thats what people say, but i dont notice it and mines pretty huge
2006-02-28 05924, 2006
teleGUISE_
well thats true.. you have the power of hardware
2006-02-28 05906, 2006
teleGUISE_
depends on the pc.. super cpu's mask a lot of that... other thing is you have to block an entire url and many url's have there own image server so you either get all or nothing
2006-02-28 05942, 2006
inhouseuk
teleGUISE_: my firewall is a cisco pix :)
2006-02-28 05904, 2006
teleGUISE_
for quick, down & dirty the hosts file is great.. it just is not very flexible
2006-02-28 05933, 2006
teleGUISE_
500?? oh that cheap crap
2006-02-28 05941, 2006
teleGUISE_
:)
2006-02-28 05912, 2006
teleGUISE_
inhouseuk: 5xx?
2006-02-28 05937, 2006
inhouseuk
it's a 506
2006-02-28 05919, 2006
teleGUISE_
that was a little bit of $$ especially if you bought it new
2006-02-28 05940, 2006
teleGUISE_
thought not as crazy as a 10K 535 :)
2006-02-28 05951, 2006
inhouseuk
teleGUISE_: I was a sys/network admin at an ISP until early 2004, therefore it didn't cost me very much :)
2006-02-28 05923, 2006
teleGUISE_
so i guess packet flooding you won't do much good... other than my isp will probably shut me down ;)
2006-02-28 05937, 2006
inhouseuk
yes, they would probably shut you down following my complaint
2006-02-28 05931, 2006
teleGUISE_
unless my buddy is working that night at the cable co :)
2006-02-28 05956, 2006
inhouseuk
unless your buddy is the MD that wouldn't help. I have a tendency to go to the top when reporting some things
2006-02-28 05911, 2006
inhouseuk has quite a few contacts at various ISP's in different countries
2006-02-28 05919, 2006
teleGUISE_
well of course I woudln't do that to you or anyone ..ehhhm for that matter...
2006-02-28 05941, 2006
teleGUISE_
you'd never be able to stop my dial up attack though :O
he's the guy thats never replyed to any mod note and has added loads of albums badly
2006-02-28 05900, 2006
teleGUISE_
is that just NO and also see this other edit that we should vote no on??
2006-02-28 05930, 2006
Mudcrow
no, that a message to him, as to the reason why
2006-02-28 05949, 2006
teleGUISE_
oh ok.. its just the way it was worded was like No and see why at this edit.. which was confoozing cuz the releases had nothing to do with each other ;)
2006-02-28 05951, 2006
Mudcrow
I couldnt be bothered to type out exactly what was wrong with each album he imported, so I did one long message then added a note pointing to it
BGreeNZ: hi, read your comment. no I don't know any other things to change yet for the HowToMergeArtists page
2006-02-28 05947, 2006
mustaqila
HowToMergeArtists - Throw both artists into a big bowl, get a whisk and stir furiously. It is advised to wear an apron as it can be messy
2006-02-28 05905, 2006
BGreeNZ
Shepard: Thanks for reviewing it while I was away. Much appreciated. mustaqila: lol
2006-02-28 05919, 2006
inhouseuk
BGreeNZ: HowToMergeAlbums looks great :)
2006-02-28 05958, 2006
_ruaok
BGreeNZ: yes, its coming along nicely!
2006-02-28 05912, 2006
BGreeNZ
Thanks. It was Shepard that supplied the links, though.
2006-02-28 05919, 2006
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2006-02-28 05937, 2006
teleGUISE_
anyone think it makes sense that in the releationship area when displaying a Amazon asin the Album title is hyperlinked to the mb album id with the asin # just in bold... why not make it hyperlink to the -actual- url added as well??
Shepard: I have given you credit as an author, and trying to work the links you found into the body where appropriate
2006-02-28 05953, 2006
teleGUISE_
correct... just though since all the other AR's are hyperlinked.. why not hyperlink to the original url set as well for shits n gigles since all the info is there anyway
2006-02-28 05954, 2006
inhouseuk
teleGUISE_: to be honest it's an amazon problem. You don't really want to redirect users to an amazon store that isn't in their country. Yes, I can and have bought from amazon.com and amazon.ca but the postal costs can be excessive and for certain higher value items they can incure import duty. The user could blame MB for these additional costs
2006-02-28 05934, 2006
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2006-02-28 05942, 2006
teleGUISE_
inhouseuk: true.. so then why not just link it to the same as the image, which would also be good for people that have image blocking on etc... of course it's all trivial i just thought it's staring at you in -bold- so why not make use of it.. otherwise why is it even in bold??
