No fair. I can't type middle-dots on my keyboard :(
2006-03-07 06610, 2006
mustaqila
Which OS?
2006-03-07 06614, 2006
BGreeNZ
:'(
2006-03-07 06619, 2006
fuchs
:·)
2006-03-07 06622, 2006
mustaqila
:·)
2006-03-07 06632, 2006
mustaqila
*:'·(
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MBChatLogger
windows == pure evil
2006-03-07 06647, 2006
BGreeNZ
Microsoft Windoze 98SE English
2006-03-07 06652, 2006
fuchs
thought that was altgr-. on every os, but didn't use another os for quite some time ;)
2006-03-07 06654, 2006
mustaqila
Not on Windows
2006-03-07 06609, 2006
mustaqila
Most Windows can muster is AltGr + a/e/i/o/u/4
2006-03-07 06611, 2006
fuchs
BGreeNZ: but compose-.-. works as well ;o)
2006-03-07 06626, 2006
mustaqila
That giving áéíóú€
2006-03-07 06604, 2006
MBChatLogger
I hate the evil empire
2006-03-07 06604, 2006
BGreeNZ
Unfortunately, while using English versions of Microsoft's lame attempts at operating systems, I have grown used to both Alt keys being the same
2006-03-07 06658, 2006
mustaqila
AltGr = Alt + Ctrl on Shitdows
2006-03-07 06630, 2006
BGreeNZ
It's a bit of a PITA when I go to use Debian and the Right-Alt key doesn't behave the way my brain thinks it should :(
2006-03-07 06619, 2006
fuchs
^°o°^
2006-03-07 06645, 2006
BGreeNZ
mustaqila: Alt+Ctrl doesn't work either :(
2006-03-07 06601, 2006
mustaqila
Must be an XP thing
2006-03-07 06608, 2006
fuchs
i'm sure alt-f4 does
2006-03-07 06630, 2006
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mustaqila
You want Ctrl+Z
2006-03-07 06638, 2006
mustaqila
Or was it Alt+Z
2006-03-07 06647, 2006
BGreeNZ
fuchs: nice try.
2006-03-07 06617, 2006
fuchs
BGreeNZ: 5 years ago you could always see a handful of people quitting when saying something like this ;)
2006-03-07 06619, 2006
fuchs
the realy evil thing was telling a linux newbie to fix his system with rm -rf / though ;)
2006-03-07 06637, 2006
BGreeNZ
Heh. We put that up as a cheat-code for Windows Solitare in the school computer lab about then too ;-)
2006-03-07 06604, 2006
BGreeNZ
IIRC, the cheat code for Lemmings (yes, we had Lemmings installed on the school computers) was Ctrl-Alt-Delete
2006-03-07 06607, 2006
mustaqila remembers the day of "hacking" the school network
2006-03-07 06623, 2006
mustaqila
We set up a new username and put Counterstrike on it, so we coul dhave LAN games during lunch
2006-03-07 06632, 2006
mustaqila
Then they "upgraded" to XP T_T
2006-03-07 06601, 2006
BGreeNZ
We played deathmatch DoomII and Descent. I would get sick of being blasted to pieces, though
2006-03-07 06630, 2006
mustaqila
Best game was "how to get aruond the internet filter and look at porn just to show that we can"
2006-03-07 06603, 2006
mustaqila
That game never got old, because everytime we'd get caught, we'd start a new game of it : P
2006-03-07 06609, 2006
BGreeNZ
I didn't have the ability to practise at home. For some reason, Doom and Descent wouldn't run on a '286 :(
2006-03-07 06632, 2006
BGreeNZ
I / we would spend most of our lunchtimes staring at a blue Turbo Pascal IDE, though ;-)
2006-03-07 06637, 2006
mustaqila
When the school clamped down on "computer abuse" at lunch times we spent the hour moping about corridors or being a general pain the arse to any staff heh
2006-03-07 06628, 2006
BGreeNZ
Ah, the good old days... :-)
2006-03-07 06643, 2006
BGreeNZ
Back when any half-decent program offered full keyboard access.
2006-03-07 06635, 2006
BGreeNZ despises using the mouse when he *should* be able to accomplish the same thing faster with the keyboard
2006-03-07 06653, 2006
BGreeNZ hates GUI programs that have no keyboard accelerators for their controls, ad-hoc (i.e. default) tab-order, or (worse) controls *missing* from the tab-order
2006-03-07 06647, 2006
mustaqila
I got awfuuly annoyed in ICT "lessons"
2006-03-07 06601, 2006
mustaqila
And the "to copy it select it, go to the Edit menu, and press Copy"
2006-03-07 06602, 2006
BGreeNZ
ICT?
