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      • Russss
        rowaasr13: Not really a good argument - the majority of MB users are english-speaking, and the majority of music on MB is english (currently).
      • 2005-12-07 34119, 2005

      • chocomo
        and i realise, that wihle I could use a only latin1 database. others can use other bits, who am I to inferiour their uses and the correct artistname (the way he / she spells it, byw) because I have an old system?
      • 2005-12-07 34129, 2005

      • marbahlarbs
        if you're reading the song title correctly, you can read THIS artist's name correctly. I'm not suggesting a global change.
      • 2005-12-07 34129, 2005

      • Russss
        by that token we should write everything in katakana.
      • 2005-12-07 34145, 2005

      • g0llum
        ruaok: that's all i needed to know.
      • 2005-12-07 34146, 2005

      • Russss
        just because we feel like it.
      • 2005-12-07 34149, 2005

      • g0llum
        bye
      • 2005-12-07 34153, 2005

      • g0llum has quit
      • 2005-12-07 34100, 2005

      • chocomo
        actually the majority is germna :p
      • 2005-12-07 34114, 2005

      • wolfsong
        ruaok: what continent are you on now?
      • 2005-12-07 34115, 2005

      • SenScrooge
        wow, that pumpkin pie is desimated... im the worst cook ever
      • 2005-12-07 34119, 2005

      • rowaasr13
        So, marbahlarbs, I'll even drop cyrillic request. Just go change "Beatles" to phonetic "Bitlz", so anyone familiar with latin can read it. When this mod is approved I swear I'll vote yes on your Yoko's mod.
      • 2005-12-07 34131, 2005

      • chocomo
        aww sen
      • 2005-12-07 34144, 2005

      • chocomo
        lol row
      • 2005-12-07 34146, 2005

      • Russss
        Of course it makes sense from an accuracy point of view to write each artist in its "original" language. This doesn't really coexist with the tagging ideal at the moment though. Especially for foreign artists which are (more) popular in english-speaking countries.
      • 2005-12-07 34152, 2005

      • marbahlarbs
        rowa: then you'd have to change all the song names too.
      • 2005-12-07 34113, 2005

      • chocomo
        I thoghu you said that you didn't want to change stuff goobaly
      • 2005-12-07 34116, 2005

      • chocomo
        globaly
      • 2005-12-07 34126, 2005

      • marbahlarbs
        I don't.
      • 2005-12-07 34127, 2005

      • rowaasr13
        Russss, I don't care about english tracks - do with them anything you want. I need only J and a bit of K from CJK.
      • 2005-12-07 34140, 2005

      • chocomo
        ruaok: you have a point, and I think thats what the taggerartist or what its called is for
      • 2005-12-07 34146, 2005

      • ruaok was going to let g0llum know that all was well
      • 2005-12-07 34106, 2005

      • ruaok
        wolfsong: still in .eu (Hamburg in .de specificially)
      • 2005-12-07 34108, 2005

      • chocomo
        nei ruaok sier jeg, I meant Russss
      • 2005-12-07 34126, 2005

      • chocomo
        sorry
      • 2005-12-07 34138, 2005

      • marbahlarbs
        you're blowing this way out of proportion. THIS artist's song titles and album titles are all in english, latin. It wouldn't hurt anything other than your ego to have the artist name also latin. (He would not be made English)
      • 2005-12-07 34159, 2005

      • chocomo
        why sould we al lcater to YOU?
      • 2005-12-07 34106, 2005

      • chocomo
        answer this
      • 2005-12-07 34128, 2005

      • ruaok
        because he is from america. :)
      • 2005-12-07 34132, 2005

      • chocomo
        XD
      • 2005-12-07 34157, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        ruaok: I sent g a sms with your quote ;)
      • 2005-12-07 34104, 2005

      • marbahlarbs
        you shouldn't "cater" to me. You should approve a change where there is a valid reason.
      • 2005-12-07 34114, 2005

      • marbahlarbs
        everything is english latin except the artist name
      • 2005-12-07 34120, 2005

      • marbahlarbs
        nothing is broken by the change
      • 2005-12-07 34123, 2005

      • chocomo
        maybe that is wrong
      • 2005-12-07 34130, 2005

      • marbahlarbs
        is it?
      • 2005-12-07 34137, 2005

      • PRAEst76 has quit
      • 2005-12-07 34146, 2005

      • ruaok
        teleGUISE: "g a" ??
      • 2005-12-07 34154, 2005

      • chocomo
        and if the guys japanese I doubt its english, it might soudn liek english and look lie english, but its still a japanese guy singign in engrish
      • 2005-12-07 34104, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        ruaok: g0llum aka Stefmeister
      • 2005-12-07 34122, 2005

