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      • SenRepus
        hey hey wait a second...

        • 2005-10-07 28032, 2005

      • SenRepus
        that would be a good thing to go along with mo's release type restructure...

        • 2005-10-07 28002, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        haven't seen that plan.. is it wiki'd

        • 2005-10-07 28003, 2005

      • SenRepus
        combine it all, release date, country, label, cat. number, upc, format, and type

        • 2005-10-07 28026, 2005

      • SenRepus
        yea, i can never remember the exact wording, so i always go to mo's page and click the link there

        • 2005-10-07 28046, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        Oh gosh.. I wouldn't know what to do with myself... Thats like.. Things that really should be in a Database Catalog of Music

        • 2005-10-07 28049, 2005

      • SenRepus
        but now its in my browser cache so: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/ReleaseTypeRestructur…

        • 2005-10-07 28023, 2005

      • SenRepus
        i love discogs because it has all that good stuff included but i hate everything else about discogs

        • 2005-10-07 28059, 2005

      • SenRepus
        maybe even connect the disc IDs to all that stuff

        • 2005-10-07 28000, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        Funny you mention that.. I've been a member of discogs far longer than MB and have added nothing compared to what Ive done here

        • 2005-10-07 28022, 2005

      • SenRepus
        i have 4 releases contributed!

        • 2005-10-07 28026, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        .. just looking where did I say - These is from..

        • 2005-10-07 28037, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        wooohooo... have me beat

        • 2005-10-07 28046, 2005

      • SenRepus
        i actually like a lot about discogs but not enough to make me use it

        • 2005-10-07 28026, 2005

      • SenRepus
        i love the collection feature, and, honestly, prefer having all the different formats and such seperated... even if you end up with two of the exact same album

        • 2005-10-07 28056, 2005

      • SenRepus
        just different labels or something...

        • 2005-10-07 28031, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        just looked mo proposed that back in August.. havent read through it yet. But if it sits too long it will get buried like all else

        • 2005-10-07 28011, 2005

      • SenRepus
        -_- we're working on getting it out there

        • 2005-10-07 28023, 2005

      • SenRepus
        he just made a list post about 3 days ago

        • 2005-10-07 28016, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        which list? users nor devel has it

        • 2005-10-07 28035, 2005

      • SenRepus
        let me check...

        • 2005-10-07 28056, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        was it on experts

        • 2005-10-07 28057, 2005

      • SenRepus
        style

        • 2005-10-07 28012, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        oh one that i rarely check...

        • 2005-10-07 28019, 2005

      • SenRepus
        hasn't gotten much attention, but i think it's a great idea

        • 2005-10-07 28036, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        I hear anything that changes the db structure is -not- an easy task

        • 2005-10-07 28011, 2005

      • joshk
        anyone want to fast-track http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=3499623 ?

        • 2005-10-07 28025, 2005

      • SenRepus
        you mean automod it?

        • 2005-10-07 28026, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        Not like you would think and as simple as adding a field like in Excel... (so i understand)

        • 2005-10-07 28031, 2005

      • SenRepus
        or vote on it?

        • 2005-10-07 28042, 2005

      • joshk
        either

        • 2005-10-07 28048, 2005

      • joshk
        faster than waiting for random people to do it :p

        • 2005-10-07 28051, 2005

      • joshk
        http://musicbrainz.org/showalbum.html?albumid=126…

        • 2005-10-07 28059, 2005

      • joshk
        i have a ton of mods.. this entry was in really bad shape

        • 2005-10-07 28011, 2005

      • joshk
        surprising, since switched-on bach is so famous

        • 2005-10-07 28040, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        yes of course a View of Album edits dont show us that very information ;(

        • 2005-10-07 28040, 2005

      • joshk
        i was expecting the wikipedia effect of 'entries converge to correctness as a function of popularity'

        • 2005-10-07 28007, 2005

      • SenRepus
        nope...

        • 2005-10-07 28013, 2005

      • SenRepus
        ive noticed the more popular the worse it is

        • 2005-10-07 28019, 2005

      • SenRepus
        go check The Faint out

        • 2005-10-07 28022, 2005

      • SenRepus
        not popular

        • 2005-10-07 28034, 2005

      • ellmist has quit

        • 2005-10-07 28040, 2005

      • SenRepus
        but damn complete and damn correct. thanks to good ol' me

        • 2005-10-07 28045, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        josh, so if you want track edit votes list em

        • 2005-10-07 28029, 2005

      • SenRepus
        teleGUISE, inline mods turned on?

        • 2005-10-07 28002, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        NO.. I hated that before.. I know its been changed .. Should I go back?

        • 2005-10-07 28017, 2005

      • SenRepus
        i like it, why did you hate it?

        • 2005-10-07 28018, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        Sen, ummmm.. Danse Macabre (bonus disc) Has no release information

        • 2005-10-07 28027, 2005

      • SenRepus
        thats because i cant figure it out yet!

        • 2005-10-07 28030, 2005

      • SenRepus
        >.<

        • 2005-10-07 28030, 2005

      • joshk
        http://xrl.us/hwkz

        • 2005-10-07 28046, 2005

      • SenRepus
        joshk, sorry, but http://musicbrainz.org/showalbum.html?albumid=485… should be VA

        • 2005-10-07 28049, 2005

      • joshk
        SenRepus: inline mods?