2006-03-07 06605, 2006
mustaqila
Ctrl+C plz
2006-03-07 06615, 2006
mustaqila
Information and Communication Technologies
2006-03-07 06641, 2006
mustaqila
Just basic use of computers and implementation is a business situation
2006-03-07 06627, 2006
BGreeNZ
Ctrl-Z, Ctrl-X, Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V are completely illogical with a dvorak keyboard layout :-(
2006-03-07 06653, 2006
mustaqila licks Shift+Insert
2006-03-07 06611, 2006
mustaqila wonders what's on his clipboard
2006-03-07 06654, 2006
mustaqila
Hmm, best no posted here
2006-03-07 06658, 2006
mustaqila
*not
2006-03-07 06608, 2006
BGreeNZ
I remember Alt-Backspace, Shift-Delete, Ctrl-Insert, and Shift-Insert
2006-03-07 06622, 2006
mustaqila
MBChatLogger: off
2006-03-07 06622, 2006
MBChatLogger
is not logging
2006-03-07 06634, 2006
MBChatLogger
is logging
2006-03-07 06607, 2006
BGreeNZ
They all still work, too!
2006-03-07 06625, 2006
BGreeNZ <3 Windows 1.0 legacy
2006-03-07 06611, 2006
BGreeNZ
And MS-DOS 5 Editor, Turbo Pascal 6+, etc
2006-03-07 06643, 2006
BGreeNZ
IIRC, my first introduction to those legacy clipboard keys was <gags> QBasic and <chokes> Windows 3.0
2006-03-07 06612, 2006
MBChatLogger
I hate the evil empire
2006-03-07 06612, 2006
BGreeNZ
oh, and <pukes> Microsoft Word for Windows 1.0 :)
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BGreeNZ
Imagine running *that* under Windows 3.0 (or 3.1) on a 16MHz '286 with 1MB RAM and a Stacker4'd 40MB hard disk ;-)
2006-03-07 06658, 2006
BGreeNZ
I think I went and installed every single font that comes with Windows '95 on it, too. Took about 5-10 minutes just to boot Windows into Program Manager, then about the same time again to load WinWord
2006-03-07 06656, 2006
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BGreeNZ
Damn, looks like I killed the chat :(
2006-03-07 06619, 2006
mustaqila is playing RO... again
2006-03-07 06635, 2006
HairMetalAddict is playing "Save the World, Neuter a MySpacer"... again
2006-03-07 06657, 2006
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mustaqila
I did some profound thinking earlier whilst taking a piss
2006-03-07 06658, 2006
mustaqila
It seems makind is fucked
2006-03-07 06601, 2006
mustaqila
*mankind
2006-03-07 06620, 2006
mustaqila
The whole breeding and survival of fittest etc, well look at the chavs and emos multiplying like whoa
2006-03-07 06621, 2006
mustaqila
:/
2006-03-07 06648, 2006
mustaqila
In 15 years time the world will be overpopulated with vain teenagers out to get a shag amongst their illiterate peers
2006-03-07 06640, 2006
HairMetalAddict
There will be no new laws because these people wouldn't be able to actually write one.
2006-03-07 06607, 2006
mustaqila
The world will be reduced to MySpace Netiquette
2006-03-07 06616, 2006
mustaqila
"U dint add me bak!!"?!? I h8 no!"
2006-03-07 06606, 2006
HairMetalAddict
Mmm, lots of people destined to become professional... grocery baggers.
2006-03-07 06627, 2006
mustaqila
If even that
2006-03-07 06607, 2006
HairMetalAddict
(or some other job where the ability to write a complete sentence isn't required)
2006-03-07 06632, 2006
HairMetalAddict
"You must be a moron to think they are hardcore. When did hardcore cease to be punk rock? They are tech metal. And for those who called it grind, you are morons as well."
2006-03-07 06602, 2006
HairMetalAddict
Bonehead actually replied saying he didn't do anything wrong when I sent him a warning for putting that in a wiki.
2006-03-07 06612, 2006
mustaqila
"tech metal"
2006-03-07 06616, 2006
mustaqila
I hate that term
2006-03-07 06631, 2006
mustaqila
It's a lame excuse for "uncreative fuckwads that just mash random notes together and scream, then hope for the best"
2006-03-07 06603, 2006
mustaqila
Oh and also rely upon the unwavering sheep mentality of retarded 14 year olds who'll all flock to buy it because they saw it on MySpace
2006-03-07 06630, 2006
HairMetalAddict
I hate all these 50 million genres, so I have my own 3 classifications: "Hair Metal", "Not hair metal but okay", and "All that other crap"
2006-03-07 06600, 2006
mustaqila
"good" "shit" "tolerable" is how things work within my mind
2006-03-07 06609, 2006
HairMetalAddict
And conveniently, those are also proper artist descriptions for a wiki in the mind of a MySpacer! :-P
2006-03-07 06604, 2006
mustaqila
I know not to publicise those views in the wrong place though
2006-03-07 06642, 2006
HairMetalAddict
I know. It was just such an obvious joke, and being in my pre-coffee mode, I can only make obvious jokes. ;-)
2006-03-07 06620, 2006
mustaqila
Coffee, sustainer of life, humour and sanity
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SenRepus
Thanks for the add!
