you'll live if they don't get accepted straight away :P
2005-03-05 06401, 2005
SenRepus is bored
2005-03-05 06412, 2005
SenRepus
'tis all
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somnolent
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cikkolata
after too much adding japanese stuff, the rest of the world seems completely unorganised and useless.
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DJKC
cikkolata: agreed ^^
2005-03-05 06424, 2005
cikkolata
bleh
2005-03-05 06433, 2005
cikkolata
gah, completely useless.
2005-03-05 06425, 2005
cikkolata giggles
2005-03-05 06430, 2005
cikkolata
I'm watching the video for h!p all stars - all for one & one for all and the first thing that comes to mind is "wow, I bet that'd be hell to do with AR..."
2005-03-05 06414, 2005
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2005-03-05 06416, 2005
StupidMop
anyone here use the MusicBrainz perl modules to access the MusicBrainz data? I was having issues with those modules and was worndering if anyone with perl knowlege was around
2005-03-05 06429, 2005
cikkolata
maaaybe.
2005-03-05 06436, 2005
cikkolata
ask anyway.
2005-03-05 06440, 2005
StupidMop
okay!
2005-03-05 06402, 2005
StupidMop
when you install the MusicBrainz.pm there is a simple_demo.pl that comes with. it does a simple lookup to MusicBrainz. When I run that script from the commandline, it says it can't reach the musicbrainz server. But when i run it form Komodo(perl editor) it runs fine and gets the data
2005-03-05 06442, 2005
StupidMop
the same is true for perl scripts i've written as well. Why does that happen? and how can i get it to work from the commandline?
2005-03-05 06449, 2005
StupidMop
(i'm on Win32 with perl 5.8)
2005-03-05 06449, 2005
ramoz
sounds like a firewall issue or something
2005-03-05 06417, 2005
StupidMop
Firewall... hmmm... i guess the router could be blocking ports or something, but i don't know.... why would it work fine from the editor? and it also works fine when i use the standard MusicBrainz tagger...
2005-03-05 06421, 2005
cikkolata
oh, you're the guy who posted to the mailing list?
2005-03-05 06428, 2005
StupidMop
yea
2005-03-05 06434, 2005
StupidMop
hmm
2005-03-05 06452, 2005
StupidMop
there is something about setting a proxy from perl. Would that help in my situation?
2005-03-05 06400, 2005
StupidMop
$mb->set_proxy($serverAddr, $serverPort);
2005-03-05 06428, 2005
cikkolata
do you need a proxy?
2005-03-05 06443, 2005
StupidMop
no. i don't usually use one.
2005-03-05 06401, 2005
cikkolata
hmm
2005-03-05 06411, 2005
cikkolata
I found something mentioning it, but it's japanese.
2005-03-05 06416, 2005
cikkolata
DJKC: ping!
2005-03-05 06419, 2005
cikkolata
not that it appears to be any help.
2005-03-05 06454, 2005
StupidMop
:-\
2005-03-05 06414, 2005
StupidMop
i mentioned the proxy thing before only becuase out of ideas to try...
2005-03-05 06424, 2005
cikkolata
hmm.
2005-03-05 06426, 2005
cikkolata
bizarre.
2005-03-05 06441, 2005
StupidMop
that's me.
2005-03-05 06445, 2005
cikkolata
the obvious solution is to use linux! :D
2005-03-05 06452, 2005
StupidMop
i know!
2005-03-05 06455, 2005
cikkolata points out the completely unhelpful answer :P
2005-03-05 06423, 2005
StupidMop
the thing is i want the thing i'm making to be cross-platform, so it should work on Win32 as well
2005-03-05 06455, 2005
cikkolata
thing?
2005-03-05 06459, 2005
StupidMop
i couldn't get the MusicBrainz.pm to be installed correctly under cygwin either :-\ but that's another issue
2005-03-05 06421, 2005
StupidMop
"thing" yes :-) i'm not sure exactly what it will be...yet..
2005-03-05 06439, 2005
cikkolata
"I'm coding! I don't know what I'm coding, but I'm coding!"
2005-03-05 06452, 2005
StupidMop says don't laugh at me
2005-03-05 06401, 2005
cikkolata
:)
2005-03-05 06424, 2005
cikkolata
I'm... uh... passing the time! :)
2005-03-05 06404, 2005
cikkolata
the japanese thing says dll in it.
2005-03-05 06414, 2005
StupidMop
right now i'm jsut trying to get it to access mb reliably before i get indepth into the coding
2005-03-05 06429, 2005
cikkolata
wow, you're so organised.
2005-03-05 06435, 2005
cikkolata
I usually end up doing things backwards
2005-03-05 06448, 2005
StupidMop
me too!
2005-03-05 06403, 2005
StupidMop
but this is something i eventually want to put on sourceforge and and have it be cooL
2005-03-05 06430, 2005
cikkolata ponders going to the shop while she waits for grep
2005-03-05 06443, 2005
StupidMop
i guess it's because i want other people to help with, so i'm being neater and more organized... if it's just me, it's a little more messy
2005-03-05 06416, 2005
StupidMop
grrr... it's just frustraing now...
