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      • _mo
        I'd love it infact
      • 2005-08-22 23437, 2005

      • fuchs joined the channel
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      • _mo
        add the old one as an alias and give use the mod. we'll vote it trough before any egoetnics starts protestign
      • 2005-08-22 23409, 2005

      • PRAEst76
        I don't mind so long as there are options in the tagger and site to translate foreign names
      • 2005-08-22 23432, 2005

      • PRAEst76
        Especially for those poor folks who don't have utf8 etc
      • 2005-08-22 23441, 2005

      • PRAEst76
        Their browsers will explode
      • 2005-08-22 23441, 2005

      • SenRepus
        me
      • 2005-08-22 23453, 2005

      • _mo
        that's why I want a russion transliteration etc
      • 2005-08-22 23404, 2005

      • _mo
        I want utf8 :(
      • 2005-08-22 23408, 2005

      • fuchs
        _mo: that's not what the voting system is about :)
      • 2005-08-22 23408, 2005

      • _mo
        but I cannot have
      • 2005-08-22 23410, 2005

      • uraani
        heh, I'd better not do that :) but why are japanese artists under their original name?? the russians are discriminated here :)
      • 2005-08-22 23413, 2005

      • PRAEst76
        "whats with all these artists called ??????????"
      • 2005-08-22 23438, 2005

      • uraani
        my computer supports russian characters, but everything japanese is all ????s to me.
      • 2005-08-22 23440, 2005

      • _mo
        uraani, do you know the transliteration of the name?
      • 2005-08-22 23453, 2005

      • _mo
        please change the name to that
      • 2005-08-22 23410, 2005

      • PRAEst76
        with utf8 most thingsappear nicely foreign
      • 2005-08-22 23422, 2005

      • _mo
        fuchs: if the mod is wrgn peopel won't vote 'yes' o nit anyway
      • 2005-08-22 23423, 2005

      • fuchs
        we should convert everything to phonetic script :)
      • 2005-08-22 23427, 2005

      • uraani
        _mo, i'm not sure 'cos I don't speak Russian, but I got that one from wikipedia
      • 2005-08-22 23433, 2005

      • _mo
        hmmm
      • 2005-08-22 23456, 2005

      • _mo
        but ad it as an alias atleast uraani
      • 2005-08-22 23414, 2005

      • MBChatLogger
        I hate the evil empire
      • 2005-08-22 23414, 2005

      • _mo
        also uraani, you can install japanese fonts.. they have them on :sudder: microsoft's website
      • 2005-08-22 23423, 2005

      • _mo
        yea whatever
      • 2005-08-22 23426, 2005

      • eMb
        virii
      • 2005-08-22 23430, 2005

      • fuchs
        well at least i can read russian and understand it a bit ;)
      • 2005-08-22 23438, 2005

      • _mo
        virii?
      • 2005-08-22 23442, 2005

      • eMb
        Virus.
      • 2005-08-22 23448, 2005

      • _mo
        o_O
      • 2005-08-22 23402, 2005

      • MBChatLogger
        I hate the evil empire
      • 2005-08-22 23402, 2005

      • eMb
        Microsoft's website == you're already infested.
      • 2005-08-22 23406, 2005

      • uraani
        _mo, the russian translitterations are already as aliases
      • 2005-08-22 23429, 2005

      • _mo
        but Idon't know wich one is the correctone?
      • 2005-08-22 23448, 2005

      • uraani
        and i'd better not install japanese fonts or i might end up voting randomly on japanese mods :P
      • 2005-08-22 23401, 2005

      • _mo
        :P
      • 2005-08-22 23420, 2005

      • PRAEst76
        I just have Japanese fonts so things look proper. I've no idea what they are about but they look tidy :)
      • 2005-08-22 23437, 2005

      • _mo
        ding
      • 2005-08-22 23447, 2005

      • _mo
        well I know one or two signs
      • 2005-08-22 23447, 2005

      • PRAEst76
        I installed russian fonts too because i hate the way russian websites looki if you don't have them installed
      • 2005-08-22 23448, 2005

      • SenRepus
        yea me too
      • 2005-08-22 23449, 2005

      • _mo
        'no'
      • 2005-08-22 23432, 2005

      • SenRepus
        i hardly remember any either
      • 2005-08-22 23449, 2005

      • SenRepus
        i should start studying again
      • 2005-08-22 23402, 2005

      • uraani
        I learnt hiragana and katakana a few years back when I took a japanese basics course at uni but I've forgotten 'em already
      • 2005-08-22 23431, 2005

      • uraani
        and the problem with tchaikovsky in russian is that nobody (including people who speak russian) seems to know whether his first name has umlauts or not
      • 2005-08-22 23413, 2005

