but making one up would be silly, 'cause they're bound to get one
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inhouseuk
yup, and the result isn't official yet
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nikki_
that too
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nikki_
I bet they end up wanting their own language too
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nikki_
as if trying to distinguish serbian, macedonian, croatian and bosnian wasn't already hard enough
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inhouseuk
night all
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Shepard
morning
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nikki_
hi!
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MingVase whines... being an idiot hurts. =)
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MingVase
MingVase is now known as MartinRudat
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MartinRudat looks at his leg... bah, no bruise; still hurts, though.
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Shepard
what'd you do?
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nikki_ hasn't know vases that can whine before
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MartinRudat
dropped a (largeish) board on my leg. it hurt a little.
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MartinRudat shrugs. everything's still attached, I'm not bleeding, it just hurts a little still... I shouldn't have had my leg where I could drop the board on it... oh well, I'll be more careful next time. =)
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MartinRudat
...and my mum wonders why I won't wear shorts to work even in mid-summer... =)
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MartinRudat
G'day keschte
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keschte waves
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nikki_
hi keschte
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Shepard
hi keschte
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Shepard
to your email: I noticed the discussion but had no time to take part then :)
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keschte
hi Sim ..eh Shepard
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keschte
hi nikki_
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keschte
np
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keschte
i did not like the ideas they had about overloading album/release even more, so i intervened.
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nikki_
hah
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nikki_
summarised all of the mechanics book into 2 of these little card thingies
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keschte
nikki_, Nyght: mb-users RFV Release
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keschte
but since you probably don't read users, you missed it ;)
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mustaqila
nikki, but how big is the card, and how big is your handwriting? :P
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Nyght
I read users, but I saw the whole, stop shooting, I have more work and ended up not reading into much after that. Reading now
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Nyght
Then again honestly I got slightly soured from the constant negatives without suggestions.. so, took a break from that too.
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mustaqila
I hate it when I wake up and press play on iTunes, but my speakers are both way up from watching something last night
Nyght: now if i get that right, shooting is something i'd do if i were agressive, right?
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keschte
have you seen the emoticon...
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mustaqila
Ah
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keschte
and Nyght: not reading mb-users is perfectly normal, nothing anybody has to explain themselves if they don't
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nikki_
exam time
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nikki_
bye
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mustaqila
Good luck!
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Nyght
good luck nikki
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Nyght
keschte: yes, Frederic stated it, didn't mean he was getting the aggressive end of anything. ;)
2006-05-22 14238, 2006
Nyght
Mmm, but I do try to keep up on users.. I feel that's part of actually keeping in step with a lot of things to do with musicbrainz
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mustaqila
mb-users = drama over emails, where you can watch metaphorical chimpanzees throw their crap at each other, after agreeing on the odd small matter
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mustaqila
That's about as much as I can grasp from it, so I like to avoid reading it :
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mustaqila
)
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keschte
Nyght: experts, development is the lists that matter, imo.
2006-05-22 14205, 2006
keschte
style is very dramatic, too
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Nyght
muz, for the most part I don't agree. I see it as people that are passionate about their hobby, but sometimes forgetting that all negative doesn't create something in the end.
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keschte
mustaqila: a wee bit negative, but one can say that :)
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mustaqila shrugs
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keschte
now that we've agreed that we will calmly put an end to such demanding threads, it should change for the better
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Nyght
I hope so keschte, it's nice to have a "want list" or, a "this would be nice in the future", but ultimately what we can count on is what we have. What we desire, would be nice.. but unless those people are willing to roll up their sleeves, they're not part of the solution.
yes, a very good structure for something like musicbrainz.
2006-05-22 14207, 2006
Nyght
I mean, I can say, this would be nice.. but, if I want to implement it, I have to document and start to put it into order. work along side with the devs, or make my idea catchy enough that it inspires one of the devs. :shrugs:
2006-05-22 14207, 2006
keschte
maybe you've seen it. i ported the documents from the main server to the wiki
i'd be glad if you could review the pages under "Development" and "Products" for spelling, since they will be official wikidocs pages directly linked from the menu on the page
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Nyght
Sure thing. :) I'll do that right now.
2006-05-22 14227, 2006
keschte
just search for the respective terms in the title search. this will turn up all the relevant pages
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Nyght
at the moment I'm just following along the links, then I'll do a broad search
2006-05-22 14230, 2006
keschte
if you find the pages have too few interlinks, we could add more certainly.
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Nyght
so far I'm liking it.. I am a bit web minded, so I'm thinking perhaps a next. but usually on wiki that's not needed at all.
2006-05-22 14253, 2006
Nyght
Still getting used to the wiki mentality.
