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      • chocomo
        its the dsaem thing I get it

        • 2005-12-06 34005, 2005

      • g0llum
        Shepard: but release artists for "Solist 1 & Solist 2 & Orchestra conducted by Conductor x" is a stupid releaseartist

        • 2005-12-06 34014, 2005

      • chocomo
        yes

        • 2005-12-06 34024, 2005

      • chocomo
        it osudl srtill be under composer. imho

        • 2005-12-06 34035, 2005

      • chocomo
        but stuff liek pavarotty sings opera soudl be under pavarotty

        • 2005-12-06 34045, 2005

      • g0llum
        and now you have another album where solist2 is more important than 1, and shwuppps, another releaseartist

        • 2005-12-06 34000, 2005

      • Shepard
        well people think MB is for pop music only anyways ;)

        • 2005-12-06 34004, 2005

      • g0llum
        chocomo: attention, we're talking about nextgen, not the sg5relief

        • 2005-12-06 34011, 2005

      • chocomo
        AR works fine on classicla imho, it just needs refurbishing to add it

        • 2005-12-06 34017, 2005

      • chocomo
        I realise this

        • 2005-12-06 34018, 2005

      • chocomo
        :)

        • 2005-12-06 34022, 2005

      • luks
        i think it should be under composer, but displayed also under performers

        • 2005-12-06 34033, 2005

      • chocomo
        ding luks

        • 2005-12-06 34041, 2005

      • luks
        in the same ways as DJ-mixes, remixes, ... on discogs

        • 2005-12-06 34041, 2005

      • g0llum
        ok, but now we're making sure that we don't need AR for "basic" browsing of artists/albums

        • 2005-12-06 34045, 2005

      • luks
        -s

        • 2005-12-06 34055, 2005

      • chocomo
        yes

        • 2005-12-06 34013, 2005

      • g0llum
        so adding the n:m "some composer" as well as "pavaratti" solves the issue much much better

        • 2005-12-06 34032, 2005

      • chocomo
        yes on a pavarotty issue

        • 2005-12-06 34036, 2005

      • ksch has quit

        • 2005-12-06 34040, 2005

      • luks
        g0llum: i'm not so sure about it :p

        • 2005-12-06 34046, 2005

      • g0llum
        ruaok: gtg, can you try.. and i'll try again in a couple of hours when i'm home?

        • 2005-12-06 34055, 2005

      • Shepard
        pavaratti? paparazi? ;)

        • 2005-12-06 34001, 2005

      • chocomo
        but on 'aIda' havign it under verdi wit n:m soem orcestra and N:m soem tenor, etc seems more logical

        • 2005-12-06 34005, 2005

      • chocomo
        pavarotti

        • 2005-12-06 34007, 2005

      • g0llum
        luks: i'm not so sure either. but then again, i haven't thought much about it

        • 2005-12-06 34037, 2005

      • ruaok
        g0llum: Im almost done.

        • 2005-12-06 34037, 2005

      • g0llum
        later

        • 2005-12-06 34038, 2005

      • g0llum has quit

        • 2005-12-06 34037, 2005

      • Shepard
        1 point for killing the chat :)

        • 2005-12-06 34058, 2005

      • chocomo is slightly annoyed with fuchs totally not gettign several of my points i nrelease rediesong

        • 2005-12-06 34049, 2005

      • chocomo
        redesign

        • 2005-12-06 34001, 2005

      • chocomo
        god it took me long enough to type that word

        • 2005-12-06 34026, 2005

      • ruaok runs off for some quality male bonding time

        • 2005-12-06 34030, 2005

      • ruaok is away: male bonding

        • 2005-12-06 34035, 2005

      • chocomo
        erh

        • 2005-12-06 34039, 2005

      • Shepard
        o_O

        • 2005-12-06 34017, 2005

      • chocomo refrains from mentioning how hw'd like to 'male bond' with SenRepus

        • 2005-12-06 34019, 2005

      • Shepard
        okeee... i think i.. just go on eating my meal.. and don't think about it

        • 2005-12-06 34030, 2005

      • fuchs
        chocomo: which points? :)

        • 2005-12-06 34040, 2005

      • chocomo tries to make Shepard thinkabout it

        • 2005-12-06 34059, 2005

      • Shepard
        lalalalala i can't hear you

        • 2005-12-06 34005, 2005

      • chocomo
        hehehee

        • 2005-12-06 34034, 2005

      • chocomo
        let me just fix a bit,...

