#musicbrainz

luks: i don't understand the difference between lib<insert-a-name-here> and libtunepimp :)

luks: what's a tagging lib other than a reader/writer for metadata?

my idea is to split libtunepimp into two libraries

so libtunepimp would use lib<insert-a-name-here>

and what would libtunepimps job then?

+be

non-blocking API, metadata lookups, filename generating, ...

but someone need to write a C client for the new WS

ah, ok - and the lib<insert-a-name-here> wouldn't be much more than an extended taglib?

yes

i see, thx for the clarification :)

+ it would be able to generate PUIDS

luks: thought, that PUID thing was libofa's job

libofa only generates a fingerprint

doesn't decode the audio files

doesn't ask the musicdns server for puids

ok, had no chance to look into the code yet :)

I have files with both "MusicMagic Data" tag and MB IDs in it. So, what to do now to make Picard submit PUID? Or is it not working that way yet?

rowaasr13: if there is no PUID yet, you can't submit one :)

rowaasr13: and if there is one, you will be able to send it to MB

yeah, we certainly need a libmb version 3.0 for the new WS.

are 9 servers enough to call a farm yet?

moo

that's my line :-P

(read: yes)

you have a highlight on that? ;)

rowaa[sr13] is now known as rowaasr13

hehe there is

night

Hello. Has anyone had problems with Picard 0.7.0 memory consumption hitting the roof?

I just today downloaded Picard 0.7.0 (running on Windows ME), checked the box "Automatically analyze all new files" (to try out the new fingerprinting feature and (hopefully) feed some PUIDs to the DB), and threw a whole bunch of ripped CDs at it.

After a few minutes (maybe half an hour), Windows was thrashing like crazy, and System Monitor showed over 1GB (!) of swap in use. I ended up having to kill Picard at that point to bring the system back under control :(

When I restarted Picard without the auto-analyze option set, Picard had no problem coping with the same set of files, but then it won't let me analyze the files it automatically identifies, so I can't generate PUIDs for them that way :(

Hello

'lo

Do you use Picard 0.7.0?

joshk_ is now known as joshk

BGreeNZ: sorry, i'm at work. i do not have much time to talk

and yes, i've used it

g0llum: That's fine. I didn't mean to interrupt you.

Who was it yesterday that helped me install Picard on a Ubuntu laptop?

I need that quick guide again and I can't find it in the legs

Hehe

inhouseuk: Thanks for the, uh, approval on mods 4522811, 4522813, 4512761 and 4512764.

Oh well, now I did find it.

'lo I finally got Picard working after a great deal of effort; there's just one remaining problem:

steps 3 and 4 from http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/HowToTagFilesWithPi... do not work because when Picard opens Mozilla, Mozilla just goes to a blank start page instead of the proper URL.

I am baffled and I don't know what I missed.

hello everyone

i see that ruoak is not around, does anyone happen to know how the search works? either the indexed or direct search? in relation to artist aliaseses

mhall: what OS?

nikki_: Debian unstable + experiemental.

nechto13: I know that the taglookup page doesn't understand aliases

mhall: it's probably something to do with the quoting in your BROWSER variable then

nikki_: I'll check it.

I got really annoyed one day and ended up using backslashes for everything instead of quotes, the silly thing ended up being twice as long :o

gaaah.

I want my bloody hour back

Quick... drive west to the next time zone!

nikki_: bloody hour?

mhall [at themhallbox]:/usr/src/picard$ export BROWSER="firefox '%s' &"

Is that decent, nikki_?

Is it a 'feature' that picard doesn't load release dates that only contain the year?

no, it's a bug

Okay... that means it'll probably get fixed at some point, so I'm happy then.

yep, it already is fixed

and the new version will be released later today, btw

just a lot of bugfixes in it, nothing interesting :)

TVSeaOtter: well, I can't drive and there aren't any land connections to the next time zone...

plus, I don't know where the nearest one still on UTC+0 is

mhall: daylight savings, they stole my hour :(

nikki_: rat bastards are going to probably get mine soon then

nikki_: i still have nightmares about daylight saving brought on by working in the telecom industry

uhm, sorry? it is cool that there's daylight for one more hour during summer

one can drink more beers

I've been an hour late every day this week :/

g0llum: I hate the way they keep changing the time

nope

yep. all year daylight saving would be cool, too.

I guess the problem with the hour is that it's so subtle

nothing changes, except I've gotta be everywhere an hour earlier

nikki_: I had to write the most horrid spaghetti code because of that hour.

oh?

g0llum: I'm a redneck; the only precondition to me drinking beer is me having beer to drink.

eheh

g0llum: I'm only half-kidding.

same for me, too. :)

with travelling, my entire schedule is different...

hey g0llum, are you in charge of overhaulling CSG?

nikki_: Yeah, I dealt with billing. So you can imagine how, ehm, entertaining it is to work around that hour glitch twice a year.

donredman thought so, but no.

dunno if marco (clutcher2) wants to do it

if you want to jump in, please do

like if I go to america, my schedule is no longer wake up at 8, bus at 8:30, class at 8:50 home at 16:10...

so right now my body is all 'why the fuck are you waking at 7, catching a bus at 7:30, class at 7:50 and coming home at 15:10? sod this, I'm still tired! zzz'

I have entered a ticket for the Picard problem outlined above. See http://test.musicbrainz.org/trac/ticket/1242

BGreeNZ: i'll look at it

and yes, picard has to decode 130 seconds of the file to the memory

which is usually about 40MB

g0llum: hmm, so currently there is no one in charge? CSG anarchy? i don't want to be the go to guy on this, but i would prefer to sit on sidelines and throw out suggestions. i'd be willing to contribute as long as i don't get to make all the decisions

i thought it was 2 mins for puids

no, 2:10

oh, k

luks: Problem is, it doesn't seem to be freeing it afterwards, or, if Python is GC, the G isn't being C'd :(

g0llum: if it has been decided to split the wiki in multiple pages, each person who wants to contribute could work on just one page

obviously the music is so good that it doesn't think it's garbage ;)

lol

nikki_: Don't be late now