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      • luks has quit

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      • luks joined the channel

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      • Shepard`
        Shepard` is now known as Shepard

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      • inhouseuk
        Freso: for reference, my server starts processing replication packets at 11 minutes past the hour. So any discids you add will generally be available to the cddb gateway shortly after that

        • 2006-09-09 25219, 2006

      • Freso
        inhouseuk: The 11 min past is good to know. It's sync'ing at :00?

        • 2006-09-09 25240, 2006

      • inhouseuk
        no, the main server hasn't produced the new packet at that time. It is normally available on the main server a few minutes past.

        • 2006-09-09 25206, 2006

      • inhouseuk
        so I wait a little longer just to be sure

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      • Freso
        inhouseuk: Ah. So you fetch *and* process at :11?

        • 2006-09-09 25231, 2006

      • inhouseuk
        yup

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      • Freso
        Verry well.

        • 2006-09-09 25216, 2006

      • Freso
        I'll keep it in mind. :)

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      • catgruff
        inhouse!

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      • inhouseuk
        mo

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      • catgruff
        remember your http://www.mb.inhouse.co.uk/fup-track2.html script?

        • 2006-09-09 25252, 2006

      • inhouseuk
        yeah, that horrid thing

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      • catgruff
        i'v done those

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      • inhouseuk
        great :)

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      • catgruff
        but I'd like it, if you, could possibly check for safeties sake and updatethat script so there anren't any tht I missed

        • 2006-09-09 25229, 2006

      • inhouseuk
        yup, I try. I think I've still got the data available for producing/updating that.

        • 2006-09-09 25235, 2006

      • catgruff
        thanks a lot

        • 2006-09-09 25208, 2006

      • inhouseuk
        it probably won't be until the end of the weekend

        • 2006-09-09 25214, 2006

      • catgruff
        no problem

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      • mudcrow
        *shock* why isn't comb & paper in the list of instruments?

        • 2006-09-09 25216, 2006

      • mudcrow
        I also have a credit for coconuts on this release

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      • mudcrow
        and Two Pints Pearson played Nothing. I'm not sure how to credit that one

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      • mudcrow
        this release also has credits for patheticisms, farts, attempted harmonies, litchkins?, best guitar, worst guitar, jockey gut?, and pessimisms

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      • Freso
        mudcrow: I'd say it was a vote for FreeTextQualifiers - and a lot of annotating until then. :)

        • 2006-09-09 25258, 2006

      • mustaqila tickles mo under the chin

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      • Freso
        Okay. Time for pizza and Nintendo on the new TV. =)

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      • catgruff
        rrr hi muz:(

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      • mustaqila
        Hei mo, what's up?

        • 2006-09-09 25252, 2006

      • catgruff
        duste naboer

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      • mustaqila
        naboer == party?

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      • mustaqila
        ! naboer == neighbours

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      • mustaqila
        Right, mo?

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      • catgruff
        yes!

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      • catgruff
        clever muz!

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      • mustaqila
        :D

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      • mustaqila goes to bed to pass out drunkenly

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      • catgruff
        a moose bed

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      • mustaqila curls up in a moose furs

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      • Yllona
        mustaqila: did you catch up with ruoak?

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      • Russss
        I think he's gone. But yes, we did

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      • Yllona
        oh excellent :)

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      • mustaqila
        s

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      • catgruff
        hey mus

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      • mustaqila
        Hey mo

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      • Bad_Seed has quit

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      • mustaqila
        Sorry, was eating and watching The Fas

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      • mustaqila
        t Show

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      • catgruff
        "so fast, you forget the last letters before you press enter"

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      • mustaqila
        Nah, my light's off and I mean to press Shift, not Enter :P

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      • catgruff
        that happens to me a lot too

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      • catgruff
        also I mean to press a and press Caps lock instead

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      • mustaqila
        :)

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      • catgruff
        hench why I just pryed of the caps lock key altogether

        • 2006-09-09 25232, 2006

      • catgruff
        my other keyboard (the cordless one) was somehow not as prone to Acapslocing

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      • Yllona
        thanks mustaqila, you should get some rest...

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      • catgruff
        but this one (my old one that came with the machine, that I'm not using because the cordless one got b0rked) is

        • 2006-09-09 25241, 2006

      • mustaqila
        Yllona, yeah, was about to crawl into bed and vegetate to some videos until I fall asleep

        • 2006-09-09 25204, 2006

      • Yllona
        sounds like a good plan to me ;)

        • 2006-09-09 25243, 2006

      • mustaqila
        Hehe :P

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      • dholmes
        Anybody have any thoughts on http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/?releaseid=17… ?

        • 2006-09-09 25257, 2006

      • catgruff
        the ones who are not enya should have correct artist or otherwise [unknown] as artios

        • 2006-09-09 25202, 2006

      • catgruff
        the type changed to bootleg for now

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      • dholmes
        It seems to me that the album should probably end up being deleted, but I can't say for sure that somebody can't come up with a source

        • 2006-09-09 25223, 2006

      • catgruff
        that is why I said what I said

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      • catgruff
        it could always be deleted later

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      • Amblin has quit

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      • catgruff
        http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/?releaseid=54…

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      • catgruff
        http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=5558694

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      • Aankhen``
        Who isss being the catgruff, please?

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      • catgruff
        erh what?

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      • Aankhen``
        Heh, nevermind.

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      • Aankhen``
        What's new?

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      • catgruff
        hi Aankhen!

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      • catgruff
        :D

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      • Aankhen``
        Hihi. :-)

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      • Aankhen`` spontaneously combusts with excitement.

