15:27 PM
flamingcow
yeargh
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15:27 PM
flamingcow
getalbumbyid returns the album artist id but not the album artist name?
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15:28 PM
luks
it doesn't?
2006-08-15 22727, 2006
15:29 PM
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luks
maybe the depth is set too low?
2006-08-15 22723, 2006
15:30 PM
luks
it returns artist elements only with depth 4+, for albums
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15:30 PM
flamingcow
well, there's no entry in queries.h for it
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15:30 PM
flamingcow
lemme try higher depth
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15:31 PM
luks
i'm pretty sure there is
2006-08-15 22715, 2006
15:32 PM
luks
use depth 4, MBQ_GetAlbumById and then MBE_AlbumGetAlbumArtistName
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15:33 PM
flamingcow
MBE_AlbumGetAlbumArtistName undefined here
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15:33 PM
luks
which version of libmb?
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15:34 PM
luks
it was added in 2.1.3, i think
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15:34 PM
flamingcow
2.1.2-2ubuntu3
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15:34 PM
flamingcow
heh, lovely!
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luks
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15:35 PM
luks
all the queries are just strings
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15:35 PM
flamingcow
yeah
2006-08-15 22739, 2006
15:35 PM
flamingcow
i'm still not seeing the artist name in the returned rdf :/
2006-08-15 22718, 2006
15:36 PM
inhouseuk
what depth are you now using?
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flamingcow
heh, but your string works
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15:37 PM
flamingcow
so i'll shut up
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15:37 PM
luks
flamingcow: there are not inside the mm:Album element
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15:38 PM
luks
only the ID is there, the data are below
2006-08-15 22730, 2006
15:38 PM
flamingcow
gotcha
2006-08-15 22756, 2006
15:38 PM
flamingcow
so, right now i have code that does one MBQ_GetAlbumById for ASIN and album artist + id
2006-08-15 22711, 2006
15:39 PM
flamingcow
then does one MBQ_QuickTrackInfoFromTrackId per track
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15:39 PM
inhouseuk thinks RDF is short for "Really Does Frustrate" :)
2006-08-15 22739, 2006
15:39 PM
flamingcow
for artist id/name, track name, releases
2006-08-15 22754, 2006
15:39 PM
flamingcow
should i be able to get all that info from MBQ_GetAlbumById with a high enough depth?
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15:40 PM
luks
yes
2006-08-15 22748, 2006
15:40 PM
luks
with 4 you will get all tracks + track artists
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15:41 PM
flamingcow
and...releases?
2006-08-15 22715, 2006
15:41 PM
luks
releases for each track?
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15:42 PM
flamingcow
oh, duh
2006-08-15 22749, 2006
15:42 PM
flamingcow
*brain turns on*
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15:42 PM
flamingcow
thanks :)
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15:49 PM
deadchip
* inhouseuk thinks RDF is short for "Really Does Frustrate" :) <-- haha
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inhouseuk
luks: is there a way of merging tickets on trac?
2006-08-15 22711, 2006
16:05 PM
luks
nope
2006-08-15 22721, 2006
16:05 PM
inhouseuk
bleh!
2006-08-15 22722, 2006
16:05 PM
luks
just close one of them and add links to both
2006-08-15 22752, 2006
16:06 PM
inhouseuk
I was thinking the wikiprefix, the shortening of annotations and the link type enhancements could be dealt with all on the same enhancement ticket
2006-08-15 22707, 2006
16:07 PM
inhouseuk
they are all directly related to the same code
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16:07 PM
Aankhen`` pokes catmo.
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16:08 PM
luks
well, i *personally* think the wikiprefix one is wontfix
2006-08-15 22703, 2006
16:08 PM
luks
wiki formatting in annotations is not supposed to be html
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16:08 PM
luks
and it should primary interact with the main wiki
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16:08 PM
luks
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16:09 PM
nikki_
it was unexpected behaviour for me
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16:09 PM
inhouseuk
yeah, but people don't see it as being a wiki. They see the wiki formating as a method of adding links and text layout
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16:09 PM
nikki_
I wouldn't expect /relative/link.html to go to the wiki
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16:09 PM
nikki_
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16:09 PM
inhouseuk nods
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luks
but it's not html!
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16:09 PM
luks
i would expect it in html
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16:09 PM
inhouseuk
it's not a wiki either
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16:09 PM
nikki_
it *generates* html :P
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16:10 PM
keschte
neither are the rest of the text inputs like edit notes
2006-08-15 22712, 2006
16:10 PM
keschte
so, interwiki linking is the best possible way to do that
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16:10 PM
luks
i think the prefix should stay as is
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16:10 PM
keschte
it saves even a couple of chars and removes the need for square brackets.
2006-08-15 22758, 2006
16:10 PM
nikki_
er...
2006-08-15 22712, 2006
16:11 PM
nikki_
but these are links I did with square brackets...
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16:12 PM
keschte
so, its currently not handled in the code... check the annotation.pm module if you don't believe us
2006-08-15 22759, 2006
16:12 PM
luks
nikki_: "I wouldn't expect /relative/link.html to go to the wiki" <- i can use the same argument :)
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16:13 PM
luks
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16:13 PM
inhouseuk
the annotations are just shown as text boxes, users don't know they have wiki formating generating the links when displaying them
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16:13 PM
nikki_
why would you expect /relative/link.html to go to wiki.musicbrainz/relative/link.html?