      • fuchs
        uraani: ë is correct
      • 2005-08-22 23436, 2005

      • fuchs
        uraani: it's a jo instead of a je
      • 2005-08-22 23457, 2005

      • fuchs
        peter is always pjotr in russian
      • 2005-08-22 23434, 2005

      • uraani
        do russians usually make distinction between jo and je? because a lot of russian websites has the name without umlauts.
      • 2005-08-22 23447, 2005

      • fuchs
        yes, those are 2 different letters
      • 2005-08-22 23411, 2005

      • uraani
        ok, thanks. maybe I should take a russian course at uni so I'd learn to read those weird letters :)
      • 2005-08-22 23437, 2005

      • Shepard
        does someone know if {} are syntax chars in the MoinMoinWiki? ({{{}}} are)
      • 2005-08-22 23412, 2005

      • fuchs
        Shepard: not that i know
      • 2005-08-22 23431, 2005

      • fuchs
      • 2005-08-22 23450, 2005

      • Shepard
      • 2005-08-22 23453, 2005

      • Shepard ducks
      • 2005-08-22 23434, 2005

      • g0llum likes it. (in a
      • 2005-08-22 23441, 2005

      • g0llum
        yay. hit enter :)
      • 2005-08-22 23423, 2005

      • g0llum is in a non-critical mood. he likes everything
      • 2005-08-22 23450, 2005

      • _mo
        contralto
      • 2005-08-22 23454, 2005

      • _mo
        ?
      • 2005-08-22 23409, 2005

      • _mo
        also you misspeled baritone :)
      • 2005-08-22 23457, 2005

      • Shepard
        uh yes. well i don't know the other tones, you can add them if you want
      • 2005-08-22 23412, 2005

      • _mo
        I don't either
      • 2005-08-22 23417, 2005

      • _mo
        but heh..
      • 2005-08-22 23427, 2005

      • _mo
        you did the proposal, its your job ;)
      • 2005-08-22 23434, 2005

      • Shepard
        :/
      • 2005-08-22 23438, 2005

      • _mo
        wich reminds me...
      • 2005-08-22 23402, 2005

      • Shepard
        i have to ask clutcher later, maybe he can contribute there
      • 2005-08-22 23405, 2005

      • fuchs
        hmm, i fear the role thing isn't possible with the current implementation
      • 2005-08-22 23408, 2005

      • _mo
        yes!
      • 2005-08-22 23421, 2005

      • Shepard
        it is not, at the moment
      • 2005-08-22 23431, 2005

      • _mo
        he'll like the {role} thing.. fro classical operas.. very nice
      • 2005-08-22 23452, 2005

      • _mo
        but it wil lbe.. hopefully
      • 2005-08-22 23443, 2005

      • g0llum
        uhm. it's time for another sneak peek: http://g0llum.dyndns.org:9999/album/ade782f5-2a9e…
      • 2005-08-22 23456, 2005

      • eMb
        g0llum: Neat!
      • 2005-08-22 23404, 2005

      • _mo
        o_O
      • 2005-08-22 23405, 2005

      • _mo
        eek
      • 2005-08-22 23415, 2005

      • _mo
        FUCK
      • 2005-08-22 23418, 2005

      • _mo
        >_<
      • 2005-08-22 23420, 2005

      • eMb
        One question though, when the album isn't expanded - will you see the release date?
      • 2005-08-22 23443, 2005

      • _mo
        how do I have create a proper table with several things in it in moin?
      • 2005-08-22 23452, 2005

      • _mo
        <table><tr><td> doesn't work :/
      • 2005-08-22 23423, 2005

      • luks has quit
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      • Shepard
      • 2005-08-22 23438, 2005

      • g0llum
        mo: use pipe chars
      • 2005-08-22 23439, 2005

      • g0llum
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      • _mo
        I AM but I cant get the bulleted list ot work
      • 2005-08-22 23418, 2005

      • _mo
        you can only put on sentence, un dented in
      • 2005-08-22 23400, 2005

      • fuchs
        Shepard: yep, and it's hard to do, because there is no place where you could store the role string in the database ;)
      • 2005-08-22 23420, 2005

      • _mo
        a track annotation thingy?
      • 2005-08-22 23424, 2005

      • Shepard
        well I don't know the current db structure
      • 2005-08-22 23444, 2005

      • _mo
        there must be away to turn 'allow html codes' on in the moin
      • 2005-08-22 23416, 2005

      • _mo
        I want two bulleted lists side by side
      • 2005-08-22 23450, 2005

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      • eMb
        I strongly preffer CSS over tables.
      • 2005-08-22 23418, 2005