        • 2005-10-07 28008, 2005

      • SenRepus
        joshk, automods only

        • 2005-10-07 28011, 2005

      • joshk
        SenRepus: i had that impression too

        • 2005-10-07 28018, 2005

      • joshk
        i guess the rest *is* back

        • 2005-10-07 28019, 2005

      • joshk
        er

        • 2005-10-07 28020, 2005

      • joshk
        bach

        • 2005-10-07 28030, 2005

      • joshk
        but then the artist should be changed from wendy carlos!@

        • 2005-10-07 28031, 2005

      • SenRepus
        used to be for everyone but new people started mistaking what it ment and it had to be removed

        • 2005-10-07 28041, 2005

      • joshk
        for the rest of them

        • 2005-10-07 28046, 2005

      • SenRepus
        it would say "Vote on this random moderation!" and they would think "no, i dont want to" and press no

        • 2005-10-07 28048, 2005

      • SenRepus
        thus voting no

        • 2005-10-07 28054, 2005

      • joshk
        but clearly, i think it's a reinterpretation

        • 2005-10-07 28056, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        Because the random ones where pointless (most of the time) and the related ones became irritating when I wanted to check on it but not vote on it. If you abstain then it never comes back and a pain to look for

        • 2005-10-07 28014, 2005

      • SenRepus
        its about the same...

        • 2005-10-07 28015, 2005

      • joshk
        SenRepus: i really think it's a grey area..

        • 2005-10-07 28047, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        its back for nonautomods ?

        • 2005-10-07 28052, 2005

      • SenRepus
        teleGUISE: now it shows your subscibed artists first, (well, the artist you are viewing first) then related artist, then "random" which is newest mods

        • 2005-10-07 28058, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        just defaulted off?

        • 2005-10-07 28012, 2005

      • SenRepus
        not AFAIK, they cant use it at all

        • 2005-10-07 28034, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        oh.. ok otherwise I would have thought the random no votes would be back along with it

        • 2005-10-07 28013, 2005

      • joshk
        SenRepus: want to comment any further?

        • 2005-10-07 28030, 2005

      • SenRepus
        joshk: i know, its annoying, but thats how we hafta do things at the moment

        • 2005-10-07 28050, 2005

      • joshk
        SenRepus: well, currently, wendy carlos is the artist for all the switched-on recordings

        • 2005-10-07 28055, 2005

      • Edgemen joined the channel

        • 2005-10-07 28059, 2005

      • joshk
        when ostensibly, none of the works are 'hers'..

        • 2005-10-07 28013, 2005

      • SenRepus
        well... i dont know...

        • 2005-10-07 28056, 2005

      • SenRepus
        teleGUISE: i'm still working on getting ahold of that dang bonus disc...

        • 2005-10-07 28006, 2005

      • SenRepus
        it's really hard to find

        • 2005-10-07 28037, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        well you added it...

        • 2005-10-07 28050, 2005

      • SenRepus
        yes well...

        • 2005-10-07 28053, 2005

      • SenRepus
        discogs has a release date but i think its wrong

        • 2005-10-07 28054, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        well found 2003.. which was probably obvious and a start

        • 2005-10-07 28022, 2005

      • SenRepus
        discogs says "Released: 04 Nov 2001"

        • 2005-10-07 28036, 2005

      • SenRepus
        i think its wrong, thats the date for the original album...

        • 2005-10-07 28055, 2005

      • SenRepus
        which is the american release date

        • 2005-10-07 28013, 2005

      • SenRepus
        the 2 CD one was released on a german label though

        • 2005-10-07 28014, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        and this was packed with the UK correct

        • 2005-10-07 28010, 2005

      • SenRepus
        well, not america is all i knew for where it was actually released in

        • 2005-10-07 28038, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        whats the label you know 4 sure?

        • 2005-10-07 28048, 2005

      • SenRepus
        discogs says its City Slang

        • 2005-10-07 28058, 2005

      • SenRepus
        i cant find a damn thing on their site though

        • 2005-10-07 28010, 2005

      • SenRepus
        http://www.cityslang.com/

        • 2005-10-07 28011, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        well that would be germany

        • 2005-10-07 28016, 2005

      • SenRepus
        but its possible a german label shipped it to other countries... right?

        • 2005-10-07 28045, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        you mean like release it in those countries

        • 2005-10-07 28055, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        those = other

        • 2005-10-07 28006, 2005

      • SenRepus
        i have an annotation on the main entry for danse Macabre...

        • 2005-10-07 28008, 2005

      • SenRepus
        according to http://www.cityslang.com/home.html Danse Macabre was released (in addition to the date we already have, I beleive) 2002-11-04, but this seems to be only for the 2 CD and LP versions... when I get my hands on them, i will add the dates appropriatly.

        • 2005-10-07 28024, 2005

      • SenRepus
        however...

