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      • SenRepus
        exactly the same?
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      • tma
        Closer (disc 1)
      • 2005-03-13 07210, 2005

      • tma
        March of the Pigs (disc 2)
      • 2005-03-13 07225, 2005

      • tma
        I don't see any harm in it
      • 2005-03-13 07256, 2005

      • SenRepus
        i agree that it should be labeled somehow, but not on how...
      • 2005-03-13 07209, 2005

      • cikkolata
        well, king adora's bionic is one of mine without the CD number on it, the covers are the same except one is gold and one is silver, they were released on the same day. that's the same as the manics one I linked to where the covers are different colours and they were released on the same day, except the manics ones say CD1/CD2/DVD on them.
      • 2005-03-13 07226, 2005

      • cikkolata shrugs
      • 2005-03-13 07238, 2005

      • cikkolata
        I'm not the person who needs convincing it's a good idea :)
      • 2005-03-13 07201, 2005

      • SenRepus
        i think it should somehow show that it isnt 2 cds in the same jewel, or whatever
      • 2005-03-13 07221, 2005

      • SenRepus
        (but, i havent got anything like this yet, so)
      • 2005-03-13 07230, 2005

      • cikkolata
        move here :P
      • 2005-03-13 07235, 2005

      • tma
        well, I tag my own versions with disc x. As is what happens with a lot of things in MB (ie: multiple artists) people tend to vote with their edits. If something becomes common practice, then it tends to become law.
      • 2005-03-13 07245, 2005

      • cikkolata
        when singles get released *without* a second CD, it's really odd.
      • 2005-03-13 07252, 2005

      • SenRepus
        lo
      • 2005-03-13 07253, 2005

      • SenRepus
        l
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      • DJKC
        mmm... Some bands manage to be amazingly inconsistent with their own names...
      • 2005-03-13 07209, 2005

      • tma
        Foetus? :)
      • 2005-03-13 07243, 2005

      • DJKC
        http://www.hpp-official.com/ no space in first word in the title. http://www.hpp-official.com/j.html space in the first word. If you look at the second page the first time their name occurs it has no space again, but the second time it's spaced
      • 2005-03-13 07233, 2005

      • DJKC
        the covers tend towards no space though
      • 2005-03-13 07244, 2005

      • tma
        DJKC: that said, the HTML title always has the space
      • 2005-03-13 07253, 2005

      • tma
        page title, I mean
      • 2005-03-13 07221, 2005

      • tma
        are the covers as "graphic artist" as the first page of the website?
      • 2005-03-13 07237, 2005

      • DJKC
        http://www.hpp-official.com/ except that page title doesn't have it
      • 2005-03-13 07252, 2005

      • DJKC
        which then says the copyright with it ^^;
      • 2005-03-13 07209, 2005

      • tma
        heh. go figure.
      • 2005-03-13 07224, 2005

      • DJKC
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      • DJKC
        fairly stylized
      • 2005-03-13 07255, 2005

      • tma
        do they respond to email?
      • 2005-03-13 07257, 2005

      • tma
        :)
      • 2005-03-13 07259, 2005

      • DJKC
        without the space is more common for the actual english word, I think, but with the space seems more prevalent on there
      • 2005-03-13 07245, 2005

      • DJKC
        haven't tried yet. about to though
      • 2005-03-13 07248, 2005

      • tma
        your call. It's inconsistently applied on the website; if it's fairly consistently applied on the releases themselves, then I'd go with the more common use from the releases.
      • 2005-03-13 07226, 2005

      • tma
        "official" websites are always a quandary, because you have to wonder how much involvement the artists themselves had in the website design.
      • 2005-03-13 07229, 2005

      • SenRepus
        indeed
      • 2005-03-13 07247, 2005

      • SenRepus
        or how devoted the person in charge of the website is to keeping it uptodate and complete
      • 2005-03-13 07203, 2005

