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      • fuchs
        ah, then drag it from there to the album in the Albums folder

        • 2006-03-15 07436, 2006

      • fuchs
        like in step 5

        • 2006-03-15 07418, 2006

      • fctk
        i'm trying to make the screenshot

        • 2006-03-15 07425, 2006

      • fuchs
        k

        • 2006-03-15 07414, 2006

      • fuchs
        fuchs has changed the topic to: http://musicbrainz.org/ | There are HowTos that need writing @ http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/HowTo

        • 2006-03-15 07418, 2006

      • DivideByO
        anyone experienced problems with re-identifying files after stripping all the id3 tags with an external program like id3kill?

        • 2006-03-15 07445, 2006

      • fuchs
        never tried, why would i want to do that? ;)

        • 2006-03-15 07409, 2006

      • DivideByO
        for example, i identified an album with the normal tagger, and every song had a 99-100% matching score. then i stripped all the tags with id3kill, and after a second pass with the tagger, the scores dropped to 45-50%

        • 2006-03-15 07425, 2006

      • DivideByO
        it was just an experiment :)

        • 2006-03-15 07447, 2006

      • Russss
        the normal tagger uses text-matching to augment the scores.

        • 2006-03-15 07449, 2006

      • fuchs
        "the normal tagger" = the old windows tagger?

        • 2006-03-15 07455, 2006

      • DivideByO
        fuchs: yes.

        • 2006-03-15 07400, 2006

      • fuchs
        see Russss ;)

        • 2006-03-15 07405, 2006

      • fuchs
        sssssssssssssss

        • 2006-03-15 07427, 2006

      • fuchs is feeling like a snake when reading the nick :)

        • 2006-03-15 07455, 2006

      • DivideByO
        and picard uses only the audio fingerprint?

        • 2006-03-15 07402, 2006

      • fuchs
        no

        • 2006-03-15 07404, 2006

      • fctk is recompiling imagemagick with png use flag

        • 2006-03-15 07450, 2006

      • giacomitti
        The server is up again?

        • 2006-03-15 07406, 2006

      • fctk must have lunch...

        • 2006-03-15 07419, 2006

      • fuchs
        gia, yes

        • 2006-03-15 07445, 2006

      • giacomitti
        humm, the picard always showing "loading album information"....

        • 2006-03-15 07404, 2006

      • alfzer0
        DivideBy0: i believe picard .6 and before used text seraching exclusively, and .7 will use both though I wish i knew exactly how

        • 2006-03-15 07433, 2006

      • inhouseuk
        alfzer0: that is correct

        • 2006-03-15 07437, 2006

      • fuchs
        right

        • 2006-03-15 07442, 2006

      • fuchs
        alfzer0: you can read the code :)

        • 2006-03-15 07445, 2006

      • DivideByO
        ok, thanks

        • 2006-03-15 07453, 2006

      • ruaok
        grrr.

        • 2006-03-15 07406, 2006

      • ruaok
        fracking server crashed on us again. Stupid RAID card.

        • 2006-03-15 07417, 2006

      • alfzer0
        hahahaha, if i could read code well i would

        • 2006-03-15 07422, 2006

      • alfzer0
        shoulda stayed in school

        • 2006-03-15 07428, 2006

      • inhouseuk
        ruaok: lingling?

        • 2006-03-15 07433, 2006

      • ruaok
        yep

        • 2006-03-15 07452, 2006

      • ruaok
        and our janky load balancing tipped over when it died.

        • 2006-03-15 07456, 2006

      • ruaok
        so I took it out for now.

        • 2006-03-15 07414, 2006

      • ruaok
        out load it not high enough to warrant two mirror DBS atm anyway.

        • 2006-03-15 07419, 2006

      • ruaok
        one will work fine for now.

        • 2006-03-15 07434, 2006

      • ruaok
        once I get home I will rip out the RAID card, move FTP to oregon

        • 2006-03-15 07448, 2006

      • ruaok
        and then reload it as a non-RAID DB mirror

        • 2006-03-15 07405, 2006

      • inhouseuk
        sounds sensible

        • 2006-03-15 07408, 2006

      • ruaok is miffed he spent $250 on the raid card

        • 2006-03-15 07414, 2006

      • ruaok
        ebay, I guess

        • 2006-03-15 07439, 2006

      • ruaok has quit

        • 2006-03-15 07414, 2006

      • Shepard
        Russss: nice updates

        • 2006-03-15 07459, 2006

      • ngw has quit

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      • ruaok joined the channel

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      • inhouseuk
        ruaok: can you fix the permissions on replication-1860.tar.bz2 and replication-1861.tar.bz2 they're unreadable at the moment

        • 2006-03-15 07424, 2006

      • alfzer0
        grr, libofa doesn't want to generate the configure/install scripts correctly

        • 2006-03-15 07430, 2006

      • ruaok goes to do that

        • 2006-03-15 07410, 2006

      • ruaok
        inhouseuk: try again please.

