#musicbrainz

cikkolata: have you heard "Bite" at all?

by U17

don't think so

it's not on any of their best albums, nor any singles I think

then no

it's from the same game as Extensions/Okashi na Onna no Ko

but while there was a single for those two it's just on the game OST

SenZZZZZ is now known as SenRepus

you'll live if they don't get accepted straight away :P

'tis all

somnolent is now known as somniloquy

after too much adding japanese stuff, the rest of the world seems completely unorganised and useless.

cikkolata: agreed ^^

bleh

gah, completely useless.

I'm watching the video for h!p all stars - all for one & one for all and the first thing that comes to mind is "wow, I bet that'd be hell to do with AR..."

anyone here use the MusicBrainz perl modules to access the MusicBrainz data? I was having issues with those modules and was worndering if anyone with perl knowlege was around

maaaybe.

ask anyway.

okay!

when you install the MusicBrainz.pm there is a simple_demo.pl that comes with. it does a simple lookup to MusicBrainz. When I run that script from the commandline, it says it can't reach the musicbrainz server. But when i run it form Komodo(perl editor) it runs fine and gets the data

the same is true for perl scripts i've written as well. Why does that happen? and how can i get it to work from the commandline?

(i'm on Win32 with perl 5.8)

sounds like a firewall issue or something

Firewall... hmmm... i guess the router could be blocking ports or something, but i don't know.... why would it work fine from the editor? and it also works fine when i use the standard MusicBrainz tagger...

oh, you're the guy who posted to the mailing list?

yea

hmm

there is something about setting a proxy from perl. Would that help in my situation?

$mb->set_proxy($serverAddr, $serverPort);

do you need a proxy?

no. i don't usually use one.

hmm

I found something mentioning it, but it's japanese.

DJKC: ping!

not that it appears to be any help.

:-\

i mentioned the proxy thing before only becuase out of ideas to try...

hmm.

bizarre.

that's me.

the obvious solution is to use linux! :D

i know!

the thing is i want the thing i'm making to be cross-platform, so it should work on Win32 as well

thing?

i couldn't get the MusicBrainz.pm to be installed correctly under cygwin either :-\ but that's another issue

"thing" yes :-) i'm not sure exactly what it will be...yet..

"I'm coding! I don't know what I'm coding, but I'm coding!"

:)

I'm... uh... passing the time! :)

the japanese thing says dll in it.

right now i'm jsut trying to get it to access mb reliably before i get indepth into the coding

wow, you're so organised.

I usually end up doing things backwards

me too!

but this is something i eventually want to put on sourceforge and and have it be cooL

i guess it's because i want other people to help with, so i'm being neater and more organized... if it's just me, it's a little more messy

grrr... it's just frustraing now...

okay..

I am on Tech Support with Linksys

they are trying to help me...

Waht port would a perl script use?

(this is on win32, if that makes a difference)

uh... I imagine it's a normal GET or POST or something, so 80

that's what i thought...

uhm, I doubt it's a firewall issue if you can access port 80 via a web browser on your computer

that's the wierd thing..

browsers work fine. musicbrainz tagger works fine. perl script works fine from Komodo(perl editor) but when i run it from the commandline, nothing

so hang up with linksys. =)

fortuneatly they have an over the web live support chat i started using...and at first she almost seemd helpfull talking about 'port triggering' and stuff.... but she kinda dropped off :-\

yeah, they are not going to be able to help you, i promise

oh yea? can you help me!? i need help!

install ethereal, see if the script even attempts to connect to musicbrainz.org when you run from the command line

what is ethereal? where can i get it?

ethereal is a packet sniffer, http://www.ethereal.com/distribution/win32/

install winpcap and then ethereal

..installing..

okay. installed.

both winpcap and ethereal

now what do i want to setup and run?

well, you'll want to start a packet sniff looking for packets to mm.musicbrainz.org (most likely)

okay..hmm... let me try...

okay...

i think i see it... i see it trying to go to 66.151.158.177

and i believe that is the musicbrainz server

that's poll.gotomypc.com

oh! okay..

windump is a nice and somewhat simpler to me than ethereal utility for it

musicbrainz is 216.218.240.152

what about 212.204.214.114

just a windows port of tcpdump that uses winpcap and has some windows specifics modifications

DJKC: can I leech your japanese knowledge? http://www.doblog.com/weblog/myblog/428/9956#9956

that's sterling.freenode.net

cikkolata: what specifically?

the bit about can't connect to mm.musicbrainz.org

in ethereal, can i filter out certain requests? so i don't see the gotomypc.com and freenode stuff?

yes, when you begin a capture there is a line where you can type in a filter, type "port 80"

or "host musicbrainz.org"

let me try again..

what's a PPM?

in perl terms

perl module I think

I'm not sure

something to do with activestate's perl, afaik

says there are win32 ppms but using his own activeperl build he installed it but got taht error, possibly because of teh dll's fault

okay. PPM is the Win32 way to install perl *.pm modules

so someone else has that error... hmmm.

i have perl 5.8 and the latest and greatest MusicBrainz PPM modules

Muti: as for eatheral. i set it to only check that host. Then i used the MusicBrainz script from my editor(and it was a success) then form the commandline (failure)

i need help interpritating the data eathreral has

:-(

well, when you tried from the command line did you see any packets at all to musicbrainz?

or just nothing?

i opened eartheral and set it to only look at host musicbrainz.org and then i ran the script form the commandline twice and it didn't capture any packets taht time

yeah, so something is up with perl and whatever tcp library it's using

I'm getting the same error.

I really don't know much about perl, and I really know hardly anything about musicbrainz perl implementation

Thank you for your assitance Muti!

for what it's worth, you're welcome. =)

but the weird thing is that i can use other scripts that go to the intenet and fetch things...hmm... at least i could *in the past*!... hmmmm...

Knio-sleep is now known as Knio

SenRepus is now known as SenMOHAA

other perl scripts seem to access the net fine

blah! :-\

still trouble with the perl bindings?

yes

it's very frustrating

the reason is probably that the perl bindings don't access the mb server the "normal" way

they use libmusicbrainz

which is a C library and the backend of the perl bindings