      • tma
        ... and accurate
      • 2005-03-13 07216, 2005

      • DJKC
        it depends on the band
      • 2005-03-13 07218, 2005

      • tma
        (or precise. I'm undecided).
      • 2005-03-13 07232, 2005

      • SenRepus
        hehe
      • 2005-03-13 07238, 2005

      • DJKC
        some are just moneky making machines from the label, so the artist's involvement more or less doesn't matter
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      • DJKC
        and on the other end you have artists that do the website themselves
      • 2005-03-13 07256, 2005

      • DJKC
        (and it shows in the poor design, often)
      • 2005-03-13 07247, 2005

      • SenRepus
        bahaha
      • 2005-03-13 07249, 2005

      • tma
        I prefer bad designed with good info over good design and bad info
      • 2005-03-13 07203, 2005

      • tma
        at least with my band webpages, anyway
      • 2005-03-13 07208, 2005

      • SenRepus
        Acting or performing with care and precision; meticulous
      • 2005-03-13 07224, 2005

      • tma
        that's probably because I'm an information freak
      • 2005-03-13 07225, 2005

      • SenRepus
        a definition for precise
      • 2005-03-13 07226, 2005

      • SenRepus
        Exact, as in performance, execution, or amount; accurate or correct
      • 2005-03-13 07242, 2005

      • tma
        heh, circular definitions
      • 2005-03-13 07259, 2005

      • tma
        recurring, in fact
      • 2005-03-13 07225, 2005

      • SenRepus
        we once had it explained in a science class, however, i unfortunately cant remember how he put it
      • 2005-03-13 07251, 2005

      • SenRepus
        one is getting similar measurements every time, wrong or right
      • 2005-03-13 07259, 2005

      • SenRepus
        the other is always being near the correct
      • 2005-03-13 07206, 2005

      • SenRepus
        i think
      • 2005-03-13 07227, 2005

      • DJKC
        tma: good info is nice, yes
      • 2005-03-13 07245, 2005

      • DJKC
        but when they do neon or pastel colors on red backgrounds for all the text
      • 2005-03-13 07249, 2005

      • DJKC
        it's a bit painful
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      • SenRepus
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      • tma
        you can be completely accurate without being very precise. precision just tells you how accurate you could be.
      • 2005-03-13 07210, 2005

      • cikkolata
        that's why I love opera's user style thing, DJKC.
      • 2005-03-13 07211, 2005

      • DJKC
        anyway, most bands I'm used to have very accurate information on their home pages. Apprently it's some Japanese thing, because most English and Spanish artists I listen to have godawful homepages
      • 2005-03-13 07231, 2005

      • DJKC
        Iv'e seen cikkolata randomly venting about that in the last few weeks too
      • 2005-03-13 07238, 2005

      • cikkolata
        yes.
      • 2005-03-13 07246, 2005

      • cikkolata
        japan is just awesome.
      • 2005-03-13 07201, 2005

      • cikkolata
        I have trouble with korean and chinese and thai and german too.
      • 2005-03-13 07210, 2005

      • tma
        I think the Japanese have a thing about precision. :)
      • 2005-03-13 07216, 2005

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      • tma
        or is that Germans. I forget.
      • 2005-03-13 07254, 2005

      • DJKC
        korea seems to vary
      • 2005-03-13 07255, 2005

      • SenRepus
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      • DJKC
        some have excellent home pages, some I'm stuck with finding as many stores listing the album as possible
      • 2005-03-13 07214, 2005

      • DJKC
        and going with whatever seems most common
      • 2005-03-13 07214, 2005

      • tma
        yuk
      • 2005-03-13 07221, 2005

      • T1_Red_Alarm
        good morning - I've got a weird issue w/ MB and I hope someong can give some advice
      • 2005-03-13 07224, 2005

      • DJKC
        the thai and chinese ones just suck though
      • 2005-03-13 07242, 2005

      • tma
        T1_Red_Alarm: we are but human, and can only but try
      • 2005-03-13 07253, 2005

