No fair. I can't type middle-dots on my keyboard :(
mustaqila
Which OS?
BGreeNZ
:'(
fuchs
:·)
mustaqila
:·)
*:'·(
MBChatLogger
windows == pure evil
BGreeNZ
Microsoft Windoze 98SE English
fuchs
thought that was altgr-. on every os, but didn't use another os for quite some time ;)
mustaqila
Not on Windows
Most Windows can muster is AltGr + a/e/i/o/u/4
fuchs
BGreeNZ: but compose-.-. works as well ;o)
mustaqila
That giving áéíóú€
MBChatLogger
I hate the evil empire
BGreeNZ
Unfortunately, while using English versions of Microsoft's lame attempts at operating systems, I have grown used to both Alt keys being the same
mustaqila
AltGr = Alt + Ctrl on Shitdows
BGreeNZ
It's a bit of a PITA when I go to use Debian and the Right-Alt key doesn't behave the way my brain thinks it should :(
fuchs
^°o°^
BGreeNZ
mustaqila: Alt+Ctrl doesn't work either :(
mustaqila
Must be an XP thing
fuchs
i'm sure alt-f4 does
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mustaqila
You want Ctrl+Z
Or was it Alt+Z
BGreeNZ
fuchs: nice try.
fuchs
BGreeNZ: 5 years ago you could always see a handful of people quitting when saying something like this ;)
the realy evil thing was telling a linux newbie to fix his system with rm -rf / though ;)
BGreeNZ
Heh. We put that up as a cheat-code for Windows Solitare in the school computer lab about then too ;-)
IIRC, the cheat code for Lemmings (yes, we had Lemmings installed on the school computers) was Ctrl-Alt-Delete
mustaqila remembers the day of "hacking" the school network
mustaqila
We set up a new username and put Counterstrike on it, so we coul dhave LAN games during lunch
Then they "upgraded" to XP T_T
BGreeNZ
We played deathmatch DoomII and Descent. I would get sick of being blasted to pieces, though
mustaqila
Best game was "how to get aruond the internet filter and look at porn just to show that we can"
That game never got old, because everytime we'd get caught, we'd start a new game of it : P
BGreeNZ
I didn't have the ability to practise at home. For some reason, Doom and Descent wouldn't run on a '286 :(
I / we would spend most of our lunchtimes staring at a blue Turbo Pascal IDE, though ;-)
mustaqila
When the school clamped down on "computer abuse" at lunch times we spent the hour moping about corridors or being a general pain the arse to any staff heh
BGreeNZ
Ah, the good old days... :-)
Back when any half-decent program offered full keyboard access.
BGreeNZ despises using the mouse when he *should* be able to accomplish the same thing faster with the keyboard
BGreeNZ hates GUI programs that have no keyboard accelerators for their controls, ad-hoc (i.e. default) tab-order, or (worse) controls *missing* from the tab-order
mustaqila
I got awfuuly annoyed in ICT "lessons"
And the "to copy it select it, go to the Edit menu, and press Copy"
BGreeNZ
ICT?
mustaqila
Ctrl+C plz
Information and Communication Technologies
Just basic use of computers and implementation is a business situation
BGreeNZ
Ctrl-Z, Ctrl-X, Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V are completely illogical with a dvorak keyboard layout :-(
mustaqila licks Shift+Insert
mustaqila wonders what's on his clipboard
mustaqila
Hmm, best no posted here
*not
BGreeNZ
I remember Alt-Backspace, Shift-Delete, Ctrl-Insert, and Shift-Insert
mustaqila
MBChatLogger: off
MBChatLogger
is not logging
is logging
BGreeNZ
They all still work, too!
BGreeNZ <3 Windows 1.0 legacy
And MS-DOS 5 Editor, Turbo Pascal 6+, etc
IIRC, my first introduction to those legacy clipboard keys was <gags> QBasic and <chokes> Windows 3.0
MBChatLogger
I hate the evil empire
BGreeNZ
oh, and <pukes> Microsoft Word for Windows 1.0 :)
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Imagine running *that* under Windows 3.0 (or 3.1) on a 16MHz '286 with 1MB RAM and a Stacker4'd 40MB hard disk ;-)
I think I went and installed every single font that comes with Windows '95 on it, too. Took about 5-10 minutes just to boot Windows into Program Manager, then about the same time again to load WinWord
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mustaqila is playing RO... again
HairMetalAddict is playing "Save the World, Neuter a MySpacer"... again
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mustaqila
I did some profound thinking earlier whilst taking a piss
It seems makind is fucked
*mankind
The whole breeding and survival of fittest etc, well look at the chavs and emos multiplying like whoa
:/
In 15 years time the world will be overpopulated with vain teenagers out to get a shag amongst their illiterate peers
HairMetalAddict
There will be no new laws because these people wouldn't be able to actually write one.
mustaqila
The world will be reduced to MySpace Netiquette
"U dint add me bak!!"?!? I h8 no!"
