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      • Russss
        I dunno, are you?
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      • cikkolata
        aha
      • 2005-05-28 14813, 2005

      • cikkolata
        thanks!!
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      • cikkolata uses http instead of ftp and maxes out the connection...
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      • Russss
        ValHallA|SW`gone: if you meant our connection is capped, then I hope not given the thousands per month we're paying for it ;)
      • 2005-05-28 14828, 2005

      • Russss
        cikkolata: is your ibook narcoleptic?
      • 2005-05-28 14838, 2005

      • cikkolata
        hmm, no
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      • cikkolata
        it's just plain broken
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      • Russss
        heh
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      • ValHallA|SW`gone
        Russss: no, I meant the FTP server may cap the rate to 50KB/s per user :)
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      • cikkolata
        ah
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      • djce is back (gone 00:54:27)
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      • Russss
        hi djce
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      • djce
        hey Russss
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      • Russss
        there's another "SELECT oid" in MBImport.pl line 283ish
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      • Russss
        which just needs changing to SELECT 1
      • 2005-05-28 14857, 2005

      • Russss
        (the AR stuff finally persuaded me to actually make MBImport.pl work with our setup)
      • 2005-05-28 14821, 2005

      • djce greps source code
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      • djce
        I see them.
      • 2005-05-28 14827, 2005

      • djce
        I'll fix it now...
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      • Russss
        cool thanks
      • 2005-05-28 14819, 2005

      • Russss
        one less thing for us to worry about, since we upgraded to PG 8 we've had oids turned off. I'm not sure how much of a performance difference it really makes, but it makes me feel better.
      • 2005-05-28 14832, 2005

      • djce
        You're on the 20050527 branch now, yes?
      • 2005-05-28 14841, 2005

      • Russss
        yes, as of today
      • 2005-05-28 14855, 2005

      • djce
        Russss: committed to that branch.
      • 2005-05-28 14827, 2005

      • Russss
        well I fixed it myself for the mean time, but that's appreciated
      • 2005-05-28 14811, 2005

      • djce
        I thought you might :-)
      • 2005-05-28 14831, 2005

      • djce
        but as long as we at MB keep our CVS stuff in order, that's that problem gone for good.
      • 2005-05-28 14849, 2005

      • Russss
        I need to work out how to nicely do schema support too, at some point
      • 2005-05-28 14853, 2005

      • Russss
        but that's a little more tricky
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      • Russss
        did you get the one in ImportReplicationChanges too? :P
      • 2005-05-28 14831, 2005

      • djce
        yup
      • 2005-05-28 14846, 2005

      • Russss
        right, it's going now. Not entirely sure what went wrong before
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      • cikkolata looks amused
      • 2005-05-28 14823, 2005

      • cikkolata
        I managed to get hawaiian into the top languages.
      • 2005-05-28 14830, 2005

      • djce
        cool.
      • 2005-05-28 14836, 2005

      • cikkolata
        I wasn't even *trying*!
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      • eMb has quit
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      • eMbry00s is away: watching 'Requiem for a Dream'
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      • Russss
        djce: maybe there should be a mailing list for MB replication slaves, I tend to miss the bits added to the end of the update notifications
      • 2005-05-28 14822, 2005

      • Russss
        mb-slaves...heheheh
      • 2005-05-28 14821, 2005

      • g0llum
        hehe, that would be nice ;)
      • 2005-05-28 14822, 2005

      • djce
        You mean the server change logs?
      • 2005-05-28 14828, 2005

      • g0llum
        hi, btw
      • 2005-05-28 14844, 2005

      • Russss
        yes
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      • yokozuka
        question: when it says "all tracks written by Bjork, except track 2: written by foo, music composed by bar", does "written" mean composed, or does it refer to lyrics?
      • 2005-05-28 14857, 2005

      • djce
        hi g0llum . Ok Russss , seems quite sensible....
      • 2005-05-28 14859, 2005

      • Russss
        plus maybe for general replication discussion
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      • Russss
        djce: RJ just raised an interesting question: why do you only have an index on artist(name) and not on artist(upper(name))?
      • 2005-05-28 14856, 2005

      • Russss
        similarly with album and track
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      • djce
        Russss: ignorance, pure and simple.
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      • djce
        I've never yet used indexes on functions. Maybe it's time to start.
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      • mo
        hmm...
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      • mo
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      • djce is away: bye
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      • inhouseuk
        mo: if you have time can you explain the reason for the voting on http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=2787829 I've already attempted to pacify them on http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=2799289 and http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=2803301
      • 2005-05-28 14827, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        they seem to think the whole world (or me ) is against them
      • 2005-05-28 14849, 2005

      • yokozuka
        god, icelanders do have unpronounceable names: Gudrun Hrund Hardardottir (viola)
      • 2005-05-28 14805, 2005

      • mo
        I can pronounce that
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      • yokozuka
        you can?? I can't
      • 2005-05-28 14829, 2005

      • yokozuka
        how the hell do you pronounce "hrund" ?
      • 2005-05-28 14837, 2005

      • mo
        hrrund?
      • 2005-05-28 14851, 2005

      • mo
        I suppose it gets easier if you can roll arrs?
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      • inhouseuk
        don't icelandic and norwegian have a similar root
      • 2005-05-28 14854, 2005

      • mo
        jup
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      • mo
        icelandic is actually (along with foeryorsk) the languae most simmilar to old norse
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      • mo
        while modern norwegian is different by far. we have kept soem worsd and things
      • 2005-05-28 14808, 2005

