17:16 PM
Shepard
i can't see that char here, sorry
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17:16 PM
luks
hehe
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17:17 PM
fuchs
still Пётр Ильич Чайковский :)
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17:17 PM
Shepard
urgs
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17:17 PM
fuchs
and wrong sortname :)
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17:18 PM
Shepard
at least the sortname should not be kyrillic because we use latin sorting
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17:19 PM
fuchs
but latin transliteration would start with C
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17:19 PM
luks
ok, C. but definitely not T
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17:20 PM
Shepard
one step towards i18n would be adding name fields for every char system and selecting by user settings
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17:22 PM
fuchs
you would have to add a name field for every language in this case
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17:22 PM
Shepard imagines what cool things we could do
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17:23 PM
fuchs
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17:25 PM
Shepard
so what do you propose?
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17:26 PM
Shepard
come on i want a solution now :)
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17:26 PM
fuchs
in this case, even using the transliteration won't work for sorting, because it's no ASCII char ;)
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17:27 PM
fuchs
i don't listen to Čajkovskij, so remove the artist
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17:27 PM
fuchs
good enough? ;)
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fuchs
the wiki pages are all about transliterations and translations, i think noone ever thought about transcriptions - but in MB transcriptions are often used as transliteration
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17:29 PM
Shepard`
§$%&
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17:30 PM
ruaok waves time of day
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Shepard`
time o'day
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17:30 PM
g0llum
hi ruaok
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17:30 PM
ruaok
tis a good day today!
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17:31 PM
fuchs
i like the time of day abbreviation :)
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17:31 PM
ruaok
today we signed up our second customer.
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17:31 PM
g0llum
cheers
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17:31 PM
g0llum pops a beer
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17:31 PM
fuchs pops a milk
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17:31 PM
ruaok
and thus, I may get a small paycheck right about the 4 year anniversary of getting laid off from my last job.
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17:32 PM
Shepard`
and who is it?
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17:32 PM
ruaok
plus, I hope to be spending more time hacking python/perl as opposed to legal english...
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17:32 PM
ruaok
I'm waiting to hear back if I can announce it.
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17:33 PM
ruaok
if so, I'll spill the beans.
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17:34 PM
ruaok
ah rats. looks like the announcement will have to wait. sigh.
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17:34 PM
ruaok hates being secret
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17:35 PM
g0llum
yeah, i can imagine. that's the one thing you'd like to share with us - and that's what you can't tell :)
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17:40 PM
ruaok
ding.
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17:40 PM
ruaok
and then later when I can share, the excitement will habe moved on to other things.
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17:42 PM
g0llum thinks nabble will be another exiting thing to explore
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17:43 PM
zout_dinner_time
zout_dinner_time is now known as zout_offtothepub
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Shepard`
Shepard` is now known as Shepard
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17:50 PM
Shepard
aww zout is off to the pub without me :(
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17:52 PM
Shepard
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17:53 PM
nikki_
hello
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17:53 PM
ruaok
hi nikki_ !
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17:53 PM
nikki_
moin ruaok
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17:54 PM
nikki_
my mum isn't very impressed 'cause she offered to dye my hair for me 'cause I always make a mess
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17:54 PM
nikki_
she didn't realise that black dye is almost impossible to not make a mess with >:)
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17:55 PM
ruaok
how is it different from other dyes?
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17:55 PM
ruaok
(it is chemically, but not different in the application process)
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17:56 PM
ruaok
funny for me its always orange and purple that make the greatest mess.
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17:56 PM
ruaok
but statistically speaking, that's not surprising.
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17:56 PM
PRAEst76
I never made a mess with black dye. I guess it's a skill :)
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17:58 PM
nikki_
PRAEst76: do you have waist length hair?
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17:58 PM
Shepard
or it's because you never dyed your hair
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17:58 PM
nikki_
no
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17:58 PM
g0llum
ok. seems pretty easy to do...
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17:58 PM
g0llum
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17:58 PM
nikki_
my mum is always doing hers, and I'm always doing mine.
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17:59 PM
nikki_
but as it gets longer, it gets harder to do without getting it everywhere
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17:59 PM
Shepard
i meant PRAEst76
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17:59 PM
nikki_ has been running around with a bin bag tied 'round her neck like a superhero :P
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18:00 PM
PRAEst76
No, I used to. Years ago. When I was young.
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18:00 PM
PRAEst76
And it was about half-way down my back at the time.
