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      • mo
        I don't understand you'r question
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      • hdn has quit
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      • I`mCheGuevara has quit
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      • mo
        your
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      • donredman
        You did not feed babelfish something like:
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      • donredman
        do not understand german and I'm using. babelfish how stupid does this sentencelook to you?
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      • mo
        no I copy pasted it
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      • mo
        I do not understand german and I'm using babelfish. how stupid does this sentence look to you? :)
      • 2005-05-15 13511, 2005

      • mo
        that was it
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      • ruaok
        donredman: reading the related implementations, my gut feeling says that some of those features could also negatively impact the growth of the wiki itself.
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      • donredman
        God, humans are irreplacible
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      • mo
        sorry :(
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      • mo
        but atleast it made you all stop talikign in german :B
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      • donredman
        ruaok: what do you mean?
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      • ruaok
        anything that adds and extra layer for the common user is esstentially a hindrance, no?
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      • I has quit
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      • ruaok
        like the staged commits -- it involves more people to actually make changes to the DB.
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      • cikkolata blinks
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      • mo
        hi!
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      • mo gives cikkolata some ice cream
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      • donredman
        staged commits to the real wiki are a bad thing. WikiDocs will just have staged commits to the shadow wiki
      • 2005-05-15 13536, 2005

      • hdn``
        hdn`` is now known as hdn
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      • ruaok
        I'll have to consider these suggestions more carefully, but my gut instinct tells me that they could imact the natural growth of the wiki.
      • 2005-05-15 13543, 2005

      • ruaok nods
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      • mo
        hmm. transalted back it says "I do not understand that Germans and I use babelfish., how stupidly this sentence view you do?"
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      • mo
        not that bad. considering?
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      • mo
        considering
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      • Tatoo
        Tatoo is now known as Love
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      • donredman
        I just thought that perhaps the peri peri code coud give you some ideas of how to implement WikiDocs or how better not to do it.
      • 2005-05-15 13526, 2005

      • mo
        sorry for asking this question which I most probably won't understand the answer to but: what is a staged commit?
      • 2005-05-15 13533, 2005

      • donredman
        And basically I found that nobody has yet done what we are attempting to do :-)
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      • cikkolata
        mmm, ice cream...
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      • donredman
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      • mo
        I get a 'page can not be shown' error. only in norwegian since I have the Norwegian OS
      • 2005-05-15 13551, 2005

      • ruaok
        donredman: research like this is always good. :-)
      • 2005-05-15 13503, 2005

      • ruaok
        and yes, I don't think anyone has done what we're tying to do.
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      • Shepard
        hm i can open it
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      • mo
        well I cant :/
      • 2005-05-15 13532, 2005

      • ruaok
        fortunately, creating the shadow wiki and the scripts to post to it won't be much work.
      • 2005-05-15 13551, 2005

      • mo
        come to think about it I couldn't open zerogravitas thiny either. I though that was because he'd logged of already
      • 2005-05-15 13523, 2005

      • donredman
        Somewhere I added that the WikiWebService should seamlessly lead users to and fro the real wiki and the moderated wiki
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      • donredman
        is that feasible
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      • donredman looks for link
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      • cikkolata goes to bed...
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      • cikkolata
        natta mo, night everyone else
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      • donredman
        night
      • 2005-05-15 13513, 2005

      • mo
        I don't understand this shadow wiki concept. isn't it the "http://wikidocs.musicbrainz.org/write/" part and the non gosth wiki is "http://wikidocs.musicbrainz.org/write/" or am I totally p� b�rtir?
      • 2005-05-15 13514, 2005

      • Shepard
        night
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      • warp
        sweet dreams nikki
      • 2005-05-15 13519, 2005

      • mo
        night cikkolata
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      • donredman
        ruaok: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/wiki.pl?ModeratedWiki… below Suggestion: One webservice mirrors both wikis
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      • mo
        is the Shadow wiki the wikidocks.musicbrainz.org./write?
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      • donredman
        mo: no, everything will be rewritten. See http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/wiki.pl?WikiDocs
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      • mo
        and is the non shadow the http://www.musicbrainz.org/wd/
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      • mo
        ok the open sourse project with CVS comparison is not helping me at al, honnestly
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      • donredman
        why?
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      • mo
        WHY? because I'm not a coder/hacker intelingent person, thats *why*
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      • mo
        lol MeatBallWiki
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      • eMb
        There's a wiki book for meatballs?
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      • eMb
        Wow. That has to be Swedish.
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      • mo
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      • eMb
        <3 "köttbullar"
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      • mo
        XD!! Captain solo tried to install Periperi and encountered some [problems].
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      • mo
        WHO?!
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      • mo
        you mean kj�ttbullar?
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      • eMb
        japp :)
      • 2005-05-15 13501, 2005