HairMetalAddict
Mmm, lots of people destined to become professional... grocery baggers.
mustaqila
If even that
HairMetalAddict
(or some other job where the ability to write a complete sentence isn't required)
"You must be a moron to think they are hardcore. When did hardcore cease to be punk rock? They are tech metal. And for those who called it grind, you are morons as well."
Bonehead actually replied saying he didn't do anything wrong when I sent him a warning for putting that in a wiki.
mustaqila
"tech metal"
I hate that term
It's a lame excuse for "uncreative fuckwads that just mash random notes together and scream, then hope for the best"
Oh and also rely upon the unwavering sheep mentality of retarded 14 year olds who'll all flock to buy it because they saw it on MySpace
HairMetalAddict
I hate all these 50 million genres, so I have my own 3 classifications: "Hair Metal", "Not hair metal but okay", and "All that other crap"
mustaqila
"good" "shit" "tolerable" is how things work within my mind
HairMetalAddict
And conveniently, those are also proper artist descriptions for a wiki in the mind of a MySpacer! :-P
mustaqila
I know not to publicise those views in the wrong place though
HairMetalAddict
I know. It was just such an obvious joke, and being in my pre-coffee mode, I can only make obvious jokes. ;-)
mustaqila
Coffee, sustainer of life, humour and sanity
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SenRepus
Thanks for the add!
myspace isnt ALL bad
mustaqila
The majority is though
SenRepus
amidst all the peds, crappy bands, emo kids, and friend whores, theres a The Faint group.
through which i got ahold of a live DVD of them
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BGreeNZ
Has anyone had any luck getting Picard 0.6.0 working under Win98SE or WinME?
SenRepus
yea it works on ME
for ... me
BGreeNZ
TAGGER caused an invalid page fault in module MSVCR71.DLL at 0187:7c350513.
SenRepus: How long ago did you download it?
SenRepus
its actually not installed since i reformted
im pretty sure i got the same DLL error with the last version when i tried to install it shortly after my previous two reformats
i know it was MSVCR33.dll
## not 33
i talked with luks about it and he said he knew of no fix for it
eventually installing just worked for me... no apparent reason why
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BGreeNZ
Do you remember what version you were using?
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SenRepus
i think it was 5.0
and possibly the version before 5.0
i just installed and started 6.0 with no problems
g0llum
moin
BGreeNZ
You mean 0.5.0?
So you have just now downloaded, installed, and run Picard 0.6.0 with no problems?
SenRepus
sure
no i used an old isntall file
this was like 6 months ago, when i had that problem
i think
not to be rude but I have to get to bed here real quick
getting tired of goign to work dead ... tired...
BGreeNZ
What is the exact filesize of the installer you used? The one I have (which isn't working) is picard-setup-0.6.0.exe (4,865,461 bytes)
SenRepus
mines the same
created feb. 4th
i donno if thats when i downloaded it or when they made it
my other installer for 0.5.0 is from november
so i think thats too new for this problem
BGreeNZ
That'll be the date the file was created on your computer, so the date you downloaded it.
Mine was created (downloaded) 15 Feb, so they must be identical
SenRepus: Thanks for the help, I'll let you get to bed now.
One other thing, while I think about it, do you have any standalone versions of Python installed on your computer?
SenRepus
i only have windows ME
BGreeNZ
not that I expect it should make much difference, of course
SenRepus
er wait
python is programing not OS... uh no, heh
i honestly dont know what fixed the problem. its like updating a certain thing or installing something alters the DLL and makes the program run
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BGreeNZ
Oh well. Do you know anyone else I can ask about this problem?
SenRepus
well you can talk to luks but he plainly told me that he knew of no way to fix this, and from the way it sounded i dont think he thought there even was a way to fix it