      • tma
        :)
      • 2005-03-13 07253, 2005

      • DJKC
        and I'd say it's both the Japanese and the Germans when it comes to that precision thing
      • 2005-03-13 07254, 2005

      • tma
        j/k
      • 2005-03-13 07202, 2005

      • tma
        T1_Red_Alarm: what's up?
      • 2005-03-13 07218, 2005

      • T1_Red_Alarm
        well, it's like this. you know the column headings in MB? Like Track, Artist, Album, etc?
      • 2005-03-13 07230, 2005

      • tma
        vaugely
      • 2005-03-13 07246, 2005

      • DJKC
        but in Japan's case to some degree the widespread accurate info seems to be related to the popularity of karaoke. Need to be able to find the exact name and lyrics of a song to be able to sing it, after all
      • 2005-03-13 07252, 2005

      • T1_Red_Alarm
        I resized the first column by mistake to the entire width of the screen
      • 2005-03-13 07232, 2005

      • T1_Red_Alarm
        now, there are NO columns, at all. and I can't sort. I have completely removed and reinstalled, but the columns don't come back
      • 2005-03-13 07234, 2005

      • SenRepus
        (that link i gave was an example of the sites DJKC was mentioning, artist made band sites that hurt the face.) and it has a picture of a guy playing GBA while driving
      • 2005-03-13 07246, 2005

      • cikkolata
        korea does vary, the stuff I try to find is a pain.
      • 2005-03-13 07204, 2005

      • tma
        T1_Red_Alarm: ahh, you must be referring to the tagger?
      • 2005-03-13 07210, 2005

      • T1_Red_Alarm
        yes, sorry
      • 2005-03-13 07228, 2005

      • SenRepus
        ...
      • 2005-03-13 07228, 2005

      • tma
        ok .. hmm .. do you get a scrollbar at the bottom of the display?
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      • DJKC
        one of my friends has done that. during a blizzard where we could only go 20-25miles/hour, so he pulled out his GBA on the basis that it was safe because of how slow we were going -__;
      • 2005-03-13 07241, 2005

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      • SenRepus
        the scrollbar doesnt scroll the coumn bars
      • 2005-03-13 07254, 2005

      • tma
        damn
      • 2005-03-13 07215, 2005

      • SenRepus
        Red... can you increase the resolution of your moniter and maximize the tagger and get it that way?
      • 2005-03-13 07228, 2005

      • SenRepus
        it shouldnt be able to be any longer than slightly longer than your current resolution, should it?
      • 2005-03-13 07237, 2005

      • T1_Red_Alarm
        yes, I do get the scrollbay, and all the info is there, but it's about three screen widths wide, and there is no headings (or deviders)
      • 2005-03-13 07246, 2005

      • tma
        ok. try this. move the window as far left as you can, so that the left side is off the screen. then resize the window as far right as you can (so that it's now bigger than the screen). keep doing this until you can see the end of the first column.
      • 2005-03-13 07254, 2005

      • DJKC
        it's in the registry, it looks like
      • 2005-03-13 07256, 2005

      • tma
        then you can move the column back to normal size
      • 2005-03-13 07202, 2005

      • T1_Red_Alarm
        k, standby
      • 2005-03-13 07202, 2005

      • DJKC
        probably easier to close the program and change the key back
      • 2005-03-13 07206, 2005

      • tma
        otherwise you'll need to do some registry hacks
      • 2005-03-13 07224, 2005

      • T1_Red_Alarm
        you guys rock! DUHHH.....why didn't I think about that? thanks!
      • 2005-03-13 07227, 2005

      • tma
        np :)
      • 2005-03-13 07229, 2005

      • tma
        see what 5 years in tech support gets you? :)
      • 2005-03-13 07218, 2005

      • tma
        How about that. "Ner" doesn't appear to be in the dictionary. At least, not in the sense of "so ner!". Maybe I'm spelling it wrong.
      • 2005-03-13 07218, 2005

      • T1_Red_Alarm has quit
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      • SenRepus
        Ner is a band?
      • 2005-03-13 07230, 2005

