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      • yllona
        nope. i just learned that tis evening, thew a hissy fit also

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      • yllona
        see: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/HowVotingWorks

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      • nechto13
        oh I'd throw a hissy fit too if I didn't have to figure out how to put a duet for a track between the lead actor and the composer

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      • nechto13
        I can't get away with having two leads right?

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      • yllona
        there is no concept of duet (or any other ensemble singing) on MB. for duets i juat add both as lead vocal on the track, or if i'm feeling ambitious (soprano, tenor, etc)

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      • yllona
        brb, running downstairs to check dogs, it's awful quiet ;)

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      • nechto13
        allright two leads coming up. I'm sure that one of them is not a lead but I can't figure out which vocal they perfom it's probably tenor, but it could be a contra-tenor or maybe even a barritone. well I doubt barritone.

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      • nechto13
        as a matter of fact if anyone wants to help me out with the type of vocal you can listen to it here http://www.russiandvd.com/store/album_asx.asp?sku…

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      • yllona
        nechto13: listening now

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      • yllona
        it's definitely not counter-tenor (that sounds like a female soprano, it's a castrati)

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      • yllona
        i'd make the lead vocal a tenor, or high baritone

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      • yllona
        tenor, would be safest. what's this song about?

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      • nechto13
        that was actually the composer singing

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      • yllona
        heh,

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      • nechto13
        he is male and it's basically three musketeers the musical

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      • yllona
        it sounds like a drinking song, or a variation of a folk song

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      • nechto13
        he sings for the head of musketeers

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      • nechto13
        before d'artanyan comes to join

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      • yllona
        counter tenors are males with very high voices, the roles used to be sung by a eunuch (castrato) until that was made illegal sometime in the late 19th century

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      • yllona
        so i doubt *any* of the musketeers would be sung by a counter-tenor :P

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      • nechto13
        oh i din't realize the site that i'm using has complete songs that can be streamed

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      • nechto13
        yllona: I think you might like to listen to Anna German, she's exceptionally good here is a link to one of her songs http://www.russiandvd.com/store/album_asx.asp?sku…

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      • yllona
        thanks!

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      • nechto13
        if you like it i'll send you a link to an album

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      • yllona
        i like it!

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      • yllona
        a lot, it's like pink martini

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      • nechto13
        http://here is a link to an album http://www.russiandvd.com/store/product.asp?sku=3…

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      • yllona
        have you heard the group "pink martini"

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      • nechto13
        yep, as a matter of fact I've been to one of their concerts

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      • nechto13
        but I think that Anna German has clearer voice and she sang so effortlessly

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      • yllona
        yes she does. have you found anna on amazon?

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      • yllona
        i have an amazon gift certificate i have to use by the end of the year...

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      • nechto13
        no, I've known about her for a while she's very famous in russia and other republics that were a part of soviet union

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      • nechto13
        I actually can't find her on amazon

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      • yllona
        ah, i couldn't find her on amazon either

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      • yllona
        nor the itunes msuic store

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      • nechto13
        I can find her on russian version of amazon, which is called ozone.ru, but I don't know if it belongs to amazon and if your certificate would work there

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      • nechto13
        what kills me is that she's virtually unknown in US and rest of Europe and she was an amazing singer

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      • yllona
        hmmm, what's her record label, i can't read the russianDVD web site

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      • nechto13
        there's a switch to english link at the top of the page and the record label, which released the DVD is called JAM

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      • nechto13
        the problem with most artists that used to make music in soviet times is that the music belonged to the state. Now that there's no more soviet union it's pretty much free for all, because no one has the right to her music. that's why I believe you can find releases of her music by different labels

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      • nechto13
        at this point I'm convinced that anyone can start a label in russia and release her music

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      • yllona
        okay, thanks i'll poke around on the web

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      • nechto13
        I believe the website to which I gave you the link is based in NY and they are pretty legitimate

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      • yllona
        ah thank you. that helps if they are in the US

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      • nechto13
        you get free shipping in continental US :)

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      • nechto13
        http://www.russiandvd.com/store/

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      • yllona
        now we're talking, tahnk you again

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      • yllona
        they're in brooklyn NY actually, i can tell be the phone number

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      • nechto13
        that's good, as a matter of fact most russian based websites sell membership not cds

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      • nechto13
        you join and you can download x number of songs

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      • inhouseuk_
        inhouseuk_ is now known as inhouseuk

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      • nechto13
        or x number of mbs of music

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      • nechto13
        they've been doing it long before itunes and the whole ipod craze

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      • yllona
        yeah, i had heard that. i prefer cds myself

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      • nechto13
        for me it usually depends on the artist, for most of the russian pop singers now I wouldn't want to buy their cd even if they had a couple of songs I like

        • 2005-12-01 33514, 2005

      • nechto13
        I believe that russian pop artists adopted the worst parts of american commercilized music industry

        • 2005-12-01 33510, 2005

      • nechto13
        there are very few serious musicians in the mainstream

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      • yllona
        and that's gotta be really bad.

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      • yllona
        altho there are some very exciting russian jazz musicians

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      • yllona
        but i don't know if they still live in the russian fed countries, but maybe

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      • nechto13
        hmm, can you tell me a couple of names, because I'm not familiar with russian jazz scene right now. I mean I know old good jazz groups from russia, but nothing recent

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      • yllona
        one minute

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      • yllona
        had to check spelling, sorry.