2006-02-28 05935, 2006
inhouseuk
teleGUISE_: again that might direct them to a non local store, for the reasons stated just now, you don't want to do that
2006-02-28 05902, 2006
inhouseuk
by displaying just the ASIN, MB can't be to blame, it's an amazon problem
2006-02-28 05927, 2006
teleGUISE_
inhouseuk: huh?? how would it redirect them to anything different then the actual image link?
2006-02-28 05949, 2006
teleGUISE_
what im saying is then set it to the same as if you were to click on the image
2006-02-28 05935, 2006
teleGUISE_
or for all it's worth just UNbold it... it's distracting ;)
2006-02-28 05952, 2006
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2006-02-28 05918, 2006
inhouseuk
which might take them to a non local store. I recommend you look at the code behind the amazon image displaying stuff.
2006-02-28 05943, 2006
teleGUISE_
ok.. but i dont understand how it could/would be different if whatever link the image goes to you just make the asin go to the same... maybe label it Foobar can be purchased at ASIN and hyperlink it.. not that there would be large amounts but it gives people with text surfing the ability to make use of it as well.. just another possible revenue source
2006-02-28 05959, 2006
teleGUISE_
i would think when a person goes to check out and see's $80 in shipping charges they won't accept it, if some issue arises :)
2006-02-28 05919, 2006
inhouseuk
teleGUISE_: I repeat again - you don't want to ever risk redirecting them to a non-local store
2006-02-28 05928, 2006
SenRepus
not everyone double checks such things
2006-02-28 05905, 2006
inhouseuk
teleGUISE_: If you want to consider a change like that, seek legal advice to the risks involved
2006-02-28 05906, 2006
teleGUISE_
i guess i'll have to look.. i still dont get if the image can link correctly why cant a text based place holder??
2006-02-28 05923, 2006
inhouseuk
from Album.pm
2006-02-28 05931, 2006
inhouseuk
my %CoverArtServer = (
2006-02-28 05932, 2006
inhouseuk
"amazon.co.jp" => "images-jp.amazon.com",
2006-02-28 05934, 2006
inhouseuk
"amazon.co.uk" => "images-eu.amazon.com",
2006-02-28 05936, 2006
inhouseuk
"amazon.de" => "images-eu.amazon.com",
2006-02-28 05937, 2006
inhouseuk
"amazon.com" => "images.amazon.com",
2006-02-28 05939, 2006
inhouseuk
"amazon.ca" => "images.amazon.com",
2006-02-28 05940, 2006
inhouseuk
"amazon.fr" => "images.amazon.com"
2006-02-28 05942, 2006
inhouseuk
);
2006-02-28 05905, 2006
inhouseuk
teleGUISE_: the situation isn't as simple as you think
2006-02-28 05950, 2006
teleGUISE_
if i turn load images from the original website on only - to "ON" the word 'cover art' still links me correctly to the correct amazon store... so why can't the BOLDtypeface ASIN do the same??
2006-02-28 05908, 2006
teleGUISE_
either im not explaining something correctly or just stupid :) ... if you can put the code in one area to work correctly why shouldn't that same code work in another area?
2006-02-28 05928, 2006
inhouseuk
teleGUISE_: look at the code, seek legal advice regarding the possible risks and then propose it. Until that time drop the subject - it is not recommended
2006-02-28 05948, 2006
inhouseuk
you don't understand the risks involved!
2006-02-28 05914, 2006
teleGUISE_
Im not saying link it anywhere else! Im saying link it EXACTLY to the same place the link goes when i click on the picture
2006-02-28 05928, 2006
inhouseuk
teleGUISE_: DROP IT
2006-02-28 05957, 2006
SenRepus drops it
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2006-02-28 05931, 2006
rowaasr13
Neither do I. I hardly can believe any country have law that have anything against giving links to shops wherever they might be and then keep linker responsible for purchase.
2006-02-28 05937, 2006
teleGUISE_
ok..... fine but 1 last comment we have the ability to add an ar that says Foobar can be purchased at xyz... so what makes that any different?