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Shepard
hmm.. if liner notes say "arranged, mixed & recorded by ..." then I guess I shouldn't use the "arranged" from the composition class, right?
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MartinRudat
wiki mentality? pretty mental, for sure... =)
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Nyght
very mental, nuts all a' ya. ;)
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Nyght
shep, I would take that arragement as composing myself. In the manner of arranging how the piece is going to play out.
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Nyght
keschte: Is this "programmer" reference? In all cases, by doing a plain "checkout" of the appropriate module you retrieve the latest development copy, which will not necessarily be stable. If you want a stable copy, corresponding to a particular release, you'll need to find the correct Subversion tag corresponding to the release you want, then you can then fetch the release in question.
2006-05-22 14201, 2006
Nyght
because it's very confusing to me, but if it's programmer reference, that would explain it. :)
again, it may be very "normal" and therefore just "over my head" in this instance, and that's cool.. but, if it's supposed to be "generally" understood, we have to work on it :D
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keschte
ok.. it needs some understanding how development/release cycles work.
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keschte
there are versions(or tags) of the project in the source control
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Nyght
okay
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keschte
then there is /trunk which is the development copy
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keschte
which is unstable.
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keschte
the version currently on test. is trunk, it could be another named branch, too.
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keschte looks for what he wrote yesterday
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Nyght
So, there's truck, and then there is branches (for lack of a better name) the branch can be checked out. But, the trunk is what is running on test?
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Nyght
/s/truck/trunk/
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Nyght
and checked out, in the form of library type check out? Or?
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MartinRudat
Nyght: you can check out any revision of the entire source-tree, but trunk, and tags/release-whatever are nice names for particular versions.
that helps Martin. Thank you, because tags is also confused with the tagging, tags of music.
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keschte
one can start developing a feature on a branch, then merge the changes back to trunk.
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keschte
thats how it normaly works
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MartinRudat wonders if it would be easier to point at the svn docs... =)
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Nyght
That is a lot more clear keschte, can you shift some of that to the other, I am gettting the most from the first and third paragraph
2006-05-22 14211, 2006
Nyght
Okay, thanks both of you to help clarify.. now, to try and make it clear from the very barest clarity I have. :D
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keschte
but since the pages under Development/ are targetted at developers, that should not be an issue
2006-05-22 14250, 2006
Nyght
That's what I asked in the first place. :D
2006-05-22 14259, 2006
Nyght
so, it doesn't need to be clarified, and can go unchanged.
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MartinRudat wonders if it wouldn't be better to make getting a copy of the unstable releae a little inscrutible... to ward against random people pulling it, then complaining, it won't x, or it won't y... =)
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keschte
i'll move the checking out paragraph below the list of projects
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Nyght
because any dev worth their salt should know exactly what you're talking about.
2006-05-22 14229, 2006
keschte
are you currently editing it?
2006-05-22 14246, 2006
Nyght
Nope, have nothing open in edit mode
2006-05-22 14226, 2006
Nyght
Martin, That's when you have that big stamp in red letters BETA IDIOT!
Nyght: to be stamped on the forehead of someone who complains that there are bugs in the most recently submitted code?
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Nyght
Yes Martin, exactly!
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Nyght
in reverse letters so when they look in the mirror it's plain to see. :D
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MartinRudat
heh. =)
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keschte
lol
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Nyght
okay, so I'm a bit spunky tonight. :) it reminds me of the guy that was asking if Musicbrainz broke up mp3's from a streaming radio, and how might it be gone about to label them.. and I said, hmm,. look up the lyrics on the web, input them into the tag and if you want to split them, edit them and split it.. he said thanks and left rather quickly. :D
2006-05-22 14207, 2006
Nyght
Oh, i should giggle over that.. but, it was sorta amusing at the same time.. I mean, ya know... we said it couldn't do it.. then what do you expact for an answer? Let's get right onto developing it so it can?
2006-05-22 14234, 2006
Nyght
/s/should/shouldn't/
2006-05-22 14209, 2006
Nyght
another quick question keschte, in this sentence excerpt "allows to request" from this sentence (which allows to request data from the RDF web service and look up TRM IDs from WAV audio data.) it allows a user. developer, who is it allowing?
2006-05-22 14203, 2006
MartinRudat
I presume it allows the user, via the client, and the client library... *shrugs*
2006-05-22 14219, 2006
Nyght
I'm assuming that too Martin, but I might as well get it right the first time. :)
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Nyght growls at myself for not making notes about the editing changes
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Nyght
okay, I made it end user, if it turns out it's something else, I'll change it then, or keschte can change it. ;)
