I told him to take his opinions to the mailing list. see if he can convince everyone that we need to exclusively support the ascii charset alone because his poor system can't cope with anything else.
2005-12-06 34027, 2005
PRAEst76
He just seems to be yet another frustrated individual with a martyr complex.
2005-12-06 34034, 2005
PRAEst76
The net is full of them
2005-12-06 34043, 2005
PRAEst76
They won't leave me alone
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djce has quit
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luks
hehe, he created a new account
2005-12-06 34050, 2005
luks
and voted yes
2005-12-06 34009, 2005
rowaasr13
Yep, seen it too.
2005-12-06 34056, 2005
rowaasr13
Should such things be dealt with by some non-standard way?
2005-12-06 34027, 2005
PRAEst76
Voodoo Doll?
2005-12-06 34054, 2005
PRAEst76
If he was a sensible chap he'd go to the mailing list and discuss his issues in a decent manner.
2005-12-06 34050, 2005
nikki`
I saw that too
2005-12-06 34024, 2005
teleGUISE
will picard tag that guys files?
2005-12-06 34031, 2005
luks
yes
2005-12-06 34059, 2005
teleGUISE
we only have a working win version presently correct?
2005-12-06 34020, 2005
SenScrooge
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teleGUISE
never mind...
2005-12-06 34026, 2005
nikki`
wrong
2005-12-06 34040, 2005
nikki` has been using picard since september 2004 :P
2005-12-06 34053, 2005
PRAEst76
Is that guy even interested in tagging his files with the current data? Seems he just wants his way on principle.
2005-12-06 34055, 2005
nikki`
of course, the unicode bugs weren't fixed until this year...
2005-12-06 34000, 2005
nikki`
yes
2005-12-06 34006, 2005
nikki`
he doesn't seem to care
2005-12-06 34013, 2005
nikki`
he just acts like a spoilt brat
2005-12-06 34047, 2005
PRAEst76
You see *this* is what happens when women don't breast feed their kids...
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SenScrooge
never a pleasent sight when youre looking at your bank account status
2005-12-06 34029, 2005
SenScrooge
Withdrawl: -1,000.00
2005-12-06 34004, 2005
luks
teleGUISE: "The database is aimed at being correct" <- really? :p
2005-12-06 34005, 2005
PRAEst76
Or they do it too long
2005-12-06 34017, 2005
nikki`
PRAEst76: I think you'd have to do something much worse to get something as bad as this
Probably some other issues which manifest themselves like this
2005-12-06 34007, 2005
teleGUISE
now he has renaming file issues... which sounds like an OS problem to me
2005-12-06 34042, 2005
SenScrooge
he'll end up making 3 puppets and voting it through, giving us one hour to stop him
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Schika
Hi!
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nikki`
hi!
2005-12-06 34030, 2005
nikki`
SenScrooge: I think half of mb will be voting no by the time he's done
2005-12-06 34035, 2005
nikki`
and we cover lots of timezones :P
2005-12-06 34016, 2005
PRAEst76
Can't we block people by IP?
2005-12-06 34019, 2005
Schika
is the support channel for python also on FreeNode?
2005-12-06 34049, 2005
Schika
^jep
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SenScrooge
im not subscribing
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teleGUISE
yea.. but ip is pointless... anyone using a proxy isp will be able to continuously change their ip
2005-12-06 34011, 2005
teleGUISE
or anyone w/o a dedicated ip for that matter
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teleGUISE
dsl just needs a log off, log on and it will most likely be different
2005-12-06 34058, 2005
teleGUISE
same with cable etc..etc..
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PRAEst76
That assumes he'd be aware of how to do that.
2005-12-06 34012, 2005
PRAEst76
I daresay the majority of internet users don't know what an IP is.
2005-12-06 34047, 2005
PRAEst76
It might keep him off long enough for him to lose interest and move onto some other crusade.
2005-12-06 34048, 2005
nikki`
hi ruaok
2005-12-06 34020, 2005
nikki`
ruaok: you may want to run away screaming right now
2005-12-06 34043, 2005
nikki`
before you get drowned in IP blocking/account nuking requests ;)
2005-12-06 34056, 2005
nikki` ponders whether he's already done so...
