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      • luks
        that song is remixed by 'Filterheadz'

        • 2005-05-18 13855, 2005

      • luks
        but, http://www.tursa.franken.de/pics/roll_wantmore1a.…

        • 2005-05-18 13849, 2005

      • Schrollum
        I'd go for Filterheadz

        • 2005-05-18 13803, 2005

      • Schrollum
        thinking of AR..

        • 2005-05-18 13831, 2005

      • Schrollum
        btw, this cover does say "Filterheadz": http://stat.discogs.com/R/301393-1111764646.jpg

        • 2005-05-18 13811, 2005

      • yalaforge
        Schrollum: disc IDs (CDIndexIds) are created by libmusicbrainz

        • 2005-05-18 13825, 2005

      • luks
        Schrollum: that with 'Filterhead' is promo release

        • 2005-05-18 13832, 2005

      • yalaforge
        the library gives you a URL to the website and lets you enter it

        • 2005-05-18 13802, 2005

      • Schrollum
        lets you enter what?

        • 2005-05-18 13821, 2005

      • yalaforge
        the cdindexId that libmusicbrainz created

        • 2005-05-18 13836, 2005

      • Schrollum
        ah

        • 2005-05-18 13810, 2005

      • yalaforge
        via the website you associate it with an album

        • 2005-05-18 13819, 2005

      • Schrollum
        so how does the website get the song length?

        • 2005-05-18 13856, 2005

      • yalaforge
        it's coded in the URL

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      • yalaforge
        Schrollum: http://mm.musicbrainz.org/bare/cdlookup.html?id=Z…

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      • Schrollum
        ah, I see

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      • DJKC
        cikkolata: got anything small with tags in id3v2.4 utf8 you can send so I can test something?

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      • cikkolata
        oh oops...

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      • DJKC
        cikkolata: ?

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      • cikkolata
        I was looking for one and got distracted

        • 2005-05-18 13814, 2005

      • DJKC
        ah

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      • ruaok
        cikkolata: that file I sent you yesterday qualifies, no?

        • 2005-05-18 13846, 2005

      • cikkolata
        oh!

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      • yalaforge
        morning ruaok

        • 2005-05-18 13857, 2005

      • cikkolata is still half asleep, it seems :)

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      • ruaok
        time-of-day!

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      • ValHallA|SW
        ValHallA|SW is now known as ValHallA|SW`gone

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      • g0llum
        ping

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      • ruaok
        pong

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      • cikkolata
        hi

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      • g0llum is watching the CC movie

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      • cikkolata
        hmm?

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      • g0llum
        http://mirrors.creativecommons.org/getcreative/cl…

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      • DJKC
        with hong kong?

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      • g0llum
        something ruaok and i are talking about

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      • cikkolata blinks at it

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      • ruaok waves at yllona

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      • ruaok
        yllona: I forwarded the chatlog comments to Derek.

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      • yllona
        hello ruoak and cikkolata. how are things?

        • 2005-05-18 13826, 2005

      • cikkolata
        I'm tired and confused, you?

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      • ruaok
        He was wondering -- was your CD Baby experience in some way weed related?

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      • ruaok
        good here.

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      • yllona
        ruoak: cool, he can email me if he need calrification

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      • ruaok
        I'm finally getting on top of my email. :-)

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      • ruaok
        yllona: got email?

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      • mo_out
        mo_out is now known as mo

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      • cikkolata
        hi mo!

        • 2005-05-18 13839, 2005

      • mo
        hi

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      • mo
        ruaok: did you read my message?

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      • yllona
        ruaok: no weed (thankfully) but I do work with a lot of unsigned musicians, so end of doing a lot of "pro bono" tech support as the musicians attempt to market their music.

        • 2005-05-18 13827, 2005

      • cikkolata
        this thing has sound, doesn't it?

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      • g0llum
        cikkolata: yep

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      • cikkolata
        is that why I'm confused?

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      • yllona
        i do have one friend on Cdbaby who's interested in the weed implementation though. we'll work on that when he gets back from the UK.

        • 2005-05-18 13839, 2005

      • g0llum
        may i ask what 'weed' is?

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      • mo
        I was wondering to

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      • yllona
        weedshare is a heavily DRM'd P2P network (windows media) that rewards it's users for sharing files.

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      • yllona
        http://weedshare.com/

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      • DJKC
        sounds nasty...

        • 2005-05-18 13854, 2005

      • ruaok thinks weed is a terrible name for a music service/system

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      • mo
        ;)

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      • ruaok
        The weed guy is a total stoner hippy too. Heh.

        • 2005-05-18 13821, 2005

      • ruaok
        mo: which message?

        • 2005-05-18 13827, 2005

      • cikkolata
        I was thinking that it seemed like a bad name.