        • 2005-12-06 34044, 2005

      • chocomo
        ok thanks fuchs for reorderign the page

        • 2005-12-06 34048, 2005

      • chocomo
        now

        • 2005-12-06 34053, 2005

      • chocomo
        first comemnrial

        • 2005-12-06 34033, 2005

      • Shepard
        it's funny that i understood the word on the first look but on the second look notice how funny it looks

        • 2005-12-06 34049, 2005

      • Shepard
        err.. some words repeated.. whatever

        • 2005-12-06 34002, 2005

      • chocomo
        yes

        • 2005-12-06 34003, 2005

      • chocomo
        :)

        • 2005-12-06 34021, 2005

      • chocomo
        I want to seperate VA albums such as http://musicbrainz.org/showalbum.html?albumid=402… and http://musicbrainz.org/showalbum.html?albumid=8916 (for example, cant find a better oen right now) in the APR page. and to do that, they (the NOW! type albums) need a defining release tag that tells why they are different than the Compilation album that actually has a theme

        • 2005-12-06 34024, 2005

      • chocomo
        or simmilar

        • 2005-12-06 34025, 2005

      • masi joined the channel

        • 2005-12-06 34040, 2005

      • chocomo
        s/and/from/

        • 2005-12-06 34044, 2005

      • Shepard
        the tribute probably needs to be album, not compilation

        • 2005-12-06 34055, 2005

      • chocomo
        in classicla this amounts to the 'feeling' betwene what I experience as a 'profecional classicla release' and a 'walmasrt cheaop-o plastic release'

        • 2005-12-06 34043, 2005

      • fuchs
        chocomo: ok, nthing against this, but commercial is just a bad term for this, because commercial means "something that is sold"

        • 2005-12-06 34045, 2005

      • Shepard
        ahh

        • 2005-12-06 34037, 2005

      • chocomo
        both are tecnically 'bootleg', none of these where made with artist (composer) intent. but soem are serius labels with orcestras signed to thme and etc. they are not bootleg. but soem are soe mdodgy recordign of soem uncnown or sound orcestra type thing that soudl probably be 'commercial'

        • 2005-12-06 34058, 2005

      • chocomo
        aha! but in my very first draft, I saif' this is possibly a bad name, please help me' and nonoen saif anything

        • 2005-12-06 34020, 2005

      • Jetpack joined the channel

        • 2005-12-06 34035, 2005

      • Shepard
        probably noone understood what you mean :)

        • 2005-12-06 34035, 2005

      • chocomo
        said instead of saif even

        • 2005-12-06 34046, 2005

      • chocomo
        hmmm

        • 2005-12-06 34048, 2005

      • chocomo
        then say so

        • 2005-12-06 34056, 2005

      • chocomo
        and I will try to type slower

        • 2005-12-06 34000, 2005

      • chocomo
        sorry

        • 2005-12-06 34001, 2005

      • Jetpack
        trying to create a mb database in Mysql 5 but get an error with createtables.sql

        • 2005-12-06 34004, 2005

      • Shepard
        i didn't read the whole thing :o

        • 2005-12-06 34022, 2005

      • chocomo
        I'm gettign exitet because its beign used in the documentation and cited in new schema etc

        • 2005-12-06 34028, 2005

      • Shepard
        or didn't think about all of it that is

        • 2005-12-06 34028, 2005

      • fuchs
        chocomo: yep, because i don't really understand the distinction between this "commercial" and "official", therefore it's hard to find a term, but i think i got it now ;)

        • 2005-12-06 34036, 2005

      • nikki` returns from college

        • 2005-12-06 34041, 2005

      • Shepard
        hi nikki

        • 2005-12-06 34044, 2005

      • chocomo
        hi nikki

        • 2005-12-06 34002, 2005

      • chocomo
        I'm glad yo udid fuchs, can you edit the disccusion page to reflect this?