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      • srotta
        That "Enya" album is the traditional problem, it's hard to prove that something doesn't exist.

        • 2006-09-09 25217, 2006

      • dholmes
        Perhaps it would be more reasonable to just expect proof of existance from the person adding the album

        • 2006-09-09 25202, 2006

      • catgruff
        I don't like this at all: http://musicbrainz.org/mod/search/results.html?or… they look very bogus

        • 2006-09-09 25204, 2006

      • dholmes
        It seems it passed with just one Yes vote, from Jellyfish... perhaps he would be the one to ask

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      • catgruff
        and german

        • 2006-09-09 25211, 2006

      • catgruff
        what if he doesn't understand me ? :(

        • 2006-09-09 25238, 2006

      • dholmes
        Well, it's not like there aren't any German speakers around here :P

        • 2006-09-09 25211, 2006

      • Shepard
        if they respond with all "???", tell me :)

        • 2006-09-09 25234, 2006

      • catgruff
        http://musicbrainz.org/album/ae1df917-7593-49b5-9… <-- wtf?

        • 2006-09-09 25226, 2006

      • dholmes
        Could be reasonable, if it's actually been distributed physically

        • 2006-09-09 25232, 2006

      • dholmes
        I guess it's another case like before ;)

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      • srotta has quit

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      • Yllona
        okay folks, back later

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      • Yllona has quit

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      • FauxFaux
        Grg, what is it with picard and not actually writing tags to files?

        • 2006-09-09 25220, 2006

      • dholmes
        ...can't say I've ever had that problem

        • 2006-09-09 25256, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        It seems to pretend to do it if the files have been previously musicbrainzed.

        • 2006-09-09 25259, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        But actually doesn't.

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      • FauxFaux plots a test-case.

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      • deadchip
        someone else said that earlier already

        • 2006-09-09 25206, 2006

      • luks
        FauxFaux: are you sure it doesn't write tags?

        • 2006-09-09 25206, 2006

      • deadchip
        or it might have been you actually lol

        • 2006-09-09 25244, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        luks: Reasonably, unless winamp, foobar and mplayer have some kind of conspiracy going on against me.

        • 2006-09-09 25240, 2006

      • luks
        well. winamp, foobar, ... :)

        • 2006-09-09 25256, 2006

      • luks
        i can't say those are the players with the most standard tagging implementations

        • 2006-09-09 25217, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        Want to name something (windows) that sticks to the standard?

        • 2006-09-09 25229, 2006

      • luks
        can you send me one of these files?

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      • FauxFaux
        *preferably windows, preferably command-line.

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      • FauxFaux
        I'll see if it's reproducable.

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      • deadchip
        i don't think there is any player on windows that seriously conforms to metadata standards

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      • FauxFaux
        (This is very strange)

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      • deadchip
        especially none that properly deals with the additional set of MB metadata as un MusicBrainzTag

        • 2006-09-09 25203, 2006

      • deadchip
        but even without that it's always just odd

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      • FauxFaux
        I'm just uploading a sample track.. it seems that there must be two sets of tags in the file.. one which foobar/mplayer see, one which picard/extract_tags/winamp see/overwrite.

        • 2006-09-09 25257, 2006

      • luks
        foobar prefers APE tags over ID3, if they are present in the file

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      • FauxFaux isn't sure whether to get involved in this.

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      • FauxFaux
        It's claiming Tag Type: id3v2|id3v1

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      • luks
        foobar?

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      • FauxFaux
        Yeah. Allow me to fetch something that can read ape tags.

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      • luks
        easier to open a hex editor :)

        • 2006-09-09 25205, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        There's a "TAG" on the end of the file with some crappy data in.

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      • luks
        that's ID3v1

        • 2006-09-09 25254, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        Woe.

        • 2006-09-09 25201, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        http://faux.uwcs.co.uk/05.mp3 if you want to have a look, but I guess it's not a picard problem (unless you want to make it remove crappy tags from the file.. especially if oldtagger has been putting them in).

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      • FauxFaux
        (sha1sum 771146b61580e12260f3a83d14211a45f1d7cd47 *05.mp3)

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      • luks
        you can set picard to write also ID3v1 tags

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      • luks
        and for windows players i'd recomment using ID3v2.3 tags

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      • luks
        only a very few windows players can read v2.4

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      • FauxFaux
        Foobar seems to be reading them, but favouring the older tags.

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      • luks
        yeah, foobar is one of the players that can read 2.4

        • 2006-09-09 25259, 2006

      • luks
        actually probably the only one with somehow correct implementation

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      • luks
        FauxFaux: what version of foobar?

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      • FauxFaux
        Heh, well, it's not doing it right, 'cos it's taking the (incorrect) idv1 data that's lingering in the files.

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      • luks
        i'm using 0.9.3.1, and i see the right data in the properties window

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      • FauxFaux
        0.9.3.1.

        • 2006-09-09 25205, 2006

      • FauxFaux
        It gets the artist-name wrong here.

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      • luks
        ah, right

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      • luks
        hmm

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      • FauxFaux
        Which is, apart from the "cd1", the only bit of info in that tag on the end of the file.

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      • luks
        i've set it to read only ID3v2 tags, and it's still showing me "Clubland 7" as the artist name

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      • FauxFaux
        Indeed.

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      • FauxFaux
        I might have to see if it's sane to compile tommorow.

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      • deadchip
        i usually force-write xiphcomments into FLAC files and force APE tags into MPC files

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      • deadchip
        id3v2 really just sucks

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      • deadchip
        it's just overengineered and over-complicated

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      • deadchip 's personal opinion is that windows-world is full of borked multimedia software, except for video stuff where it clearly rules out over *nix