        • 2006-03-15 07423, 2006

      • ruaok moves to the restaurant where he found a power plug

        • 2006-03-15 07404, 2006

      • inhouseuk
        much better :)

        • 2006-03-15 07445, 2006

      • dseomn
        is anybody here familiar with http://musicbrainz.org/artist/1ea1fcdd-d676-4b78-… ?

        • 2006-03-15 07402, 2006

      • dseomn
        I think http://www.jamendo.com/us/artist/nexus/ is a different nexus, but I'm not sure

        • 2006-03-15 07432, 2006

      • fctk
        fuchs, http://www.webalice.it/mrslindop/fluxbox-fctk-200… [at 193942.png]

        • 2006-03-15 07435, 2006

      • fuchs
        fctk: yep, drag the album from "Album clusers" to the album in "Albums"

        • 2006-03-15 07453, 2006

      • fctk
        aaahh

        • 2006-03-15 07406, 2006

      • fctk
        everything is red now

        • 2006-03-15 07421, 2006

      • fuchs
        red squares?

        • 2006-03-15 07431, 2006

      • fctk
        red background

        • 2006-03-15 07436, 2006

      • fuchs
        background?

        • 2006-03-15 07437, 2006

      • fctk
        as the picture in step 6

        • 2006-03-15 07441, 2006

      • yllona joined the channel

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      • ruaok
        hi yllona

        • 2006-03-15 07450, 2006

      • fuchs
        ah, ok ;)

        • 2006-03-15 07456, 2006

      • fuchs
        yeah, now you can save :)

        • 2006-03-15 07426, 2006

      • yllona
        'lo ru! how's the festival?

        • 2006-03-15 07455, 2006

      • ruaok
        I haven't seen shit other than the trade show so far.

        • 2006-03-15 07407, 2006

      • ruaok
        but the music festival starts today.

        • 2006-03-15 07425, 2006

      • ruaok
        no tradeshow today, so I will get to relax and babysit the site a little

        • 2006-03-15 07433, 2006

      • fctk
        fuchs, it seems it works

        • 2006-03-15 07437, 2006

      • yllona
        ah, there is fantastic film there could check it out for me?

        • 2006-03-15 07447, 2006

      • ruaok
        I'll try and catch a few shows later this week

        • 2006-03-15 07454, 2006

      • fctk
        but how can i be sure it tagged everything ok?

        • 2006-03-15 07459, 2006

      • ruaok
        no promises. which one?

        • 2006-03-15 07406, 2006

      • fctk
        tracks in right order for example

        • 2006-03-15 07416, 2006

      • yllona
        ru: http://www.beforethemusicdies.com/

        • 2006-03-15 07442, 2006

      • fuchs
        fctk: you can check it before saving by going through the single files and compare the info in the "Local Metadata" (teh current tags of the file) and "MusicBrainz Metadata" (the data from the server) tabs

        • 2006-03-15 07440, 2006

      • fctk
        i'd like in particular to check the song duration

        • 2006-03-15 07445, 2006

      • fuchs
        fctk: but this should always be correct. If picard isn't "sure" which file belongs to which track data, it will put them in a small subfolder below the album in "Albums" (as I described above)

        • 2006-03-15 07411, 2006

      • nikki_
        mustaqila: shall we go storm some demon building and demand they fix it?

        • 2006-03-15 07426, 2006

      • fctk
        if my track is 3:43 seconds long, and the related one on mb is 3:45 long, it should alert me

        • 2006-03-15 07434, 2006

      • mustaqila
        Lead the way!

        • 2006-03-15 07457, 2006

      • nikki_ grins

        • 2006-03-15 07403, 2006

      • nikki_
        hmm... where are we going? :D

        • 2006-03-15 07405, 2006

      • fuchs
        fctk: not really - 2 secs difference can be the result of the ripping process

        • 2006-03-15 07410, 2006

      • mustaqila
        I'm not too sure :\

        • 2006-03-15 07426, 2006

      • fctk
        fuchs, i know, but i should be informed

        • 2006-03-15 07428, 2006

      • DivideByO
        maybe it's trailing silence that has been removed.

        • 2006-03-15 07435, 2006

      • DivideByO
        it's extremely common.

        • 2006-03-15 07437, 2006

      • azertus joined the channel

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      • fctk
        ok 2 secs is ok, but 10 secs is not ok

        • 2006-03-15 07406, 2006

      • fuchs
        fctk: you see the indicator on the left of each track, it gets more red the more the MB and your local data differ

        • 2006-03-15 07431, 2006

      • fctk
        i have something as 50-55%

        • 2006-03-15 07434, 2006

      • fuchs
        fctk: i think with 10 secs difference picard would have automatically associated the file with the track data

        • 2006-03-15 07435, 2006

      • yllona
        ru: here's the SXSW screening schedule for the film: http://2006.sxsw.com/film/screenings/film/F2824.h…

        • 2006-03-15 07456, 2006

      • fuchs
        fctk: wouldn't ;)

        • 2006-03-15 07423, 2006

      • fctk
        so can i trust picard?