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      • yllona
        this singer is really good, but she's from Prague, actually : http://www.martatopferova.com/bio.shtml

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      • yllona
        here's a list of russians jazz musicians that visited the US this last year: http://www.openworld.gov/press/print.php?id=48&am…

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      • yllona
        Jazz in Russia web site: http://www.jazz.ru/eng/default.htm

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      • yllona
        i've seen this guy with wynton marsalis: http://www.jazz.ru/eng/pages/fine/

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      • yllona
        played with duke ellington: http://www.jazz.ru/eng/pages/gerasimov/

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      • inhouseuk_
        inhouseuk_ is now known as inhouseuk

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      • juhae
        What's the correct capitalization for "mph" (miles per hour)?

        • 2005-12-01 33556, 2005

      • juhae
        If there is one

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      • juhae
        Now there's pretty much every possible variant in http://musicbrainz.org/newsearch.html?search=125+… :)

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      • juhae
        Or is it like with "a.m." where nobody seems to know if it's best to use "AM", "am", "A.M." or "a.m." :P

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      • yllona
        i've always used mph all lower case

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      • PRAEst76
        Yeah, me too.

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      • PRAEst76
        I tend to use lowercase am too

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      • mustaqila
        You forgot "A.m"

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      • juhae
        Okay, I'll keep that in mind and blame you two if somebody comes later telling me it's wrong ;)

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      • juhae
        mustaqila: Haven't ever seen it like that and why would there be just one "."

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      • mustaqila
        Becuase I'm illiterate and stupid

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      • nechto13
        you could put M.P.H and blame amazon

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      • PRAEst76
        juhae: Tell them my dad is bigger than their dads.

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      • mustaqila
        It was a bad joke too, considering I've been awake all morning heh

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      • inhouseuk
        according to the oxford english dictionary it is mph all lower case

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      • yllona
        can't argue with the OED, even in america :P

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      • juhae
        inhouseuk: woo! cheers

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      • nechto13
        i guess its splelled like that in amazon, because they had to change it in the process of importing

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      • PRAEst76
        Put that in the wiki for future reference

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      • PRAEst76
        Though we'd still end up with people doing it other ways because "that's how it is on the album sleeve/artists website"

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      • juhae
        inhouseuk: Does it say anything regarding the "am/pm" chaos?

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      • inhouseuk
        one sec, I'll look

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      • inhouseuk
        a.m. and p.m.

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      • nechto13
        yllona: thanks for the links

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      • yllona
        nectho: you're welcome. so very good, even great musicians on that list

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      • yllona
        ooops, nechto13 rather^^

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      • juhae
        http://musicbrainz.org/newsearch.html?limit=25&am… lots to be edited in that case :)

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      • yllona
        ouch!!! my eyes

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      • yllona
        is there some way to do that in a batch since it appears to be the same track?

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      • yllona
        except for the re-mixes

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      • juhae
        Not that i'm aware of

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      • juhae
        But it's not like I'd know a lot about anything anyway

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      • juhae
        *drumroll

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      • yllona
        that's really sad....

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      • inhouseuk
        nope, each one will need to be done individually

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      • juhae
        graah

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      • yllona
        no batch operations on strings

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      • yllona weeps

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      • inhouseuk
        if I had direct access to the db, I could cobble together a little sql to do it, but......

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      • yllona
        yeah, i hear you

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      • inhouseuk
        potentially it could be dealt with by the autofix (guess case) code

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      • inhouseuk
        g0llum is the person that keeps that maintained

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      • juhae
        That would be super

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      • nechto13
        hmm, for one of the tracks I don't know the first name of the performer, how should I add him?

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      • inhouseuk
        [unknown]

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      • nechto13
        i know the first letter of the first name and last name

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      • inhouseuk
        oh sorry, I thought you meant you didn;t have any information about the artist

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      • Schika
        nechto13, search on discogs?

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      • yllona
        nechto13 give me a clue?

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      • Schika
        n.o. clue?

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      • nechto13
        you won't lik it, i can't search for a russian name on discogs

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      • yllona
        ouch, is it in latin text or cyrillic

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      • nechto13
        and the name is ?. ?????? or any one of these V Chuikin, V. Chujkin, or V. Chuykin

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      • yllona
        i'll work with this one: V. Chuykin

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      • yllona
        nothing there for any of the names across web, blog, and wikipedia. but i only search in english

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      • yllona
        i did find "VALERIE CHUYKIN" as a ski champion though

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      • zout
        hi

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      • nechto13
        nope can't find him

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      • nechto13
        hello

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      • yllona
        nechto13: me either, is it a vocal or does he/she play an instrument?

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      • nechto13
        it's a vocal

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      • nechto13
        but I don't think he is that good

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      • nechto13
        kidding

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      • yllona
        ah, sorry i couldn't find anything

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      • yllona
        did you try google or yahoo w/ cyrillic

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      • nechto13
        that's what I've been doing

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      • yllona
        okay, just a thought

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      • yllona
        did you try technorati? although i don't know if it supports cyrillic