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16:13 PM
nikki_
+.org
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16:13 PM
luks
why would you expect relative links work?
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16:14 PM
nikki_
because I didn't expect it to make absolute links
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16:14 PM
nikki_
I just expected it to turn the [/something blah] into <a href="/something">blah</a>
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16:14 PM
luks
because you think of it as html
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16:14 PM
luks
which it isn't
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16:15 PM
nikki_
it's not a wiki either
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16:15 PM
inhouseuk
the wiki formating in notes/annotations is for formating functionality, it is not a wiki
2006-08-15 22702, 2006
16:15 PM
luks
you can use wither absolute url or wiki name
2006-08-15 22710, 2006
16:15 PM
luks
either
2006-08-15 22719, 2006
16:16 PM
inhouseuk
why would you want to use an absolute url when the context changes? wiki pages are always going to be on the wiki. artist and release links are on the 'local' mirror/server
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16:16 PM
nikki_
I just find it hard to see how the annotations and the wiki are linked, other than the annotations use a wiki syntax similar to but not the same as the wiki
2006-08-15 22712, 2006
16:17 PM
inhouseuk
yes, it uses wiki formating for enhancement, but it is not a wiki
2006-08-15 22749, 2006
16:17 PM
inhouseuk
it could have just as easily used embedded html to do the same thing
2006-08-15 22709, 2006
16:18 PM
nikki_
and other than those "this is a special purpose artist" type links, I don't really recall seeing links to the wiki
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16:22 PM
inhouseuk can see this is another ticket that will be discussed about for months without resolution
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16:23 PM
inhouseuk
so much time is wasted on discussing things that can be fixed in seconds
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16:26 PM
inhouseuk
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16:26 PM
inhouseuk
it doesn't say annotations are now integrated into the wiki
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catmo
Aankhen`` ?
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Aankhen``
catmo: Hi.
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catmo
heey Aankhen
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16:33 PM
catmo
what you wanted?
2006-08-15 22717, 2006
16:33 PM
Aankhen``
catmo: I was wondering how come you changed the entry for Anuradha Paudwal to Devanagari script?
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16:33 PM
deadchip
is it possible that there is no PUID for a fingerprint?
2006-08-15 22733, 2006
16:33 PM
deadchip
i mean, even without metadata
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16:33 PM
catmo
eeeerrh because it is?
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Aankhen``
catmo: Wha?
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catmo
what exactly do you mean now?
2006-08-15 22708, 2006
16:34 PM
catmo
like the album?
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16:34 PM
Aankhen``
The artist name.
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16:34 PM
catmo
oh?
2006-08-15 22730, 2006
16:34 PM
catmo
shoudn't it be in her proper script?
2006-08-15 22750, 2006
16:34 PM
Aankhen``
I'm not sure, but I think she's a South Indian singer.
2006-08-15 22701, 2006
16:35 PM
catmo
its in Devanagari script on the release
2006-08-15 22710, 2006
16:35 PM
catmo
hmm!
2006-08-15 22734, 2006
16:35 PM
Aankhen``
Which would make her native language Tamil, Telegu, Malayalam, or some such thing.
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16:35 PM
catmo
that's right..
2006-08-15 22703, 2006
16:36 PM
catmo
I was just going t ohead into the shower.. can I ask you to research this thing?
2006-08-15 22703, 2006
16:36 PM
Aankhen``
I've been trying to find out, but there doesn't seem to be much info about her on the 'Net.
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16:36 PM
Aankhen``
Sure thing.
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catmo
ooh i see
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catmo
thank you
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catmo
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Aankhen``
I believe so.
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Aankhen``
I think there was something about it in one of the pages I found.
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16:38 PM
catmo
can you gather your notes the and put it in a query for me?
2006-08-15 22750, 2006
16:38 PM
catmo
links and so forth
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16:38 PM
Aankhen``
Okey dokey.
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catmo
I need to shower
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16:38 PM
catmo
thank you!
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Aankhen``
Have fun. :-)
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16:39 PM
catmo
:D
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16:39 PM
nikki_
I've found links saying oriya, marathi, hindi and bengali already
2006-08-15 22744, 2006
16:40 PM
nikki_
I guess we'd be correct if we say "it has squiggles. we're not sure *which* squiggles but they're definitely squiggles."
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Aankhen``
LOL.
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Aankhen``
nikki_: Right on!
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deadchip
erm
2006-08-15 22724, 2006
16:55 PM
deadchip
<track-list offset="8"/>
2006-08-15 22728, 2006
16:55 PM
deadchip
the offset starts at zero?
2006-08-15 22743, 2006
16:55 PM
deadchip
because thet track is track 9 (starting count from 1) on the disc
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deadchip
err
2006-08-15 22747, 2006
16:55 PM
deadchip
that*
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Shepard
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luks
deadchip: "is it possible that there is no PUID for a fingerprint?" yes, it is possible
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17:02 PM
luks
and quite often, especially for new tracks
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17:03 PM
nikki_
Shepard: I never do
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nikki_
I usually just put a line in the annotation
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nikki_
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