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      • SenRepus
        thats not a person is it

        • 2005-04-11 10156, 2005

      • DJKC
        I'd keep it, it's cute

        • 2005-04-11 10102, 2005

      • SenRepus
        thats some letters, right? in some language?

        • 2005-04-11 10117, 2005

      • DJKC
        although that's probably because I'm imagining it being said by Momoi

        • 2005-04-11 10155, 2005

      • cikkolata
        can she say anything in an uncute manner?

        • 2005-04-11 10102, 2005

      • soccos
        is there a Person 'thanks' Thing relationship type?

        • 2005-04-11 10111, 2005

      • DJKC
        cikkolata: yes

        • 2005-04-11 10116, 2005

      • cikkolata
        oh?

        • 2005-04-11 10122, 2005

      • DJKC
        cikkolata: "I have a cold today" with a scratchy voice

        • 2005-04-11 10104, 2005

      • DJKC
        it's hard to be cute when talking with a messed up voice inbetween trying to cough up a lung

        • 2005-04-11 10131, 2005

      • SenRepus
        soccos, no

        • 2005-04-11 10145, 2005

      • SenRepus
        that't just be a waste of space

        • 2005-04-11 10158, 2005

      • soccos
        SenRepus: no it wouldn't

        • 2005-04-11 10108, 2005

      • SenRepus
        why?

        • 2005-04-11 10115, 2005

      • soccos
        it shows friends and influences

        • 2005-04-11 10129, 2005

      • soccos
        which is interesting background to an artist

        • 2005-04-11 10142, 2005

      • SenRepus
        im not convinced it would be worth having

        • 2005-04-11 10109, 2005

      • yalaforge
        I think it would be useful

        • 2005-04-11 10119, 2005

      • SenRepus shrugs

        • 2005-04-11 10150, 2005

      • SenRepus
        well i guess i can make another 40 mods and another 30 for the artists id hafta create... for the first album i ARed

        • 2005-04-11 10109, 2005

      • yalaforge
        for building the music encyclopedia, you can't have enough information :-)

        • 2005-04-11 10133, 2005

      • soccos
        right, and it's often a shout out to the little people

        • 2005-04-11 10149, 2005

      • soccos
        and it allows queries like 'select artists who thank god'

        • 2005-04-11 10158, 2005

      • yalaforge
        damn. I know why I didn't remove the duplicate artists restriction

        • 2005-04-11 10111, 2005

      • lor3
        where does the AR come from? Just people manually adding links?

        • 2005-04-11 10118, 2005

      • yalaforge
        because of things like this: http://test.musicbrainz.org/album/1771be8b-f27d-4…

        • 2005-04-11 10126, 2005

      • yalaforge
        mega-bug

        • 2005-04-11 10152, 2005

      • yalaforge
        lor3: yes

        • 2005-04-11 10114, 2005

      • yalaforge
        has this already been reported?

        • 2005-04-11 10117, 2005

      • lor3
        why not get the data from Audioscrobbler? :-)

        • 2005-04-11 10121, 2005

      • cikkolata
        yalaforge: huh?

        • 2005-04-11 10139, 2005

      • yalaforge
        adding VA albums adds new artists. always

        • 2005-04-11 10102, 2005

      • cikkolata
        what does AS have other than lots of linked misspellings/aliases/etc and related artists?

        • 2005-04-11 10109, 2005

      • cikkolata
        ahh

        • 2005-04-11 10122, 2005

      • DJKC
        get what data from AS?

        • 2005-04-11 10141, 2005

      • DJKC
        most of what I've added is birth dates and join/leave dates + group formation dates

        • 2005-04-11 10150, 2005

      • DJKC
        plus group memberships

        • 2005-04-11 10151, 2005

      • cikkolata
        mine are mostly members and URLs

        • 2005-04-11 10104, 2005

      • DJKC
        I see lot of people adding composers and conducters

        • 2005-04-11 10106, 2005

      • lor3
        the AR data

        • 2005-04-11 10108, 2005

      • DJKC
        can't get any of that from AS

        • 2005-04-11 10117, 2005

      • yalaforge
        birth dates and artist types are not part of AR

        • 2005-04-11 10136, 2005

      • DJKC
        alright, but group memberships are

        • 2005-04-11 10143, 2005

      • yalaforge
        yup

        • 2005-04-11 10146, 2005

      • DJKC
        and can't think how you'd get that out of AS at all

        • 2005-04-11 10151, 2005

      • DJKC
        or conductors and composers

        • 2005-04-11 10106, 2005

      • DJKC
        it's funny to see people adding the composers for pop music

        • 2005-04-11 10115, 2005

      • lor3
        AR != album relationships then

        • 2005-04-11 10122, 2005

      • DJKC
        no

        • 2005-04-11 10125, 2005

      • DJKC
        Advanced Relationships

        • 2005-04-11 10137, 2005

      • DJKC
        allows adding all sorts of info to albums/artists/tracks

        • 2005-04-11 10145, 2005

      • lor3
        wheres an example ?