      • eMb
        *prefer
      • 2005-08-22 23438, 2005

      • _mo
        how is that even possible. can I do a div thing?
      • 2005-08-22 23446, 2005

      • eMb
        Yes.
      • 2005-08-22 23449, 2005

      • _mo
        oh!
      • 2005-08-22 23454, 2005

      • _mo
        how
      • 2005-08-22 23401, 2005

      • _mo
        <div> </div>?
      • 2005-08-22 23404, 2005

      • eMb
        Yes.
      • 2005-08-22 23408, 2005

      • _mo
        :p
      • 2005-08-22 23411, 2005

      • _mo
        ok then. I will
      • 2005-08-22 23412, 2005

      • eMb
      • 2005-08-22 23419, 2005

      • eMb
        Teaches you everything, almost.
      • 2005-08-22 23419, 2005

      • _mo
        I mean i nthe moinmoin!
      • 2005-08-22 23425, 2005

      • eMb
        moinmoin?
      • 2005-08-22 23436, 2005

      • _mo
        I know about alot of stuff. are you sure div can be used in moinmoin?
      • 2005-08-22 23445, 2005

      • eMb
        Oh, I see now.
      • 2005-08-22 23457, 2005

      • eMb
        I didn't know you meant in the context of moinmoin.
      • 2005-08-22 23403, 2005

      • _mo
        but of course!
      • 2005-08-22 23404, 2005

      • _mo
        >_<
      • 2005-08-22 23411, 2005

      • _mo
        else I woudl have simply used a table!
      • 2005-08-22 23424, 2005

      • eMb
        I have no idea then, but if they've done so much work on tables I doubt they've implemented CSS.
      • 2005-08-22 23432, 2005

      • _mo
        I might be daft when it coems to programing, but not when it coems to html and css <_<
      • 2005-08-22 23403, 2005

      • eMb
        :P
      • 2005-08-22 23402, 2005

      • fuchs
        Shepard: yeah, just telling you, AR is just linking together 2 entities with some predefined attributes (which can either be set or not, and have a predifined text), the role thing would need an exra collumn for the role and I don't think that will be implemented, because it would break the concept of the AR system
      • 2005-08-22 23453, 2005

      • _mo
        I dissagree. the role system is just a text ticket slapped onto a already predefined link. no?
      • 2005-08-22 23419, 2005

      • Shepard
        so is there no extra table for ARs?
      • 2005-08-22 23445, 2005

      • fuchs
        Shepard: there are extra tables for each link-type and for the attributes
      • 2005-08-22 23416, 2005

      • Shepard
        then it should be easily possible to add a column i think
      • 2005-08-22 23421, 2005

      • _mo
        ding
      • 2005-08-22 23429, 2005

      • fuchs
        Shepard: but none of them allows "additional" data other than the links, and the begin-end dates
      • 2005-08-22 23442, 2005

      • _mo
        that's soudl be easily done
      • 2005-08-22 23446, 2005

      • _mo
        it's just text
      • 2005-08-22 23447, 2005

      • fuchs
        actually not
      • 2005-08-22 23455, 2005

      • _mo
        whatever..
      • 2005-08-22 23403, 2005

      • _mo
        brb food
      • 2005-08-22 23452, 2005

      • g0llum
        fuchs, Shepard: IRC, ruaok said this proposal should be discussed out, then the dev's can see what they can do about it.what
      • 2005-08-22 23413, 2005

      • Shepard
        yes I know
      • 2005-08-22 23401, 2005

      • g0llum
        i know that you know
      • 2005-08-22 23439, 2005

      • Shepard
        :)
      • 2005-08-22 23451, 2005

      • fuchs has quit
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      • Shepard
        it is not possible to escape the syntax here: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/SearchToolsBookmarklet right?
      • 2005-08-22 23428, 2005

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      • eMb NP: The Mars Volta | De-Loused in the Comatorium | 09 | Televators [6:19]
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      • eMb
        aah
      • 2005-08-22 23447, 2005

      • Shepard np: Dream Theater - One Last Time (04:11min)
      • 2005-08-22 23451, 2005

      • Shepard
        :)
      • 2005-08-22 23452, 2005

      • fuchs np: Depeche Mode - In Your Room (Whispered Sex version)
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      • fuchs
        ;)
      • 2005-08-22 23404, 2005

      • PRAEst76
        Interesting mix title
      • 2005-08-22 23423, 2005

      • fuchs_ joined the channel
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      • fuchs_
        hmpf
      • 2005-08-22 23434, 2005

      • fuchs_
        why do they build network cables with such a tiny plastic holding "piece" (whatever the english word is, I don't even know the German), that breaks everytime you touch it? :)