2006-02-28 05917, 2006
rowaasr13
s/and then/or/
2006-02-28 05945, 2006
teleGUISE_
from what your saying we should not allow AR links to other sites and that ar type should be removed
2006-02-28 05933, 2006
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2006-02-28 05942, 2006
inhouseuk
the amazon one is sanctioned by MB because MB receives revenue from the sales
2006-02-28 05941, 2006
rowaasr13
What relation does that have to any kind of responsibility?
2006-02-28 05942, 2006
teleGUISE_
i understand .. i still dont think i explained myself correct.. im not saying link to the url that was added (anymore) im saying do exactly the same thing the picture does
2006-02-28 05954, 2006
teleGUISE_
im saying give the person a text based placeholder to buy the album from amazon in the sameway and give MB revenue from it
2006-02-28 05911, 2006
inhouseuk
teleGUISE_: set your amazon store to a different place and you'll see that link changes as well
2006-02-28 05944, 2006
teleGUISE_
what happens when i dont have a amazon store set.. as a person that doesn;t log in
2006-02-28 05954, 2006
teleGUISE_
it redirects the same
2006-02-28 05934, 2006
inhouseuk
not always, look at one of the mirror servers to see what happens
Just thought of something for HowToMergeArtists? What is our current policy on artists that release material under multiple names? (Perhaps they changed their name during their career)
2006-02-28 05953, 2006
inhouseuk
in general they shouldn't be merged
2006-02-28 05956, 2006
rowaasr13
I myself keep those separate.
2006-02-28 05936, 2006
teleGUISE_
ok when i access the DE server it shows NO images NOR any ASIN info regardless of logged in or not
2006-02-28 05939, 2006
rowaasr13
There's hard cases though, where name change is not major - like "move" -> "m.o.v.e" recently.
2006-02-28 05925, 2006
rowaasr13
Right now it is same entry with name changed. I'd prefer to keep those separate, but I think it is small enough change so people will be against it.
2006-02-28 05928, 2006
inhouseuk
the de server is a little broken and it is running an old server version
2006-02-28 05957, 2006
_ruaok scampers off
2006-02-28 05901, 2006
teleGUISE_
nl does the same NO images period NO asin period
2006-02-28 05916, 2006
inhouseuk
night _ruaok
2006-02-28 05919, 2006
teleGUISE_
oh duh... never mind my bad
2006-02-28 05921, 2006
teleGUISE_
night ruaok!
2006-02-28 05933, 2006
mustaqil_
Yay for scampering!
2006-02-28 05945, 2006
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mustaqil_
(Scampering reminds me of cute puppies with a bounce in their step, and puppies = happy Muz)
2006-02-28 05920, 2006
BGreeNZ_
BGreeNZ_ is now known as BGreeNZ
2006-02-28 05926, 2006
teleGUISE_
i added the asin's recently... it hasn't updated/mirrored yet .. must take a few hours
okay that mod would actually been applied to the DB at 01:00 UTC and would have been in the replication packet generated at 2006-02-28 01:01:10.67890 UTC
2006-02-28 05953, 2006
inhouseuk
I don't know when or how often the .nl server grabs replication packets
2006-02-28 05946, 2006
inhouseuk
I attempt to grab the next one at 7 minutes past each hour
2006-02-28 05947, 2006
teleGUISE_
well like i said the de nor the test server has the info..
2006-02-28 05909, 2006
teleGUISE_
ii manually added the asin to the test server now
2006-02-28 05933, 2006
inhouseuk
I believe the test server has static data, you can't login to a replicated server
2006-02-28 05934, 2006
teleGUISE_
so why dont i get images from your server?
2006-02-28 05933, 2006
inhouseuk
without look at the code and that specific album I'm not certain
so, what are you trying to prove? I given you all the reason why it isn't sensible to do with the amazon links and you continue to ignore what I am saying
2006-02-28 05901, 2006
teleGUISE_
does the first link take you to where your supposed to go?
2006-02-28 05953, 2006
inhouseuk
it takes me to the amazon.com which is not the store I have set
2006-02-28 05919, 2006
teleGUISE_
and clicking the image does something different?
2006-02-28 05923, 2006
inhouseuk
clicking on the album art takes me to amazon.co.uk which is where I would want to buy the album