        • 2005-10-07 28049, 2005

      • SenRepus
        i just bought a second version of the album, the import of the one disc with the same track listing

        • 2005-10-07 28009, 2005

      • SenRepus
        it has copywrite 2002...

        • 2005-10-07 28036, 2005

      • SenRepus
        also, yes, thats what i ment

        • 2005-10-07 28039, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        well the whole copyright date doesn't always say much for sure.. What country was that from

        • 2005-10-07 28051, 2005

      • SenRepus
        so this leads me to beleive that it might be for either the 1 disc and LPs or all 3 versions

        • 2005-10-07 28010, 2005

      • SenRepus
        sorry, i ment to say its from city slang

        • 2005-10-07 28012, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        well you know more but was the first german release in 2002?

        • 2005-10-07 28058, 2005

      • SenRepus
        AFAIK, yes, it was released in america in 2001 and then on city slang in 2002 (first time for germany or anywhere else besides US)

        • 2005-10-07 28051, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        well that narrows it down then to 2002 or 2003, and being copyright in 2002 could still mean 2003 because i've seen several discs I own be copyright in 2002 (late) and released in 2003 (early)

        • 2005-10-07 28014, 2005

      • SenRepus
        yea...

        • 2005-10-07 28022, 2005

      • Edgeman has quit

        • 2005-10-07 28026, 2005

      • SenRepus
        Danse Macabre, CD/LP, 2002

        • 2005-10-07 28045, 2005

      • SenRepus
        but i cannot find a single mention about the 2 disc versoin, and i donno where i got 2002-11-04 from aynmore

        • 2005-10-07 28009, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        which is a Thursday

        • 2005-10-07 28052, 2005

      • SenRepus
        and? i dont know what days albums tend to get released on

        • 2005-10-07 28044, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        well of course nothing is cast in stone and indie labels can alter the norm.. Which is UK (monday) US (tuesday)

        • 2005-10-07 28057, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        Europe... Germany/Australia seem to follow that but cant say for sure because I believe Wednesday was seen

        • 2005-10-07 28013, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        i know you want to be correct and complete but I think you can probably be safe with 2002 or 2003 whichever you feel stronger about ..

        • 2005-10-07 28006, 2005

      • Edgeman joined the channel

        • 2005-10-07 28014, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        man it is quiet.. I hear web crickets

        • 2005-10-07 28033, 2005

      • SenRepus
        man...

        • 2005-10-07 28037, 2005

      • Edgemen has quit

        • 2005-10-07 28051, 2005

      • SenRepus
        sometimes ill go to bed and wake up and nothing but in/out messages will have happened

        • 2005-10-07 28009, 2005

      • SenRepus
        once i remember coming back 18 hours later and nothing but one guy saying hi and leaving

        • 2005-10-07 28050, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        thats pretty sad... I don't know if its because school is in but seems verrrry slow lately

        • 2005-10-07 28052, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        Voting has gone down tremendously.. open expired edits going into the tens of pages

        • 2005-10-07 28013, 2005

      • SenRepus
        i know...

        • 2005-10-07 28019, 2005

      • SenRepus
        i hate how we get no voters

        • 2005-10-07 28004, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        i try to go through some but it takes so much darn time to check one add out.. thats why I just posted - http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrain…

        • 2005-10-07 28019, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        it doesnt solve the problem but might make others inclined to check it out or be able to verify it a little easier, IMHO anyway

        • 2005-10-07 28028, 2005

      • luks_ joined the channel

        • 2005-10-07 28040, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        its the LUKZINATOR ;)

        • 2005-10-07 28050, 2005

      • SenRepus
        teleGUISE: wanna help me find some info on this one? http://musicbrainz.org/album/9bbea1dc-f461-4c4d-a…

        • 2005-10-07 28054, 2005

      • SenRepus
        ~_^

        • 2005-10-07 28059, 2005

      • SenRepus
        that ones even harder than the first one

        • 2005-10-07 28022, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        should I change my disc id remove edits to Luksinator?

        • 2005-10-07 28023, 2005

      • SenRepus
        also added by me, but, the thing is... thats like my, uh, black sheep

        • 2005-10-07 28052, 2005

      • SenRepus
        i did something kinda bad in adding that one...

        • 2005-10-07 28007, 2005

      • luks has quit

        • 2005-10-07 28008, 2005

      • luks_
        luks_ is now known as luks

        • 2005-10-07 28014, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        gee could you give me another artist ;)... why is that bad add?

        • 2005-10-07 28038, 2005

      • SenRepus
        aside from mispelling acappella wrong

        • 2005-10-07 28050, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        ok luksinator, luks_inator ;) any of the above

        • 2005-10-07 28007, 2005

      • SenRepus
        i only have audio to prove it's existance...

        • 2005-10-07 28013, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        oh dont get me started on a-c-a-p-p-e-l-l-a..

        • 2005-10-07 28049, 2005

      • SenRepus
        is it supposed to be a cappella or acappella?

        • 2005-10-07 28005, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        according to the dictionary it is 'a cappella'

        • 2005-10-07 28033, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        but why then every music listing in the world doesnt use that I have no idea

        • 2005-10-07 28058, 2005

      • SenRepus
        and it should be in lower case, no?