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      • mo
        I typed it in irc when you wher sleeping

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      • yllona
        i think it's overly complex. a musician has to submit media field to a specialiized service to be encoded with the weed DRM, and only then can the files be placed on the network.

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      • ruaok
        mo: you want a 2.4 file?

        • 2005-05-18 13841, 2005

      • g0llum
        yllona: i guess you couldnt let users do the packaging themselves. drm *is* complex :/

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      • tru_
        ruaok: ah, you are back. they told me that I should talk to you if I wanted a pointer or two to find the unicode mess/problem in picard. I was looking trough the code the other day, but couldn't really figure out if the problem was in tunepimp or in picard. I would gladly help you with it if you gave me a few directions.

        • 2005-05-18 13855, 2005

      • yllona
        weed does seem to be very popular in the Christian music space

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      • ruaok
        tru_: LOL

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      • cikkolata
        who did?

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      • ruaok
        tru_: I was working on that LAST NIGHT.

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      • tru_
        haha.

        • 2005-05-18 13821, 2005

      • ruaok
        Its mainly a libtp issue.

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      • mo
        ruaok: basically I said that if you wanted to test the 2.4 thing on a windows system with a different set of iso(or what you call it. ��� and ���etc is all good in the mbtagger to me) you can send me a thing liek you did cikkolata

        • 2005-05-18 13827, 2005

      • ruaok
        And one that may very well be fixed now.

        • 2005-05-18 13849, 2005

      • ruaok
        mo: pmsg me your email again.

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      • cikkolata
        I can give him a link...

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      • mo
        I didn't eamil you :)

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      • ruaok
        cikkolata: ok, that's great -- thanks.

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      • mo
        oh, uou meab my adress

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      • tru_
        ruaok: Yeah I figured that. Because picard was using utf8 everywhere. but it seems like when you write the tag to the file it was written as utf8 even if the tag was version 2.3

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      • ruaok
        tru_: I'd still love for you to help with Picard...

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      • ruaok
        tru_: yes, that's the case.

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      • yllona
        g0llum: yep, i agree, but there must be some sort desktop tools that could be used. The thought of shipping of unreleased music to some "service" kind of makes me nervous. BTW, the encoding/DRM is a for fee service

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      • DJKC
        from what I was looking at earlier, almost nothing on windows supports v2.4 Some stuff would take utf-16 with bom in v2.4, a lot would choke on that, and nothing did utf8 in 2.4 100% correct

        • 2005-05-18 13814, 2005

      • tru_
        ruaok: sure. I'd have a look at the code when I am not sooo sooo tierd. Just came home from musicfestival in germany. 24hours on the bus and four days of alcohol and dancing ;)

        • 2005-05-18 13828, 2005

      • ruaok
        tru_: wow.

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      • tru_
        DJKC: it should write 2.3 tags with 2.4 as option IMHO

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      • ruaok
        where do you live?

        • 2005-05-18 13840, 2005

      • ruaok
        I just returned from Germany myself. :-)

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      • tru_
        since 2.3 is the most supported subset of id3v2

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      • tru_
        ruaok: sweden.

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      • ruaok
        DJKC: thanks for that feedback.

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      • g0llum
        yllona: no good :]

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      • cikkolata
        DJKC: what did? just fb2k?

        • 2005-05-18 13814, 2005

      • ruaok
        I'm really getting the idea that I need to keep 2.3 support.

        • 2005-05-18 13824, 2005

      • cikkolata
        ruaok: I *told* you windows users would be wanting utf-16 :P

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      • DJKC
        tru_: I'd prefer options for 2.3 or 2.4 and suboptions for iso8859, utf16 with bom, utf8, etc

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      • tru_
        DJKC: well...

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      • DJKC
        cikkolata: utf-16 in 2.4 worked in foobar and itunes

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      • ruaok
        DJKC: agreed.

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      • ruaok
        as much as I hate having to add more options like that, we need it.

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      • tru_
        id3v2 specifies what unicode that should be used.

        • 2005-05-18 13859, 2005

      • cikkolata
        does it need to be 2.3 for wmp?

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      • DJKC
        tru_: it lets you pick between those

        • 2005-05-18 13809, 2005

      • tru_
        2.3 = ucs16

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      • yllona
        g0llum: what's no good, the idea of a desktop tool fro DRM, or the for fee service

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      • tru_
        DJKC: yes, fallback on iso8859

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      • mo
        I can check that. wait a sec

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      • DJKC
        http://www.id3.org/id3v2.4.0-structure.txt I was reading it earlier

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      • cikkolata
        2.3 has iso-8859-1, utf-16 and utf-16-be

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      • ruaok
        2.3 and wmp = apples != oranges

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      • ruaok
        oh wait.