      • eMb goes back to writing again
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      • donredman
        mo: I have explained the whole concept http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/wiki.pl?WikiDocsConce… without hacker talk
      • 2005-05-15 13526, 2005

      • mo
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      • Aariq
        I have a question about adding an album by the Parenthetical Girls
      • 2005-05-15 13544, 2005

      • mo
        ?
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      • Aariq
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      • Aariq
        its the one titled (((GRRRLS)))
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      • Aariq
        its a two disc set
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      • mo
        what about it?
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      • Aariq
        and each album is just a different mix
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      • Aariq
        so they have the same exact track listing
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      • Aariq
        but one is the O mix
      • 2005-05-15 13502, 2005

      • Aariq
        and one is the X mix
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      • mo
        so (((GRRRLS))) (disc 1) and (((GRRRLS))) (disc 2)
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      • Aariq
        right
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      • Aariq
        but is it ok to do (((GRRRLS))) (X mix)
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      • Aariq
        and (((GRRRLS))) (O mix)
      • 2005-05-15 13539, 2005

      • Aariq
        is that acceptable?
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      • mo
        so (((GRRRLS))) (mixed by 0) (disc 1) and (((GRRRLS))) (mixed by x) (disc 2)
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      • mo
        or is it not words?
      • 2005-05-15 13553, 2005

      • mo
        is the mix called 0 mix?
      • 2005-05-15 13556, 2005

      • Aariq
        yeah
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      • Aariq
        its mixed by a person though
      • 2005-05-15 13501, 2005

      • ruaok
        donredman: so with your new approach to things there is only one wiki?
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      • Aariq
        i could list that i suppose
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      • mo
        ok then I don't know
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      • mo
        hmm
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      • mo
        how complicated..
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      • mo
        hmm
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      • Aariq
        yeah...
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      • lindestinel
        I don't think it should be in the title
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      • donredman is cooking in parallel
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      • mo
        then so (((GRRRLS))) (disc 1: 0mix) and (((GRRRLS))) (disc 2: x mix) ??
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      • lindestinel
        or maybe (((GRRRLS))) (disc1: X mix)
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      • lindestinel
        lol
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      • mo
        haha beat you to it ;)
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      • lindestinel
        :p
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      • mo
        I was thinking it before you was :p
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      • lindestinel
        I don't think so
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      • mo
        did to
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      • donredman
        ruaok: Heute gibt es "Rest von gestern in der Pfanne"
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      • Aariq
        well, i guess its techinically "Side x" and "Side o"
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      • mo
        I type slow
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      • donredman
        Mein leibgericht :-)
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      • mo
        nein spracke germlish
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      • ruaok
        donredman: mit 'nen ei obendrauf oder reingemisscht?
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      • Aariq
        haha
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      • donredman
        reingemischt
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      • ruaok
        lol
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      • mo
        :)
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      • ruaok goes to prime the hot tub
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      • donredman
        ?
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      • mo
        uhm..
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      • mo
        ew?
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      • donredman is away: eating
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      • jmw has quit
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      • mo
        "IRC (this needs another WikiName BTW) " why does it? the only thing I can come up with is 'WhatisIRC' but thats non intiutive in sentences. while simply 'IRC' is
      • 2005-05-15 13519, 2005

      • Aariq
        what is the difference between an artist alias and the "performs as" relationship?
      • 2005-05-15 13531, 2005

      • Aariq
        is it a bad idea to use both?
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      • Shepard
        alias is for mistypings mostly
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      • Aariq
        ok
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      • mo
        and language thingies
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      • Shepard
        while "performs as" says that an artist has a performance name
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      • mo
        and different encodings or bogus encodings
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      • mo
        thanks Shepard for explaining
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      • Shepard
        well^^
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      • Shepard
        self explaining *g*
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      • Aariq
        ok
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      • Aariq
        so the same relationship shouldn't need to exist in both places
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      • Shepard
        right
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      • mo
        yay! another classical album was in the database already! this time my disc id was already attached even!
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      • eMb
        Classical albums are so hard to tag :/
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      • mo
        no I luff them :3
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      • eMb
        <3 classical music, yes, but not tagging it
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      • eMb
        It is "teh horror".
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      • mo pokes lindestinel, turn back into Kanmu so you start talking again!
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      • mo
        what do you mean 'tag'?
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      • mo
        mp3's using the tagger?