2005-03-05 06409, 2005
StupidMop
okay..
2005-03-05 06417, 2005
StupidMop
I am on Tech Support with Linksys
2005-03-05 06435, 2005
StupidMop
they are trying to help me...
2005-03-05 06441, 2005
StupidMop
Waht port would a perl script use?
2005-03-05 06451, 2005
StupidMop
(this is on win32, if that makes a difference)
2005-03-05 06414, 2005
cikkolata
uh... I imagine it's a normal GET or POST or something, so 80
2005-03-05 06435, 2005
StupidMop
that's what i thought...
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Muti
uhm, I doubt it's a firewall issue if you can access port 80 via a web browser on your computer
2005-03-05 06459, 2005
StupidMop
that's the wierd thing..
2005-03-05 06427, 2005
StupidMop
browsers work fine. musicbrainz tagger works fine. perl script works fine from Komodo(perl editor) but when i run it from the commandline, nothing
2005-03-05 06437, 2005
Muti
so hang up with linksys. =)
2005-03-05 06445, 2005
StupidMop
fortuneatly they have an over the web live support chat i started using...and at first she almost seemd helpfull talking about 'port triggering' and stuff.... but she kinda dropped off :-\
2005-03-05 06411, 2005
Muti
yeah, they are not going to be able to help you, i promise
2005-03-05 06429, 2005
StupidMop
oh yea? can you help me!? i need help!
2005-03-05 06435, 2005
StupidMop needs help in more ways then one
2005-03-05 06455, 2005
Muti
install ethereal, see if the script even attempts to connect to musicbrainz.org when you run from the command line
in ethereal, can i filter out certain requests? so i don't see the gotomypc.com and freenode stuff?
2005-03-05 06433, 2005
Muti
yes, when you begin a capture there is a line where you can type in a filter, type "port 80"
2005-03-05 06438, 2005
Muti
or "host musicbrainz.org"
2005-03-05 06403, 2005
StupidMop
let me try again..
2005-03-05 06423, 2005
DJKC
what's a PPM?
2005-03-05 06427, 2005
DJKC
in perl terms
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cikkolata
perl module I think
2005-03-05 06442, 2005
cikkolata
I'm not sure
2005-03-05 06448, 2005
cikkolata
something to do with activestate's perl, afaik
2005-03-05 06423, 2005
DJKC
says there are win32 ppms but using his own activeperl build he installed it but got taht error, possibly because of teh dll's fault
2005-03-05 06456, 2005
StupidMop
okay. PPM is the Win32 way to install perl *.pm modules
2005-03-05 06413, 2005
cikkolata
so someone else has that error... hmmm.
2005-03-05 06431, 2005
StupidMop
i have perl 5.8 and the latest and greatest MusicBrainz PPM modules
2005-03-05 06411, 2005
StupidMop
Muti: as for eatheral. i set it to only check that host. Then i used the MusicBrainz script from my editor(and it was a success) then form the commandline (failure)
2005-03-05 06431, 2005
StupidMop
i need help interpritating the data eathreral has
2005-03-05 06434, 2005
StupidMop
:-(
2005-03-05 06441, 2005
Muti
well, when you tried from the command line did you see any packets at all to musicbrainz?
2005-03-05 06447, 2005
Muti
or just nothing?
2005-03-05 06452, 2005
StupidMop
i opened eartheral and set it to only look at host musicbrainz.org and then i ran the script form the commandline twice and it didn't capture any packets taht time
2005-03-05 06439, 2005
Muti
yeah, so something is up with perl and whatever tcp library it's using
2005-03-05 06454, 2005
cikkolata
I'm getting the same error.
2005-03-05 06455, 2005
Muti
I really don't know much about perl, and I really know hardly anything about musicbrainz perl implementation
2005-03-05 06406, 2005
cikkolata prods things
2005-03-05 06435, 2005
StupidMop
Thank you for your assitance Muti!
2005-03-05 06458, 2005
Muti
for what it's worth, you're welcome. =)
2005-03-05 06426, 2005
StupidMop
but the weird thing is that i can use other scripts that go to the intenet and fetch things...hmm... at least i could *in the past*!... hmmmm...
2005-03-05 06421, 2005
cikkolata tries getting komodo
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Knio-sleep
Knio-sleep is now known as Knio
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SenRepus
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StupidMop
other perl scripts seem to access the net fine
2005-03-05 06418, 2005
StupidMop
blah! :-\
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yalaforge
still trouble with the perl bindings?
2005-03-05 06409, 2005
StupidMop
yes
2005-03-05 06437, 2005
StupidMop
it's very frustrating
2005-03-05 06440, 2005
yalaforge
the reason is probably that the perl bindings don't access the mb server the "normal" way
2005-03-05 06453, 2005
yalaforge
they use libmusicbrainz
2005-03-05 06411, 2005
yalaforge
which is a C library and the backend of the perl bindings