      • tma
        No, "ner" is a word. As in, I know the meaning of the word "ner", so ner!
      • 2005-03-13 07240, 2005

      • cikkolata
        thingy isn't in the dictionary either.
      • 2005-03-13 07249, 2005

      • cikkolata
        but I say thingy all the time.
      • 2005-03-13 07258, 2005

      • SenRepus
        i misread...
      • 2005-03-13 07209, 2005

      • SenRepus
        i dont think ive ever heard anyone say ner...
      • 2005-03-13 07216, 2005

      • cikkolata
        I have.
      • 2005-03-13 07227, 2005

      • cikkolata
        kids seem fond of it.
      • 2005-03-13 07229, 2005

      • tma
        usually it's followed by someoen sticking out their tongue
      • 2005-03-13 07230, 2005

      • tma
        :)
      • 2005-03-13 07245, 2005

      • cikkolata
        or a long string of ners.
      • 2005-03-13 07259, 2005

      • tma
        closely related to "nah nah nah, nah nah, nah, you can't catch me"
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      • SenRepus
        i was about to ask if it was
      • 2005-03-13 07213, 2005

      • SenRepus
        nyah!
      • 2005-03-13 07223, 2005

      • SenRepus
        ok so i have a question...
      • 2005-03-13 07256, 2005

      • SenRepus
        im pretty oblivious when it comes to the hardware half of computers, moreso than i am of the software half
      • 2005-03-13 07212, 2005

      • SenRepus
        if i go to a store and buy RAM is it going to fit in my 'puter?
      • 2005-03-13 07235, 2005

      • tma
        I got stuck on the definition of "weeyulcum" until I worked out it was vernacular
      • 2005-03-13 07243, 2005

      • tma
        interesting word to search for on Google though
      • 2005-03-13 07255, 2005

      • tma
        SenRepus: well, that depends on a number of things
      • 2005-03-13 07243, 2005

      • tma
        (interesting in that there is only one result on Google)
      • 2005-03-13 07259, 2005

      • tma
        SenRepus: how old is your computer?
      • 2005-03-13 07209, 2005

      • tma
        SenRepus: if your computer is more than 3-4 years old, then it may have SDRAM. If it's newer, it's probably got DDR RAM, which is the most common at the moment. There was also a period where they sold RDRAM, but it's not too common.
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      • tma
        SenRepus: most likely you just want DDR RAM. Unless you're running a very fast system on the edge of the speed barrier then any bog standard DDR RAM you get should be fine. If in doubt, open your computer and take out one of the ram sticks and show it to your computer guy, and get ram to match it.
      • 2005-03-13 07249, 2005

      • tma
        hope that helps
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      • tma
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      • cikkolata
        didn't someone link to that sometime lately?
      • 2005-03-13 07217, 2005

      • tma
        yeah, I mentioned it on the list, and someone found it for me
      • 2005-03-13 07221, 2005

      • cikkolata
        ah
      • 2005-03-13 07242, 2005

      • tma
        it's a classic. For me, anyway. :)
      • 2005-03-13 07234, 2005

      • tma
        oh yeah, I promised Rob I'd get a t-shirt made up with that image on it. I'll have to arrange that for his next birthday... I didn't get a response from PA about it when I asked, so I'll assume that don't care.
      • 2005-03-13 07215, 2005

      • DJKC
        most likely not. they've always seemed fairly fan friendly
      • 2005-03-13 07231, 2005

      • DJKC
        and I do like how that comic is the top result on google for "shitcock"
      • 2005-03-13 07235, 2005

      • DJKC
        that's how I always go about finding it
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      • tma chuckles
      • 2005-03-13 07245, 2005

      • cikkolata adds chuckles to the list of words to use when giggling
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      • DJKC
        I prefer "/me glees" for conveying that
      • 2005-03-13 07213, 2005

      • DJKC
        there's always squeeing as an option too
      • 2005-03-13 07229, 2005

      • tma
        chortles, cavorts