      • mo
        (cant remember witch now though)
      • 2005-05-28 14846, 2005

      • mo
        inhouseuk I don't quite understand what is the problem. I just got the email of this moderation to (I checked my email just now) I havent seen any other mods or remember this guy before. i have changed my mod to 'abst' for the tiem being, is that what you wanted?
      • 2005-05-28 14806, 2005

      • mo
        what I meant was that that mod is wrong and that the reason he added it as nonalbum track was bercasue he didnt think that a bootleg tape was aplicable in our DB, (wich it *is*)
      • 2005-05-28 14831, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        yeah !
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      • inhouseuk
        exactly what I thought
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      • inhouseuk
        he also didn't like my comments on http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=2787480, but they sent that directly to me, it's not on the mod note
      • 2005-05-28 14804, 2005

      • mo
        I don't understand.. you don't see maggresive at all to me?
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      • mo
        this guy is weird o_O
      • 2005-05-28 14845, 2005

      • mo
        yees its a good thing he didnt bump into hairmetaladdict ;)
      • 2005-05-28 14857, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        basically I feel they are adding data that will only be of use to them and not anybody else. In which case we don't need it
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      • mo
        yes
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      • mo
        if others have this tape, itsa bootleg tape and can be added as such
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      • inhouseuk
        I'll see if he responds to my "constructive" comments :)
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      • cikkolata blinks
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      • inhouseuk
        hi cikkolata !
      • 2005-05-28 14821, 2005

      • cikkolata is scared of that guy!
      • 2005-05-28 14832, 2005

      • cikkolata
        hi inhouseuk!
      • 2005-05-28 14842, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        meta4?
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      • mo
        O_O
      • 2005-05-28 14814, 2005

      • yalaforge
        meta4? never seen!
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      • cikkolata
        yes
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      • cikkolata
        scary guy who takes everything too personally!
      • 2005-05-28 14805, 2005

      • mo
        yes!
      • 2005-05-28 14811, 2005

      • mo
        he called inhouseuk agressive?
      • 2005-05-28 14813, 2005

      • mo
        wtf!
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      • inhouseuk
        I might be direct - but not aggressive :)
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      • inhouseuk is like a kitten, cute but with sharp claws :)
      • 2005-05-28 14844, 2005

      • Russss
        a lot of people do think that people on MB are rude, but I can't really see why
      • 2005-05-28 14813, 2005

      • mo
        me either
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      • yokozuka
        yeah they should get a fucking clue, those morrons ! ,-)
      • 2005-05-28 14813, 2005

      • mo
        nono thats a.. oh wait you're being ironic now right?
      • 2005-05-28 14828, 2005

      • yokozuka
        what does the smiley tell you ;-)
      • 2005-05-28 14839, 2005

      • mo
        the problem is that soem peope ldon't have a sence of humor
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      • mo
        and they also often take things to personally
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      • inhouseuk
        with the number of new users that generate duff mods, we don't always have time to put more than a short sentence in the mod note when voting 'no'
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      • mo
        now *me* saying this might be a little two faced.. but I digress.. I have *reasons*
      • 2005-05-28 14837, 2005

      • yokozuka
        and some people have a weird sense of humor, but that's another problem
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      • mo
        I have a weird sence of humor! ;_;
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      • yokozuka
        well that's a problem ;-)
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      • mo
        no its not! :p
      • 2005-05-28 14824, 2005

      • yokozuka
        yes it is! :p
      • 2005-05-28 14831, 2005

      • mo
        whaa! youre mean!
      • 2005-05-28 14834, 2005

      • mo
        cikkolata!!
      • 2005-05-28 14836, 2005

      • mo
        whaaa
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      • Russss
        I'd like to get more people voting and commenting on MB mods
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      • mo
        AS peopel ?
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      • yokozuka
        woaa? no @op to go cry to?
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      • mo
        or people in general?
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      • Russss
        for whatever reason, the AS moderation system appeared to be a lot more friendly
      • 2005-05-28 14817, 2005

      • mo
        2op?
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      • yokozuka
        real people?
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      • Russss
        we had mods with 300 votes and 60 comments on
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      • mo
        that doesnt seem frindly to me, it seems stressy and anmasende
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      • mo
        erh.. distressing
      • 2005-05-28 14813, 2005

      • mo
        but I get liek that in crowds :)
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      • mo
        I'd like for NAT's to only be able to peoep lthats been on musicbrains for awhile
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      • mo
        or atleast make them *harder* to add
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      • mo
        they're to easy to add now
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      • Russss
        the trick is to get more people voting
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      • Russss
        there needs to be more incentive
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      • mo
        thats it totally
      • 2005-05-28 14828, 2005

      • mo
        true
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      • mo
        the thing is. I can vote alot. but if I have to a) explain everyvote and b) explain everyvote *again* it gets more 'arg why bother'
      • 2005-05-28 14837, 2005

      • mo
        I try to do it to newbies I see doing soem intersetign stuff. asking if what they are doing is wrong or not
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      • Russss
        I think people should comment if they're the first "no" voter.
      • 2005-05-28 14846, 2005

      • Russss
        I think people should comment if they're the first "no" voter.
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      • Russss
        heh
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      • mo
        they seem intereested in learning and usually are pretty sharp eough to understand that they don't know everything ;)
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      • yokozuka
        man... anyone who complains about my tags will get shot: