yllona - you just woke me up by yelling MOOSE so loudly :)
2006-08-25 23744, 2006
Yllona
that's 'cuz i was eating elk jerky -- very tasty, and close enough to yell out loud :)
2006-08-25 23736, 2006
Joan_W
muz will be very unhappy that you are eating a moose (elk)
2006-08-25 23748, 2006
Joan_W
almost as bad as puppy eating
2006-08-25 23718, 2006
Yllona
ah, well but maybe moose and elk are a different species?
2006-08-25 23738, 2006
Joan_W
very probably
2006-08-25 23720, 2006
Shepard has quit
2006-08-25 23721, 2006
Shepard`
Shepard` is now known as Shepard
2006-08-25 23728, 2006
Joan_W
hi shep
2006-08-25 23710, 2006
Joan_W
very quiet on here tonight - everybody asleep in Europe and out for the evening in the US and still at work in Australia
2006-08-25 23728, 2006
Yllona
eek, moose & elk are the same... uh, i'm in trouble
2006-08-25 23741, 2006
Joan_W
I promise not to tell him
2006-08-25 23751, 2006
dholmes
Nah, we just had some interesting conversations about geeky stuff a little while ago
2006-08-25 23720, 2006
Joan_W
I stay well away from geeky stuff - anyway you cannot get a word in edgeways when deadchip is on - entertaining though he is
2006-08-25 23728, 2006
dholmes
...what am I saying, everything is geeky in a channel about a metadata database and related software =D
2006-08-25 23728, 2006
Yllona
joan: i gotta say the elk jerky was mighty tasty tho.
2006-08-25 23747, 2006
Joan_W
eating moose is not at all geeky
2006-08-25 23759, 2006
dholmes
I suppose so
2006-08-25 23705, 2006
rpedro__ joined the channel
2006-08-25 23709, 2006
dholmes
Doesn't have much to do with Musicbrainz, but that's fine I guess =D
2006-08-25 23748, 2006
Joan_W
that's why, at times, we come on here - to get away from the editing we have been doing for the last three hours - light entertainment
2006-08-25 23753, 2006
Yllona
dholmes: nope, other than to tease mustaqila, moose has absolutely nothing to do with MusicBrainz -- and never will.
2006-08-25 23727, 2006
Joan_W
but it's fun though yllona - pity muz isn't here
2006-08-25 23756, 2006
Yllona
sadly, it looks like mustaquila went to sleep without logging off, i'll have to save at least one piece of jerky for another day ;)
2006-08-25 23703, 2006
rpedro__
rpedro__ is now known as rpedro
2006-08-25 23707, 2006
deadchip
"anyway you cannot get a word in edgeways when deadchip is on" <-- what does this mean?
2006-08-25 23711, 2006
deadchip <-- non native speaker here
2006-08-25 23727, 2006
deadchip
relating to the recent issue with nightgroove/mo?
2006-08-25 23732, 2006
deadchip
well seriously i don't want to discuss this
2006-08-25 23738, 2006
Joan_W
what recent issue with nightgroove?
2006-08-25 23743, 2006
deadchip
ok then nvm
2006-08-25 23745, 2006
dholmes
I don't think that's what they meant =D
2006-08-25 23747, 2006
deadchip
but what did you mean with thaT?
2006-08-25 23759, 2006
deadchip
sorry i'm currently totally out-confused by the people in #bmp
2006-08-25 23706, 2006
deadchip
i don't think i can think very well right nwo about this discussion here
2006-08-25 23706, 2006
dholmes
It means you keep talking about things they don't understand and thus they can't talk
2006-08-25 23710, 2006
deadchip
but i'd still like to know what this meant
2006-08-25 23714, 2006
deadchip
ok
2006-08-25 23716, 2006
dholmes
Because they channel is already full of talking
2006-08-25 23717, 2006
Joan_W
I was just wondering if you write down every thought you have
2006-08-25 23724, 2006
deadchip
Joan_W: well not everything
2006-08-25 23728, 2006
deadchip
Joan_W: actually a lot of it not
2006-08-25 23731, 2006
deadchip
which i regret later on
2006-08-25 23732, 2006
deadchip
LOL
2006-08-25 23738, 2006
deadchip
since i had some idea and then forget it
2006-08-25 23746, 2006
deadchip
but the ideas i have before falling asleep, i always remember those
2006-08-25 23748, 2006
Joan_W
hold on - don't write anything for a minute
2006-08-25 23700, 2006
deadchip
ah you mean write down into the IRC channel
2006-08-25 23701, 2006
deadchip
yeah
2006-08-25 23710, 2006
Joan_W
be quiet for a minute
2006-08-25 23713, 2006
deadchip
i think it's a trait of mine to just type down/out everything i type
2006-08-25 23715, 2006
deadchip
ok
2006-08-25 23724, 2006
deadchip
i think*
2006-08-25 23729, 2006
deadchip
(sorry, it was only a correction)
2006-08-25 23731, 2006
deadchip
LOL
2006-08-25 23733, 2006
Joan_W
shush
2006-08-25 23741, 2006
deadchip
you're treating me like a kid!
2006-08-25 23743, 2006
deadchip
i can't take this
2006-08-25 23714, 2006
dholmes
Hm
2006-08-25 23744, 2006
Joan_W
of the last 32 lines written - three were from me - two were dhomes and the rest were yours - that's what I meant by writing down every thought
2006-08-25 23709, 2006
deadchip
well yeah i am just like that i guess
2006-08-25 23715, 2006
dholmes
It seems whenever my mods expire with no votes except an abstain, the vote that eventually decides it always ends up being cast by a newbie
2006-08-25 23718, 2006
deadchip
i have ADD if that helps understandin git
2006-08-25 23720, 2006
deadchip
understanding it*
2006-08-25 23728, 2006
deadchip
but i guess a lot of people have it anyway
2006-08-25 23730, 2006
Joan_W
so does mo
2006-08-25 23731, 2006
deadchip
lol
2006-08-25 23741, 2006
deadchip
yeah ok then it's understandable how he behaves
2006-08-25 23756, 2006
deadchip
so if you are able to bear mo's behaviour
2006-08-25 23700, 2006
deadchip
i can't see how you can't bear mine
2006-08-25 23706, 2006
deadchip
except for that he's your friend and i'm not or something
2006-08-25 23721, 2006
Joan_W
no - I have known him since January
2006-08-25 23732, 2006
Joan_W
but, yes, he is a friend because I have got to know him.
2006-08-25 23758, 2006
Joan_W
You don't give us a chance to really get to know you because you don't join in any of our off topic conversations
2006-08-25 23700, 2006
deadchip
yeah well let's say, and you can judge me on that in whatever way you want that, you can objectively judge my behaviour and tell me or ask me to do or not to do something
2006-08-25 23712, 2006
deadchip
but i will not accept judgements based/influenced by emotional attachement
2006-08-25 23725, 2006
Joan_W
no emotional attachment - that I can guarantee you
2006-08-25 23729, 2006
deadchip
aka just because you know mo better and feel closer to him you tolerate his behaviour more <-- not a valid point for me
2006-08-25 23733, 2006
deadchip
Joan_W: ^^^
2006-08-25 23739, 2006
deadchip
i didn't mean ROMANTIC emotional attachment
2006-08-25 23747, 2006
deadchip
but you said he's your friend and that obviously is emotional attachment
2006-08-25 23706, 2006
Joan_W
no - you misunderstand me - I am just saying give us a chance to get to know you on a different level to what dholmes calls the "geeky" level
2006-08-25 23712, 2006
deadchip
in a 50:50 situation, you're more likely to defend mo than me
2006-08-25 23721, 2006
deadchip
(my best guess as that'd be rather normal for a human)
2006-08-25 23727, 2006
deadchip
so this already rules these kinds of things out
2006-08-25 23734, 2006
Joan_W
no - I do not get involved in arguments if I can possibly help it
2006-08-25 23746, 2006
deadchip
well what do you mean by this "geeky" level anyway :
2006-08-25 23749, 2006
deadchip
:|
2006-08-25 23751, 2006
deadchip
i don't get it
2006-08-25 23757, 2006
deadchip
how am i especially geeky?
2006-08-25 23704, 2006
deadchip
ok i talk more about tech stuff
2006-08-25 23707, 2006
Joan_W
I don't know - ask dholmes - he said you had been having geeky conversations that I had missed
2006-08-25 23710, 2006
deadchip
rather than doing normal conversations
2006-08-25 23715, 2006
deadchip
but i guess that's also due to the fact that
2006-08-25 23721, 2006
deadchip
*drummmmrollllll*
2006-08-25 23729, 2006
deadchip
(and here comes the major part of what i meant with friend vs. no friend)
2006-08-25 23735, 2006
deadchip
that no one asks me when i join the channel
2006-08-25 23738, 2006
deadchip
"hey deadchip, how is it?"
2006-08-25 23744, 2006
deadchip
"hi deadchip, how are you?"