2006-03-07 06626, 2006
SenRepus
myspace isnt ALL bad
2006-03-07 06656, 2006
mustaqila
The majority is though
2006-03-07 06636, 2006
SenRepus
amidst all the peds, crappy bands, emo kids, and friend whores, theres a The Faint group.
2006-03-07 06642, 2006
SenRepus
through which i got ahold of a live DVD of them
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BGreeNZ
Has anyone had any luck getting Picard 0.6.0 working under Win98SE or WinME?
2006-03-07 06625, 2006
SenRepus
yea it works on ME
2006-03-07 06628, 2006
SenRepus
for ... me
2006-03-07 06606, 2006
BGreeNZ
TAGGER caused an invalid page fault in module MSVCR71.DLL at 0187:7c350513.
2006-03-07 06643, 2006
BGreeNZ
SenRepus: How long ago did you download it?
2006-03-07 06652, 2006
SenRepus
its actually not installed since i reformted
2006-03-07 06623, 2006
SenRepus
im pretty sure i got the same DLL error with the last version when i tried to install it shortly after my previous two reformats
2006-03-07 06634, 2006
SenRepus
i know it was MSVCR33.dll
2006-03-07 06640, 2006
SenRepus
## not 33
2006-03-07 06609, 2006
SenRepus
i talked with luks about it and he said he knew of no fix for it
2006-03-07 06626, 2006
SenRepus
eventually installing just worked for me... no apparent reason why
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BGreeNZ
Do you remember what version you were using?
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SenRepus
i think it was 5.0
2006-03-07 06657, 2006
SenRepus
and possibly the version before 5.0
2006-03-07 06606, 2006
SenRepus
i just installed and started 6.0 with no problems
2006-03-07 06611, 2006
g0llum
moin
2006-03-07 06625, 2006
BGreeNZ
You mean 0.5.0?
2006-03-07 06655, 2006
BGreeNZ
So you have just now downloaded, installed, and run Picard 0.6.0 with no problems?
2006-03-07 06605, 2006
SenRepus
sure
2006-03-07 06618, 2006
SenRepus
no i used an old isntall file
2006-03-07 06639, 2006
SenRepus
this was like 6 months ago, when i had that problem
2006-03-07 06645, 2006
SenRepus
i think
2006-03-07 06647, 2006
SenRepus
not to be rude but I have to get to bed here real quick
2006-03-07 06600, 2006
SenRepus
getting tired of goign to work dead ... tired...
2006-03-07 06619, 2006
BGreeNZ
What is the exact filesize of the installer you used? The one I have (which isn't working) is picard-setup-0.6.0.exe (4,865,461 bytes)
2006-03-07 06652, 2006
SenRepus
mines the same
2006-03-07 06620, 2006
SenRepus
created feb. 4th
2006-03-07 06629, 2006
SenRepus
i donno if thats when i downloaded it or when they made it
2006-03-07 06655, 2006
SenRepus
my other installer for 0.5.0 is from november
2006-03-07 06604, 2006
SenRepus
so i think thats too new for this problem
2006-03-07 06629, 2006
BGreeNZ
That'll be the date the file was created on your computer, so the date you downloaded it.
2006-03-07 06613, 2006
BGreeNZ
Mine was created (downloaded) 15 Feb, so they must be identical
2006-03-07 06620, 2006
BGreeNZ
SenRepus: Thanks for the help, I'll let you get to bed now.
2006-03-07 06620, 2006
BGreeNZ
One other thing, while I think about it, do you have any standalone versions of Python installed on your computer?
2006-03-07 06654, 2006
SenRepus
i only have windows ME
2006-03-07 06656, 2006
BGreeNZ
not that I expect it should make much difference, of course
2006-03-07 06604, 2006
SenRepus
er wait
2006-03-07 06613, 2006
SenRepus
python is programing not OS... uh no, heh
2006-03-07 06647, 2006
SenRepus
i honestly dont know what fixed the problem. its like updating a certain thing or installing something alters the DLL and makes the program run
2006-03-07 06610, 2006
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BGreeNZ
Oh well. Do you know anyone else I can ask about this problem?
2006-03-07 06639, 2006
SenRepus
well you can talk to luks but he plainly told me that he knew of no way to fix this, and from the way it sounded i dont think he thought there even was a way to fix it