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18:00 PM
Shepard
g0llum: wow o_O
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18:01 PM
PRAEst76
Got enough other hair at waste length...
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g0llum
my uplink is quite slow, sorry :)
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luks_
luks_ is now known as luks
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_mo
hey Russss
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19:56 PM
Russss
hi
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[newbie]
[newbie] is now known as IAmNotANewbie
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IAmNotANewbie
IAmNotANewbie is now known as HairMetalsEvilTw
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20:01 PM
HairMetalAddict
åäö Bleh.
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20:01 PM
_mo
hair, yo udon't fool me :p
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20:02 PM
HairMetalAddict
Testing different IRC progs.
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20:02 PM
_mo
:)
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20:02 PM
_mo
find anyones that don't suck?
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20:02 PM
HairMetalAddict
Did those show as actual characters (before Bleh) or a bunch of crap?
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20:02 PM
Russss
they look like UTF-8 to me
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20:02 PM
_mo
it was åäö
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20:02 PM
Russss
but I'm not using a UTF-8 client
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20:02 PM
_mo
(to me)
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20:03 PM
_mo
im' not eiter, but I can see them since they're latin-1 or whatever it is I'm using
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20:03 PM
Russss
_mo: that doesn't help, because he'll just see the right characters again :P
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20:03 PM
_mo
well thats what I saw! :p
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20:03 PM
HairMetalAddict
'kay. My gf was in another chat using my prog and they were complaining about the non-English characters showing funky.
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20:03 PM
_mo
what d oyou mean?
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20:04 PM
_mo
Russss, I typed them not copied them
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20:04 PM
HairMetalAddict
Was a Swedish chatroom too.
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20:04 PM
Russss
won't make any difference
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20:04 PM
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20:04 PM
_mo
dude, thats dumb, thjey wher obviusly using crap ircprogs
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20:04 PM
HairMetalAddict
Probably mirc users
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20:04 PM
_mo
I fail to understand Russss
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20:04 PM
Russss
if I type a � followed by a �, it'll end up as some funky swedish character.
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20:04 PM
_mo
nope
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20:05 PM
Russss
on a UTF-8 compliant client
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20:05 PM
_mo
it shows up as à and the yen symbole
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20:05 PM
Russss
that's how UTF-8 works
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20:05 PM
_mo
but its not utf. because I ca nsee it
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20:05 PM
_mo
afaik its isofuck or latin1
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20:05 PM
HairMetalAddict
I'm on SUSE, where everything gets set up as UTF-8 by default
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20:06 PM
Russss
eh, it's not worth arguing about. I spend too much of my life fucking about with UTF-8
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20:07 PM
Russss returns to his M-trees
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20:07 PM
HairMetalAddict
Mmm, had lots of fun copying a UTF-8 MySQL dump onto a different latin-1 setup once. Never do that again... ;-)
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Russss
HairMetalAddict: the trick is never to touch anything other than UTF-8
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20:08 PM
HairMetalAddict
Well, the latin-1 setup was on my webhost, not under my control.
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20:08 PM
Russss
we had some fun importing some US geodata into our postgres db
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20:08 PM
Russss
it was complaining about characters with IDs like 5 billion
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20:08 PM
HairMetalAddict
Was easy enough to fix. Just opened the mysqldump file in an editor and "Save As..." in KDE gives the option to save it as latin-1
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20:10 PM
Russss
not so easy when your dump is 20GB
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20:10 PM
HairMetalAddict
Very true. I believe there's a command-line prog that'll do it, just was too lazy to look for it. :-P
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20:10 PM
Russss
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20:10 PM
Russss
iconv
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HairMetalAddict
2MB png files are scary.
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HairMetalAddict runs and hides behind the couch from it.
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20:12 PM
Bonehead
åäö
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20:13 PM
HairMetalAddict
åäö!
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20:13 PM
HairMetalAddict
hehe
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Russss
anyhow, every point on that map is a location known to our database
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20:14 PM
Russss
courtesy of the omniscient US government.
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20:14 PM
HairMetalAddict
Damn the feds!
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20:15 PM
Russss
I have yet to determine what exactly they want with madagascar
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20:15 PM
Russss
and the odd square patch in the middle of India.
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nikki_ sneezes everywhere
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20:16 PM
nikki_
I think I need to get a taxi now... almost my bedtime :o
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20:16 PM
nikki_
bye bye!
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20:17 PM
nikki_
bis später.
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nikki_ closes the window anyway