        • 2006-03-15 07453, 2006

      • fctk
        maybe i only need to get used to it

        • 2006-03-15 07405, 2006

      • fuchs
        fctk: you will learn to trust it after playing a bit more :)

        • 2006-03-15 07410, 2006

      • fctk
        ok

        • 2006-03-15 07429, 2006

      • fctk
        anyway, using picard is *far* faster then tagging everything manually

        • 2006-03-15 07439, 2006

      • fuchs
        fctk: try for example tracks with no tags, you'll see that picard won't do anything automatic for them, and you are on the safe side :)

        • 2006-03-15 07403, 2006

      • fctk
        the album i just tagged was without any tag

        • 2006-03-15 07409, 2006

      • fctk
        it was a test album

        • 2006-03-15 07423, 2006

      • fuchs
        fctk: hmm, there seem to have been some tags, otherwise picard wouldn't have known the album name in the album clusters folder for example

        • 2006-03-15 07440, 2006

      • fuchs
        maybe they didn't have id3v2 but old id3v1 tags?

        • 2006-03-15 07441, 2006

      • DivideByO
        mmh.. the windows tagger replaces '...' in track/album names with nothing (not even a space). :(

        • 2006-03-15 07402, 2006

      • fctk
        fuchs, dunno... how can i check?

        • 2006-03-15 07432, 2006

      • azertus
        can someone check what you get when trying to edit the annotation on http://musicbrainz.org/album/d7728e5c-14e1-43f1-8… ?

        • 2006-03-15 07456, 2006

      • luks
        hmmm, "Warning: Someone else is currently editing this annotation. Please try again later."

        • 2006-03-15 07405, 2006

      • Shepard confuses fuchs and fctk

        • 2006-03-15 07408, 2006

      • fuchs
        fctk: which operating system?

        • 2006-03-15 07413, 2006

      • fctk
        gentoo linux

        • 2006-03-15 07424, 2006

      • azertus
        with me, apparently it contains the html of the edit page... :s

        • 2006-03-15 07427, 2006

      • HairMetalAddict
        Wow..., where'd that annotation come from...

        • 2006-03-15 07433, 2006

      • fuchs
        there are a lot of small command line tools taht show you the tags

        • 2006-03-15 07437, 2006

      • azertus
        all other annotations work though...

        • 2006-03-15 07451, 2006

      • luks
        hm, where is g0llum?

        • 2006-03-15 07452, 2006

      • fuchs
        like id3v2 and id3

        • 2006-03-15 07436, 2006

      • fctk
        ok

        • 2006-03-15 07406, 2006

      • luks
        aha, the problem is in one missing "

        • 2006-03-15 07450, 2006

      • luks telepathically slaps g0llum :p

        • 2006-03-15 07405, 2006

      • hawke joined the channel

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      • fuchs
        luks: do you know who or what changed the look of topmods.html?

        • 2006-03-15 07438, 2006

      • luks
        no

        • 2006-03-15 07447, 2006

      • ruaok
        g0llum did.

        • 2006-03-15 07406, 2006

      • ruaok
        I should've not reused that style for the search results.

        • 2006-03-15 07407, 2006

      • azertus
        lol

        • 2006-03-15 07414, 2006

      • Shepard
        I thought it was ruaok's fault ;)

        • 2006-03-15 07415, 2006

      • fuchs
        just wondering, the file wasn't changed, but g0llum played around with the css

        • 2006-03-15 07422, 2006

      • ruaok
        I'll fix that and change topmods back

        • 2006-03-15 07432, 2006

      • fuchs
        ah, ok :)

        • 2006-03-15 07405, 2006

      • fuchs
        http://musicbrainz.org/search.html the topmost elements in Search look a bit strangely aligned, too :)

        • 2006-03-15 07420, 2006

      • fuchs
        but the results page is kewl :)

        • 2006-03-15 07450, 2006

      • fctk
        mmh...

        • 2006-03-15 07414, 2006

      • fctk
        with the id3v2 --list command i discovered the original files have both version 2 and 1

        • 2006-03-15 07452, 2006

      • _Lexus has quit

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      • fuchs
        you can use id3v2 to delete either or both

        • 2006-03-15 07455, 2006

      • fctk
        should check again

        • 2006-03-15 07412, 2006

      • jellyfish has quit

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      • zout
        hmm

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      • ChrisBradley has quit

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      • ChrisBradley joined the channel

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      • ruaok
        what zout ?

        • 2006-03-15 07431, 2006

      • zout
        and indexed search for 'Smartlappen Top 100 (disc 3' does not give anything...

        • 2006-03-15 07439, 2006

      • fctk
        mmh... found the problem

        • 2006-03-15 07447, 2006

      • ruaok
        zout, that gets updated only once a day right now.

        • 2006-03-15 07449, 2006

      • luks
        ruaok: could you update /htdocs/edit/annotation/album/edit.html from CVS, please?

        • 2006-03-15 07453, 2006

      • fctk
        i use exfalso for tagging files