        • 2005-04-11 10151, 2005

      • DJKC
        http://www.musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=255…

        • 2005-04-11 10107, 2005

      • DJKC
        there's one where someone is adding the other musician that composed the track for her

        • 2005-04-11 10134, 2005

      • DJKC
        http://www.musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artist… there's an artsts where I added the groups she is in/has been in

        • 2005-04-11 10128, 2005

      • lor3
        ah i c...

        • 2005-04-11 10127, 2005

      • SenRepus
        so, what do we do if we need a new relationship type?

        • 2005-04-11 10103, 2005

      • yalaforge
        ask someone like me, who is a link moderator (just noticed that) :-)

        • 2005-04-11 10123, 2005

      • yalaforge
        I'll tell you then that I won't add link types

        • 2005-04-11 10136, 2005

      • SenRepus
        lol

        • 2005-04-11 10143, 2005

      • SenRepus
        so dont ask you specifically, just someone like you?

        • 2005-04-11 10158, 2005

      • yalaforge
        yup. donredman perhaps, or tma

        • 2005-04-11 10112, 2005

      • SenRepus
        so ask a peice of crap? ;)

        • 2005-04-11 10132, 2005

      • yalaforge
        ?

        • 2005-04-11 10141, 2005

      • SenRepus
        nothing, i was teasing. being a jackass

        • 2005-04-11 10124, 2005

      • SenRepus
        sorry

        • 2005-04-11 10137, 2005

      • yalaforge
        np, I didn't understand it anyway :-)

        • 2005-04-11 10141, 2005

      • lor3
        xxx likes to {eat } / {drink} with yyy

        • 2005-04-11 10143, 2005

      • cikkolata
        me neither...

        • 2005-04-11 10159, 2005

      • yalaforge
        SenRepus: you've still got time to run then

        • 2005-04-11 10106, 2005

      • SenRepus
        lol

        • 2005-04-11 10123, 2005

      • SenRepus
        he said "ask someone like me" i said "so ask a peice of crap" thus yalaforge = peice of crap

        • 2005-04-11 10136, 2005

      • lor3
        xxx had sexual relations yyy's {wife}/{husband}

        • 2005-04-11 10145, 2005

      • cikkolata
        I'm not finding the logical connection though.

        • 2005-04-11 10150, 2005

      • cikkolata
        so I'll forget about it

        • 2005-04-11 10156, 2005

      • yalaforge
        me too

        • 2005-04-11 10107, 2005

      • SenRepus
        wow guys

        • 2005-04-11 10115, 2005

      • soccos has quit

        • 2005-04-11 10151, 2005

      • yalaforge
        ok, fun is over: the VA bug has nasty side effects. try editing http://www.musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artist…

        • 2005-04-11 10101, 2005

      • yalaforge
        it's not possible without adding a comment

        • 2005-04-11 10124, 2005

      • warp plays with AR

        • 2005-04-11 10132, 2005

      • warp
        but i'm not entirely certain i'm doing it right :)

        • 2005-04-11 10156, 2005

      • warp
        so, is this ok? http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=2552618

        • 2005-04-11 10103, 2005

      • SenRepus
        im not sure

        • 2005-04-11 10114, 2005

      • SenRepus
        i dont know if mixed and remixed are the same, there

        • 2005-04-11 10140, 2005

      • warp
        meh. probably not.

        • 2005-04-11 10101, 2005

      • sturles
        I _was_ stupid, cvs works now (outdated CVS/Root files), but the version I get from CVS is 2.0.2. (Defined in mb_client.spec.) How do I get the latest version? Is the module called something other than mb_client?

        • 2005-04-11 10130, 2005

      • yalaforge
        mb_client.spec is outdated. cvs co mb_client gets you the latest sources

        • 2005-04-11 10132, 2005

      • sturles
        I removed mb_client.spec and did cvs update again. But mb_client.spec has the same number.

        • 2005-04-11 10113, 2005

      • yalaforge
        it won't update itself. someone has to check a newer version into cvs :-)

        • 2005-04-11 10114, 2005

      • Daedalus has quit

        • 2005-04-11 10122, 2005

      • sturles
        ChangeLog refers to 2.1, so it looks like I have updated version of other files.

        • 2005-04-11 10148, 2005

      • yalaforge
        ignore mb_client.spec

        • 2005-04-11 10157, 2005

      • sturles
        So the version in CVS is outdated? OK.

        • 2005-04-11 10119, 2005

      • yalaforge
        except for that file, you have the latest sources

        • 2005-04-11 10156, 2005

      • sturles
        mb_client will build without it?

        • 2005-04-11 10101, 2005

      • yalaforge
        yes

        • 2005-04-11 10126, 2005

      • yalaforge
        to be honest, I don't know what exactly it does

        • 2005-04-11 10128, 2005

      • sturles
        Thanks!