        • 2005-12-06 34021, 2005

      • Shepard
        mo: for the classical albums, it is not bootleg if you see it as a work of the performer and not the composer

        • 2005-12-06 34028, 2005

      • chocomo
        yes

        • 2005-12-06 34028, 2005

      • jbo joined the channel

        • 2005-12-06 34041, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        Jetpack: mb is designed to run on postgres, not mysql, which is why you are getting the error

        • 2005-12-06 34002, 2005

      • chocomo
        but I do feel the need to seperate Naxos, decca, etc type releases from 'soem dodgy walmart thing' in APR

        • 2005-12-06 34010, 2005

      • chocomo
        I thoghu this up mainly with apr in mind

        • 2005-12-06 34021, 2005

      • nikki`
        today I found out that term ends on the 16th

        • 2005-12-06 34024, 2005

      • Jetpack
        ok

        • 2005-12-06 34037, 2005

      • Shepard
        of Dec??

        • 2005-12-06 34041, 2005

      • chocomo
        hmm!

        • 2005-12-06 34043, 2005

      • nikki`
        the bad news is that people doing january exams have to go in on the 19th and 20th too

        • 2005-12-06 34046, 2005

      • nikki`
        yes

        • 2005-12-06 34057, 2005

      • nikki`
        and I'm going january exams

        • 2005-12-06 34014, 2005

      • nikki`
        but all my revision classes are on the 19th, so I don't need to go in on the 20th :D

        • 2005-12-06 34018, 2005

      • Shepard
        hu mine is not even half over i think

        • 2005-12-06 34048, 2005

      • chocomo
        also abotu the dualdisc

        • 2005-12-06 34055, 2005

      • nikki`
        the yucky news is that my core maths exams are first thing monday morning when we go back

        • 2005-12-06 34005, 2005

      • nikki`
        Shepard: so when do you finish for xmas?

        • 2005-12-06 34044, 2005

      • chocomo
        i think I know what you mean. but I don'tthing releasedata can store this. it soudl be a thingy in shepards release thinger

        • 2005-12-06 34034, 2005

      • Shepard
        nikki: if you want to test your german, try to find out: http://www-zhv.rwth-aachen.de/zentral/abt12_termi… ;)

        • 2005-12-06 34051, 2005

      • chocomo
        because it litterally consists of two 'enteties' the two playable sides. if it was dualdisec i nthat it was two cd's or two DVD's I'd think they soudl be in one release entry (but with two discs)

        • 2005-12-06 34012, 2005

      • chocomo
        that is the same here, the only difference is that the two discs are.. eh 'glued together' so to soeak

        • 2005-12-06 34024, 2005

      • nikki`
        23rd?

        • 2005-12-06 34031, 2005

      • Shepard
        yes

        • 2005-12-06 34045, 2005

      • chocomo is havign english exames in.. soon

        • 2005-12-06 34045, 2005

      • nikki`
        mine's only a few days before then

        • 2005-12-06 34052, 2005

      • Shepard
        that's the first free day

        • 2005-12-06 34004, 2005

      • nikki`
        unless you're confusing terms and semesters

        • 2005-12-06 34057, 2005

      • nikki`
        because we have three terms, autumn, xmas holiday, spring, easter holiday, summer, summer holiday

        • 2005-12-06 34057, 2005

      • Shepard
        we don't have terms here.. so term can mean the same

        • 2005-12-06 34007, 2005

      • nikki`
        trimester, I guess :P

        • 2005-12-06 34009, 2005

      • chocomo
        I think this cant be fixed until we agree that two sided cassettes and two sided vinyls saould be seperated soemhow. that they are whatthey are is set by medium release type

        • 2005-12-06 34032, 2005

      • chocomo
        you have two different summer and summerholiday?