2006-08-25 23759, 2006
dholmes
I wouldn't read too much into that
2006-08-25 23703, 2006
deadchip
coz no one asks that, i am unlikely to start or scratch the walls of the hole i'm in to start one myself
2006-08-25 23708, 2006
deadchip
no no i'm not taking it personal
2006-08-25 23709, 2006
Joan_W
do you ever ask - usually when I log on I say good evening or make some such comment
2006-08-25 23711, 2006
deadchip
that's not my point dholmes
2006-08-25 23716, 2006
deadchip
the point is just that if no one asks me how i am
2006-08-25 23720, 2006
deadchip
then i will never reply how i am
2006-08-25 23729, 2006
deadchip
and a "normal" ungeek conversation will never take place
2006-08-25 23745, 2006
deadchip
Joan_W: yeah i ask people but with some i don't as i think they don't really like me
2006-08-25 23745, 2006
Joan_W
just jump into one of our off topic conversations now and then - nobody will ever ignore you
2006-08-25 23755, 2006
deadchip
allright i'll try
2006-08-25 23756, 2006
deadchip
but
2006-08-25 23759, 2006
Joan_W
give yourself a chance to be liked
2006-08-25 23707, 2006
deadchip
to come back to the "mo incident" of recent
2006-08-25 23710, 2006
Joan_W
as a person and not just as a techie
2006-08-25 23718, 2006
deadchip
which scared me off of talking in here except for tech stuff
2006-08-25 23724, 2006
deadchip
to sum it up it was this:
2006-08-25 23731, 2006
Joan_W
well then - talk to me to start with
2006-08-25 23738, 2006
deadchip
Joan_W: mo mentioned that he's got to go regularily to a hopsital
2006-08-25 23750, 2006
deadchip
Joan_W: now it so happens that i sometimes have to do that too
2006-08-25 23706, 2006
deadchip
Joan_W: i have a heart condition because of which i have to visit the hospital regularily
2006-08-25 23719, 2006
deadchip
Joan_W: then i asked mo why he's got to go there and i had NO IDEA it has to do something with his mom
2006-08-25 23721, 2006
deadchip
-no- idea
2006-08-25 23726, 2006
deadchip
i was totally innocent
2006-08-25 23728, 2006
Joan_W
I am sorry to hear that - I trust the doctors keep it well under control
2006-08-25 23731, 2006
deadchip
Joan_W: but obivously, this is a personal matter for him
2006-08-25 23740, 2006
deadchip
Joan_W: so he won't discuss this with everyone
2006-08-25 23743, 2006
deadchip
which i totally understand
2006-08-25 23750, 2006
deadchip
Joan_W: but the outcome was that he just completely ignored me
2006-08-25 23708, 2006
Joan_W
back in a minute
2006-08-25 23714, 2006
Joan_W
don't go away
2006-08-25 23719, 2006
rpedro_ has quit
2006-08-25 23734, 2006
deadchip
Joan_W: and while in a way this is understandable (he didn't want to talk about it with me and one way to not do that is to say nothing at all, although especially when having ADD, and especially when TWO people having ADD get together, the best way is clear communication, so he'd have been better off saying "sorry but this is a private matter")
2006-08-25 23700, 2006
deadchip
Joan_W: so, while this is understandable, and from his POV was ok, it ALSO undeniably led to frustration on my side
2006-08-25 23706, 2006
deadchip
because i felt simply completely ignored
2006-08-25 23732, 2006
deadchip
Joan_W: then mudcrow explained me that of course it's mo's business etc, and it's none of my concern etc
2006-08-25 23737, 2006
deadchip
Joan_W: which is _ALL_ _really_ true
2006-08-25 23747, 2006
deadchip
Joan_W: but it doesn't change the fact that i feel ignored if i don't get a response at all
2006-08-25 23749, 2006
Joan_W
I can understand that - but as you would like people to make allowances for your ADD, now that you know mo has the same problem, make allowances as we all do.
2006-08-25 23751, 2006
deadchip
Joan_W: there is no 1 side of the situation
2006-08-25 23708, 2006
deadchip
Joan_W: the situation is two fold and always ill be: he didn't reply because he felt he doesn't want to, and i feel ignored because i receive no reply
2006-08-25 23716, 2006
deadchip
both points stand along side each other and are just as valid
2006-08-25 23722, 2006
Joan_W
I think it is best to forget that particular incident - I'm sure mo has. Start afresh
2006-08-25 23724, 2006
deadchip
Joan_W: and since then i'm rather scared to ask anyone anything
2006-08-25 23732, 2006
deadchip
yeah i'll try
2006-08-25 23709, 2006
deadchip
well yeah now that i know that he has too i'll try to do my best as i know how problematic i can be for people
2006-08-25 23732, 2006
Joan_W
mo, nikki, nyght and I all get along particularly well because we all love cats. Silly thing to bond people together isn't it.
