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or look around first

thanks for the help FauxFaux

have fun doing what I'm doing

(working)

AJAX is another hype word for a set of old technologies. You can do fancy things with it, but it's nowhere near semantic web.

If you want to have an inkling of what it means, try reading Berners-Lee's papers.

And holler if that makes any sense :D

the names (Berners-Lee) sounds familiar

Tim Berners-Lee, the inventor of WWW.

Head of W3C and so on.

Bring on <canvas /> based sites.

Semantic web is a great theory, but it bases on notion of defining everything. Good luck trying that.

oh, it's one name?

oops

heh, canvas

/another/ thing I still need to learn

VxJasonxV: I take it you've seen the canvas demo? :)

(http://www.abrahamjoffe.com.au/ben/canvascape/)

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Wow, I found an interesting bug in Picard

Mashing your hand into your keyboard as you lift yourself up from slouching in your chair causes it to crash

Heheh, ticket!

(We want photos)

Photos of me mashing my hand into the keyboard?

Yes! \o/

...

Oh, Picard doesn't seem to respect my left handed mouse cursors either

Hahah

hey guys is there a special guideline how to handel the "interlude" in some track titles

no

only if it has a sub title ;)

if the interlude is a subtitle?

like it is here http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/?releaseid=...

so is it allowed to put the interlude and prelude in brackets her , too ?http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/?releaseid=545720

VxJasonxV: what's the document type anyway?

VxJasonxV: if it's strict, you could check on zvon.org, they are a good resource for looking specs up

yeah umm it's XHTML 1.1

no, I said if it *has* a sub title

VxJasonxV: if you want to have it validate as XHTML 1.1 then make it XHTML 1.1 :P

otherwise just declare it as HTML 4.01 ;)

(that's not an insult, it's a reasonable recommendation)

argh amazon is behaving strange... first it doesn't show a tracklist and then it does for one and the same link

I added an xhtml 1.1 doctype in, there's really no reason it shouldn't be html 4.01 though

that was not the point, i wasn't saying "your HTML isn't good enough for XHTML"

but XHTML 1.1 _is_ strict and weird in some things

XHTML 1.0 Basic is better. ¬_¬

Just the way I did things before due to my slow adoption of Strict. Old site in HTML > converted to XTHML 1.0 transitional > converted to XHTML 1.0 Strict > converted to XHTML 1.1 strict ... slow transition as I was learning the standards

yeah XHTML 1.0 transitional is less weird for sure

lol

HairMetalAddict: yeah

We lack a liscence to import the data at the moment

will that be resolved soon?

No idea

Hopefully yes, but in reality it could be a different matter

what are you doing with the data that breaks the CC license?

Mmm, working on a CMS (think "PHP-Nuke without the overload of security issues and bugs" :P ) that has a CSS layout and follows standards. For now, it's following XHTML 1.0 Transitional just for sake of simplicity. Once a stable release is done, I'll work on upgrading to 1.0 or 1.1 Strict.

oh, 'commercial'

does anyone have a musicbrainz icon/image/logo in SVG?

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Good afternoon

anyone awake in here that can speak french?

mais oui

well maybe not

Not fluently

But I can understand a fair share of it

can you tell me if this organization is a Performance rights organisation or a Copyright collective?

i.e. distribute royalties on behalf of audio and video artists

for performances of their copyrighted works under copyright law

or is it just some legal body to do the dirty work

aye, found that one but I'm trying to get some official confirmation

soem kind of proof from the official site

Well, what I can make of it is hazy as it is and I wouldn't want to commit myself to a dead straight answer

From what I can see though it would appear to be a rights union thing

that's what I thought as well. Wikipedia is a bit of a mess is if comes to Performance rights organisations and Copyright collectives

The thing is though, do they preach their performance rights as part of a copyright issue or not?

:P

i.e, they have the right to X royalties etc due to copyright licenses issued from the SNEP

I'm trying to clean it up and extend the lists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Performance_rights... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_collective)

my initial goal was using it for MB, some Performance rights organisations allow you to search their db for tracks which can be used in MB edit disputes

as addition official proof

additional

Hmm, it's been a while since I read French, but from what I gather, SNEP is a publishers' union.

so kind of like the RIAA? nothing to do with the actual registering of works and collection royalties?

I don't know if they even register works in France, I'd think not :P

But the royalty collection might be the job for SDRM.

http://www.sacem.fr ;-)

SDRM? haven't got that one yet

lol: San Diego Railroad Museum

could you translate: 'La Sdrm regroupe actuellement les cinq associés suivants'

Hmm. "SDRM currently consists of the following five associations."

Probably not exact, but I think it catches the idea. 8)

from what I can tell the SDRM is about just reproduction or mechanical rights, isn't it?

I think it is, great, that was still a missing link in my list in France

It seems so.

cheers srotta

yeah it's i think like GEMA in Germany

there is a fee on every blank casette tape you buy

and as of right now, i am not sure if there isn't such a fee on blank CD-Rs/DVD-R(W)s

i think on every blank recording medium that can be used to record audio or video

GEMA does both performance and mechanical rights, most countries don't have one body for that

what is it with French sites with no English translation?!? ;-)

what is it with English sites with no French translation?

since English is the official world language the need for an English translation is greater than a French translation. People are expected to know at least English ;-)

who can give me a summary of which groups the French SGDL represents? (http://www.sgdl.org)

Bah, Chinese is more of a world language 8)

hmm

Prodoc: GEMA does performance rights as well?

i thought they are doing only what you've been calling technical

putting extra "taxes" on blank media, etc

yes

Prodoc: A writers' association?

well tbh i never dealt much with GEMA nor cared about them >_>

VxJasonxV what is it with English sites with no French translation? <-- lol

in the future I think it's good to include the Performance rights organisation for each release in MB. I didn't see it on sites yet. The info in printed on most releases and by storing it in MB it can be used again to e.g. contact the organistaion when you want to use a track for what ever reason

PROs don't control rights for performances outside their own country

with the possible exception of within the EU

true in a lot of cases yes, but at least it a starting lead for those who do need the info.

it's a close as you can get since this is info which can be copied from the cover or disc