        • 2005-04-11 10146, 2005

      • yalaforge
        autoconf and friends + make don't rely on it

        • 2005-04-11 10138, 2005

      • dupuy
        DJKC, wrt mo's W mods, the won't get failed prereq until the voting closes

        • 2005-04-11 10153, 2005

      • mo
        maybe I should just delete them...

        • 2005-04-11 10123, 2005

      • cikkolata
        that's what I thought happened.

        • 2005-04-11 10130, 2005

      • cikkolata
        (which is why I voted yes anyway)

        • 2005-04-11 10102, 2005

      • ramoz has quit

        • 2005-04-11 10110, 2005

      • Knio-sleep
        Knio-sleep is now known as Knio

        • 2005-04-11 10134, 2005

      • bramp joined the channel

        • 2005-04-11 10135, 2005

      • ramoz joined the channel

        • 2005-04-11 10144, 2005

      • AvengerPenguin has left the channel

        • 2005-04-11 10145, 2005

      • bramp has quit

        • 2005-04-11 10134, 2005

      • bramp joined the channel

        • 2005-04-11 10149, 2005

      • sturles
        Doesn't MusicBrainz include recording year?

        • 2005-04-11 10136, 2005

      • sturles
        Would be very useful to cehck for tracks > 50 years, where the Cpyright has expired in most of the world.

        • 2005-04-11 10150, 2005

      • yalaforge
        MusicBrainz? what exactly do you mean?

        • 2005-04-11 10102, 2005

      • yalaforge
        server, client, tagger?

        • 2005-04-11 10137, 2005

      • sturles
        All of them.. Trying the tp_tagger now.

        • 2005-04-11 10111, 2005

      • yalaforge
        server supports them, client also (except for the simple bindings)

        • 2005-04-11 10146, 2005

      • yalaforge
        tp_tagger is windows-only. I don't know. but the library it builds on (libtunepimp) supports release dates

        • 2005-04-11 10153, 2005

      • sturles
        OK. So I'll have to filx tp_tagger then?

        • 2005-04-11 10117, 2005

      • sturles
        tp_tagger is from the tunepimp CVS module, and I'm running it on Linux.

        • 2005-04-11 10127, 2005

      • sturles
        Don't have access to any Windows machines.

        • 2005-04-11 10131, 2005

      • yalaforge
        ahh. that one :-)

        • 2005-04-11 10142, 2005

      • yalaforge
        I thought you mean mb_tagger (which is for windows)

        • 2005-04-11 10105, 2005

      • Knio
        Knio is now known as Knio-school

        • 2005-04-11 10156, 2005

      • yalaforge
        don't know if tp_tagger writes release dates to the tags, but I think it does

        • 2005-04-11 10107, 2005

      • yalaforge
        make sure the release date is available on the server

        • 2005-04-11 10119, 2005

      • soccos joined the channel

        • 2005-04-11 10134, 2005

      • yalaforge
        ok, release years (not complete dates) are added

        • 2005-04-11 10138, 2005

      • cikkolata
        heh. hit 400 subscribed artists...

        • 2005-04-11 10148, 2005

      • SenRepus
        O_O

        • 2005-04-11 10154, 2005

      • yalaforge hits mb_server

        • 2005-04-11 10111, 2005

      • cikkolata
        dupuy has more

        • 2005-04-11 10122, 2005

      • cikkolata
        and someone's cutting grass outside

        • 2005-04-11 10154, 2005

      • SenRepus
        <-- 46

        • 2005-04-11 10154, 2005

      • somnolent
        somnolent is now known as somniloquy

        • 2005-04-11 10158, 2005

      • SenRepus
        Today: Showers and thundershowers likely. High 66F. Winds SE at 15 to 25 mph. Chance of rain 60%. Rainfall near a quarter of an inch.

        • 2005-04-11 10104, 2005

      • SenRepus
        i think im going to go hiking

        • 2005-04-11 10107, 2005

      • mo
        sun here :D

        • 2005-04-11 10115, 2005

      • SenRepus
        ew, sun

        • 2005-04-11 10120, 2005

      • mo
        ew you

        • 2005-04-11 10142, 2005

      • SenRepus
        XP

        • 2005-04-11 10149, 2005

      • mo
        people that have problems with the sun sould know about nborway, its bloddy sunless and cold for most of the year

        • 2005-04-11 10103, 2005

      • mo
        when the sun finally shines we *are* happy

        • 2005-04-11 10115, 2005

      • mo
        even if I don't like it *to* hot

        • 2005-04-11 10116, 2005

      • mo
        ;)

        • 2005-04-11 10117, 2005

      • SenRepus
        i dont like cold

        • 2005-04-11 10122, 2005

      • SenRepus
        i like warm rain

        • 2005-04-11 10139, 2005

      • mo
        what is this 'warm' 'rain' you speak of, we don't have this here

        • 2005-04-11 10153, 2005

      • SenRepus
        hehe

        • 2005-04-11 10100, 2005

      • mo
        :)