        • 2005-12-06 34039, 2005

      • nikki`
        no

        • 2005-12-06 34055, 2005

      • nikki`
        summer term (may-july) and summer holiday (end of july-beginning of september)

        • 2005-12-06 34058, 2005

      • chocomo
        oh whait I get it, nm

        • 2005-12-06 34019, 2005

      • nikki`
        Shepard: plus you're at uni, I've no idea how that works

        • 2005-12-06 34020, 2005

      • chocomo
        hmm instead of dual disc, 'two sided digitl medium' ?

        • 2005-12-06 34054, 2005

      • chocomo
        is this needed?

        • 2005-12-06 34059, 2005

      • chocomo
        I mean, *really*?

        • 2005-12-06 34012, 2005

      • chocomo
        *now*?

        • 2005-12-06 34019, 2005

      • chocomo
        it can if needed be, be worked i nlater

        • 2005-12-06 34049, 2005

      • chocomo
        I just wanan finish up this so its pretty much ready for rob ang g0llum to start workign in it with shepards things

        • 2005-12-06 34011, 2005

      • nikki`
        Shepard: Christi Himmelfahrt = the ascension?

        • 2005-12-06 34016, 2005

      • chocomo
        eeh!

        • 2005-12-06 34024, 2005

      • chocomo
        Kristihimmelfartsdag!

        • 2005-12-06 34034, 2005

      • nikki`
        norwegian name?

        • 2005-12-06 34036, 2005

      • Shepard
        the model we worked out on the summit is not that fine graded as i liked it to be originally and can't be extended to be later but well that's the compromise :)

        • 2005-12-06 34040, 2005

      • chocomo
        thats german? its almost the same in norwegian!

        • 2005-12-06 34044, 2005

      • chocomo smiles

        • 2005-12-06 34047, 2005

      • nikki`
        bah

        • 2005-12-06 34055, 2005

      • nikki`
        why do you get such nice names

        • 2005-12-06 34012, 2005

      • chocomo
        you know what it trasnaltes to?

        • 2005-12-06 34017, 2005

      • chocomo
        translates

        • 2005-12-06 34027, 2005

      • nikki`
        christ sky travel day?

        • 2005-12-06 34038, 2005

      • chocomo
        ja

        • 2005-12-06 34038, 2005

      • nikki` laughs

        • 2005-12-06 34043, 2005

      • chocomo
        jøss nikki er *flink*

        • 2005-12-06 34002, 2005

      • nikki`
        the way I said that makes it sound like he's going for a plane ride

        • 2005-12-06 34019, 2005

      • chocomo
        my mom once funnliy said 'kristi himmelspretten'

        • 2005-12-06 34026, 2005

      • nikki`
        spretten?

        • 2005-12-06 34032, 2005

      • Shepard
        fahrt is ride/drive/journey

        • 2005-12-06 34044, 2005

      • nikki`
        yeah, journey works better

        • 2005-12-06 34046, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        hmmm, this is interesting, http://musicbrainz.org/mod/search/results.html?ar… what is the chance of two users wanting to make the same change within a couple of days?

        • 2005-12-06 34056, 2005

      • chocomo
        sprette, uhm. a sprettert is a slingshot.. sprett is to bounce vasically

        • 2005-12-06 34004, 2005

      • nikki`
        I just associate it with the act of travelling without having a proper translation of it

        • 2005-12-06 34025, 2005

      • chocomo
        dont you wanna know what the 'jøss' bit and the rest means?

        • 2005-12-06 34053, 2005

      • nikki`
        please

        • 2005-12-06 34023, 2005

      • chocomo
        'sheesh nikki is *good*' (but good as in 'good *at* something)

        • 2005-12-06 34031, 2005

      • nikki`
        :D

        • 2005-12-06 34033, 2005

      • chocomo
        ^^

        • 2005-12-06 34001, 2005

      • nikki`
        not my fault I recognised the german word's parts :P

        • 2005-12-06 34004, 2005

      • chocomo
        if I want to say 'nikki is good' (as in nice) I'd say 'nikki er snill'