mo, you don't have to use the language thing; one of the nice things about using the titles as the determinant is that Matthias code can use the language guesser, and it will usually guess right (except for that 1% japanese stuff)
2005-05-12 13253, 2005
dupuy
so, "it just happens"
2005-05-12 13227, 2005
mo
... it quesses the script you mean? (AFAC on test)
2005-05-12 13249, 2005
dupuy
guessing script is very easy, and 99% accurate
2005-05-12 13257, 2005
mo
yes
2005-05-12 13216, 2005
dupuy
guessing language is a little bit harder, not much, and fairly accurate given a large corpus
2005-05-12 13223, 2005
dupuy
(body of works in the languages)
2005-05-12 13246, 2005
mo
it hasn't doe that for me so far on test, though
2005-05-12 13202, 2005
dupuy
I think that Dave actually may have added the code for that
2005-05-12 13234, 2005
dupuy
and if it doesn't yet, it is at least *possible* - guessing the language of lyrics that aren't stored in the DB is impossible
2005-05-12 13258, 2005
dupuy
and we don't store lyrics, and won't do so any time soon (i.e. ever)
2005-05-12 13230, 2005
mo
and we don't store if caps are intentionally supposed to be weird either. we get that info from other websites
2005-05-12 13242, 2005
mo
so why not what language?
2005-05-12 13254, 2005
mo
you keep sayign lyrics. I don't mean lyrics. lyrics are words of the song. I mean the language of the song. (wich is obtaniable fro mthe CD, sites etc)
2005-05-12 13223, 2005
mo
lyrics acan be transaliterated to. songs can't. they can be rerecoded and sung in a different language
2005-05-12 13234, 2005
mo
most opera would be italian fex
2005-05-12 13249, 2005
mo
exept requiem etf. woudl be latin
2005-05-12 13253, 2005
mo
as a language
2005-05-12 13258, 2005
mo
and then
2005-05-12 13236, 2005
mo
it is more often known what language song is sung in, people moderation that is who knowsa nd cares about it. like all other data.
2005-05-12 13208, 2005
mo
to determin the language based only on the title of the song.. well soem words are identical in soem languages.. take scandinavian languages
2005-05-12 13224, 2005
dupuy
that's another reason why we have to use titles, and not songs
2005-05-12 13248, 2005
dupuy
what language is beethoven's fifth symphony in?
2005-05-12 13207, 2005
dupuy
the title can be in german, english, japanese, whatever
2005-05-12 13208, 2005
mo
but asuming the song is not rerecored i na nother language. whatever the title is the language remains the same
2005-05-12 13239, 2005
mo
I don't think its right for a song in a language to be said to be another language just because the title happens to bein that language
2005-05-12 13226, 2005
mo
japanese transaliteratedtrasnalted albusm are not english and newer wil be, neithe is trasnaliterated russian, hebrew or what have you
2005-05-12 13243, 2005
mo
what is that band again.. bodom
2005-05-12 13246, 2005
dupuy
we don't say the song is anything, we just say the album titles are something
2005-05-12 13215, 2005
dupuy
remember, transliteration just changes the script, *not* the language
2005-05-12 13217, 2005
mo
yes but (I think) that we either need a second language table, or simply let the 'script' handle that
2005-05-12 13238, 2005
dupuy
but script can't handle translations of titles
2005-05-12 13259, 2005
dupuy
e.g. Beethoven's symphonies in english or german, script is latin either case
2005-05-12 13200, 2005
mo
a japanese trasnliterated/transalted album is top me japanese/latin
2005-05-12 13216, 2005
dupuy
transliterated, yes
2005-05-12 13220, 2005
mo
yes. but beethoves symphonies doesnt have words in them
2005-05-12 13237, 2005
dupuy
exactly my point
2005-05-12 13247, 2005
dupuy
by your definition, it has no language
2005-05-12 13256, 2005
mo
soldn't have a 'language' at all
2005-05-12 13257, 2005
Shepard` joined the channel
2005-05-12 13259, 2005
dupuy
by ours, the titles *do* have a language
2005-05-12 13216, 2005
mo
well I'd call written language script
2005-05-12 13228, 2005
dupuy
script is the characters you use to write it
2005-05-12 13231, 2005
mo
yes
2005-05-12 13243, 2005
mo
the characters made to create the words
2005-05-12 13250, 2005
mo
of a certan language
2005-05-12 13204, 2005
mo
german, english and norwegian are a*all* latin languages
2005-05-12 13219, 2005
mo
but only english is english spoken
2005-05-12 13233, 2005
mo
but all 3 uses latin script
2005-05-12 13250, 2005
mo
bbs
2005-05-12 13201, 2005
ruaok is away: bike ride
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dupuy has quit
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] <dupuy> that's enough; anyhow, i very much dislike making general rules based on DJKC's weird edge cases <--- hehe
