght.
2006-05-01 12146, 2006
MingVase
MingVase is now known as MartinRudat
2006-05-01 12137, 2006
teleGUISE
nyght beth...
2006-05-01 12110, 2006
MartinRudat
mustaquila: bed time on a weekend? ... sunrise?
2006-05-01 12128, 2006
teleGUISE
or just to make it blinky ;) g nyght nyghtmare
2006-05-01 12100, 2006
mustaqila
MartinRudat, I know for a fact that Saturday was a sleepless night, but all for good reason, as for Sunday night, that's where the haziness lies
2006-05-01 12154, 2006
MartinRudat
heh. =)
2006-05-01 12126, 2006
nechto13
is there a guideline which says that first name of an artist legal name should be umm first. i'm looking through http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/ArtistName and can't find it there
2006-05-01 12145, 2006
MartinRudat
I shouldn't think so... I'd assumed that the artists name is as they would write it, and the sortname is as how it should be sorted... which doesn't sound too confusing to me...
nechto13: why would their legal name be any different? *shrugs*
2006-05-01 12120, 2006
nechto13
MartinRudat: artists often perform under stage names. but if i tell a newbie that they should put the first name first for the artist name i would like to refer to a guideline
2006-05-01 12135, 2006
nechto13 likes to give out reading materials for others
2006-05-01 12138, 2006
NyghtMARE
NyghtMARE is now known as Nyght
2006-05-01 12124, 2006
nechto13
Nyght: you can't sleep? let me guess Disney is haunting your dreams?
2006-05-01 12132, 2006
MartinRudat
nechto13: you could always just add a statement to that fact on the page, and then say... "see! it says so right there!" *shrug*
2006-05-01 12156, 2006
Nyght
no I can't nechto13, tired sitting up, fully awake laying down.. and I don't think it's Disney.. though, certainly could be.
2006-05-01 12136, 2006
Nyght
a bird of our own looks like a heck of a remix album
2006-05-01 12120, 2006
nechto13
so does video night
2006-05-01 12136, 2006
Nyght
all of them
2006-05-01 12156, 2006
Nyght
have you looked at their other mods?
2006-05-01 12147, 2006
Nyght
nechto13: ?
2006-05-01 12145, 2006
nechto13
Nyght: i'm staying away from them i'm tempted to vote no on all of them and ask to provide proof without doing the research
2006-05-01 12115, 2006
nechto13
i'm trying to clear my subscribed mods so i can help you with Disney
2006-05-01 12118, 2006
Nyght
well... in this instance you're understanding of the language helps greatly. I didn't even realize that was last name first
2006-05-01 12125, 2006
Nyght
and yes, there is sorta a note about that.
2006-05-01 12143, 2006
MartinRudat
...is there anything in the editing guide that says you aught to provide proof with an edit? I can't say as I can recall one way or the other...
2006-05-01 12156, 2006
Nyght
No there isn't
2006-05-01 12103, 2006
Nyght
it's suggested in the wiki a lot.
2006-05-01 12123, 2006
nechto13
MartinRudat: enirely possible that there isn't but it's my voting policy if someone is adding something that looks fishy, maybe i should put it in my profile. i actually reseach most of the stuff i vote on
2006-05-01 12142, 2006
nechto13
zout for instance has a policy of voting no on releases that have no release type or status
2006-05-01 12154, 2006
Nyght
Martin there was a big todo about it in the mailing list.
2006-05-01 12148, 2006
Nyght
I will usually ask, without a response I will go and vote no of course, if I can't find something on it myself.. and I've spent upwards of a half an hour to an hour looking for things.. so, more often than not I will ask for proof on something I'm unsure about.
2006-05-01 12155, 2006
MartinRudat probably should start voting more... but to do it well is lots of work...
2006-05-01 12157, 2006
nechto13 listents to Night on the Highway by Yuri Naumov for the consecutive 10th time
2006-05-01 12108, 2006
Nyght
Martin it is a lot of work. But, we sorta of locally decided (a few of the automoderators and a few non automoderators ) that the add artists since they're a step away from being automodded in are pretty easy to vote yes on all but the obvious ones.. (like the other day we had "beatles" attempted to be added)
2006-05-01 12148, 2006
Nyght
so relative quick yeses there would help a lot.. and it's not too time consuming. That and I try to vote on the removals and moving since that's something automoderators have to have voted on anyways.
2006-05-01 12103, 2006
nechto13
Nyght: Beatles without The? that's horrible :P
2006-05-01 12133, 2006
Nyght
Mmm, specially since they couldn't have even done a search for it.