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ojnkpjg
if you start blocking by IP, you'll end up blocking legitimate users eventually
2005-12-06 34006, 2005
ojnkpjg
i think most dsl users in the usa have dynamic ips
2005-12-06 34015, 2005
ojnkpjg
i think my cable is dynamic
2005-12-06 34036, 2005
ojnkpjg
it hardly ever changes, but if i let a dhcp lease expire and didn't renew or request a new lease for a few days, i bet it'd change
2005-12-06 34038, 2005
Schika
same in germany 99% have dynamic IPs
2005-12-06 34028, 2005
ojnkpjg
plus, voting no is fun
2005-12-06 34030, 2005
Schika
depends on the mod
2005-12-06 34052, 2005
nikki`
these ones are just stupid though
2005-12-06 34058, 2005
nikki`
he's such a spoilt brat
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nikki`
can't ave hi s ow
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nikki`
n way so he'll keep trying
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nikki`
mfsdkpa
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nikki`
lag
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nikki`
can't see what I'm trying
2005-12-06 34026, 2005
nikki`
I said: can't have his own way so he'll keep trying.
2005-12-06 34027, 2005
wolfsong
hey what's DonRedman's screen name here?
2005-12-06 34031, 2005
nikki`
er, typing
2005-12-06 34034, 2005
nikki`
donredman.
2005-12-06 34041, 2005
wolfsong
figures
2005-12-06 34021, 2005
wolfsong
only people who share my name would have such consistent alter egos :-)
2005-12-06 34036, 2005
wolfsong
hey fuchs you busy?
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wolfsong
ruaok: any plans to only add MBIDs to tags?
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teleGUISE
yea..yea the cable was a bad example but dsl does change
2005-12-06 34016, 2005
PRAEst76
I know blocking Ip is a bad idea, I just find this business frustraiting. i don't understand the mentality of these people.
2005-12-06 34027, 2005
Russss
karmaaaa
2005-12-06 34036, 2005
nikki`
he told me I can't use ? in filenames.
2005-12-06 34038, 2005
PRAEst76
My memory of how that works is hazy but IIRC it could encourage "safe" voting
2005-12-06 34046, 2005
nikki`
holy shit! the world is ending! I just did!
2005-12-06 34056, 2005
nikki`
I even made an entire directory called ? !
2005-12-06 34059, 2005
rowaasr13
wolfsong, when you talking about "accessible to all" and "lowest denominator" you forget that you hurting needs of those who are outside this "lowest denominator".
2005-12-06 34016, 2005
PRAEst76
nikki`: You've destroyed us all. The universe will fold in on itself. I hope you are happy...
2005-12-06 34019, 2005
wolfsong
no i'm not
2005-12-06 34026, 2005
wolfsong
it's not like you can't use the data
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luks
hehe
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wolfsong
strict unicode excludes users in some case
2005-12-06 34011, 2005
rowaasr13
There's no way in hell I'm letting this local code page shit to gain one more step. Why I, who use software that works according to standards must be in disadvantage to those who do not?
2005-12-06 34022, 2005
nikki`
he could use the sortname if he really can't stand having japanese fonts
2005-12-06 34031, 2005
rowaasr13
Thanks to WinAmp I've already have tons of renaming to do.
2005-12-06 34049, 2005
wolfsong
rowaasr13: how many people do you think are using MBTagger vs. Picard?
2005-12-06 34004, 2005
rowaasr13
Fix tagger, not data.
2005-12-06 34004, 2005
nikki`
or he could, heaven forbid, just rename the damned things himself.
2005-12-06 34012, 2005
wolfsong
its' been listed on the home page for only a few weeks now
2005-12-06 34024, 2005
nikki`
we pointed him to picard
2005-12-06 34026, 2005
nikki`
he still complains
2005-12-06 34036, 2005
PRAEst76
Because picard can't use ? in names
2005-12-06 34042, 2005
wolfsong
fine grab the source from ruaok and get to work
2005-12-06 34056, 2005
nikki`
strangely enough, it strips all question marks from my filenames :)
2005-12-06 34059, 2005
wolfsong
he who complains nikki?
2005-12-06 34007, 2005
Schika
I've tested both on a win box - MBTagger is submitting TRMs but Picard not - is this normal?
2005-12-06 34009, 2005
nikki`
and strangely enough, the artist doesn't have any in the names...
2005-12-06 34020, 2005
PRAEst76
doesn't MB strive to be more than just a tagger anyway?
2005-12-06 34024, 2005
rowaasr13
I don't have problems (actually I use MB as reference, not as a tagging tool), so why I must do anything about it?
2005-12-06 34026, 2005
wolfsong
Schika: Picard doesn't use them
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teleGUISE
picard doesn't send trm
2005-12-06 34036, 2005
Schika
ah OK
2005-12-06 34054, 2005
wolfsong
PRAEst76: strive maybe but it's core purpose is to provide tagging data
2005-12-06 34010, 2005
wolfsong
we still have a ways to go on that road before we can do much more