      • ruaok wonders which quote
      • 2005-12-07 34130, 2005

      • Shepard
        * ruaok was going to let g0llum know that all was well
      • 2005-12-07 34135, 2005

      • chocomo
        tell me this, what do you think is on the guys birthcetificate?
      • 2005-12-07 34138, 2005

      • ruaok
        ah
      • 2005-12-07 34153, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        was that not good?..
      • 2005-12-07 34155, 2005

      • marbahlarbs
        what's on the cd?
      • 2005-12-07 34107, 2005

      • ruaok
        teleGUISE: no no. thanks!
      • 2005-12-07 34118, 2005

      • chocomo
        cd's don't thrumph birthcetificates. coem on
      • 2005-12-07 34135, 2005

      • marbahlarbs
        ok
      • 2005-12-07 34140, 2005

      • Shepard
        at the moment we can't separate those two parts
      • 2005-12-07 34142, 2005

      • ruaok
        its just funny that you would send an SMS from half way around the work to someone afew hundred miles away from me.
      • 2005-12-07 34148, 2005

      • marbahlarbs
        you are totally missing the point
      • 2005-12-07 34149, 2005

      • Shepard
        those are future plans
      • 2005-12-07 34154, 2005

      • SenScrooge has quit
      • 2005-12-07 34154, 2005

      • wolfsong
        actually mo they do to some extent
      • 2005-12-07 34156, 2005

      • chocomo
        but answer me, if yo uwas goign to tag anything with Sissel Kyrkjebø or Motör head. what woudl you do?
      • 2005-12-07 34108, 2005

      • chocomo
        wolfsong I thin kyou are wrogn on this
      • 2005-12-07 34116, 2005

      • wolfsong
        we don't put releases under artist birhtnames
      • 2005-12-07 34121, 2005

      • marbahlarbs
        choco: I'd leave it tagged in its original language
      • 2005-12-07 34128, 2005

      • chocomo
        ..
      • 2005-12-07 34132, 2005

      • chocomo
        then? I don't get it
      • 2005-12-07 34134, 2005

      • marbahlarbs
        if I can't read it, tough.
      • 2005-12-07 34137, 2005

      • chocomo
        thats whats here
      • 2005-12-07 34146, 2005

      • wolfsong
        however i'm not arguing that we shouldn't have accurate data
      • 2005-12-07 34102, 2005

      • chocomo
        well you cant read norwegian, so go a head change al lthe norwegian because you cant read it
      • 2005-12-07 34103, 2005

      • Shepard
        and what about others who can't read latin?
      • 2005-12-07 34112, 2005

      • wolfsong
        nor am i against having data in it's native language
      • 2005-12-07 34116, 2005

      • chocomo
        ok
      • 2005-12-07 34125, 2005

      • marbahlarbs
        An Adventure in Atlantica ???? (Change)
      • 2005-12-07 34127, 2005

      • chocomo
        the next schema thingy will fix this
      • 2005-12-07 34142, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        Shepard: where's my popcorn!
      • 2005-12-07 34143, 2005

      • chocomo
        instal japanese fonts, you'll see the text then
      • 2005-12-07 34153, 2005

      • wolfsong
        all i'm saying is that until we have a solution that works for everyone we should still have data that works for the majority of users
      • 2005-12-07 34155, 2005

      • Shepard
        teleGUISE: in the kitchen
      • 2005-12-07 34158, 2005

      • marbahlarbs
        I can't understand norwegian either, but I don't want it translated for me
      • 2005-12-07 34110, 2005

      • chocomo
        and ge thish. the majority isn't english
      • 2005-12-07 34111, 2005

      • marbahlarbs
        I'll listen in the original language and enjoy the melody
      • 2005-12-07 34111, 2005

      • Shepard
        still going *pop* *pop* *pop*
      • 2005-12-07 34124, 2005

      • chocomo
        the majority wants to have correct data because so
      • 2005-12-07 34128, 2005

      • wolfsong
        now i want some Shepard
      • 2005-12-07 34143, 2005

      • marbahlarbs
        but if the song is in english, I'd rather read the song title in english
      • 2005-12-07 34155, 2005

      • chocomo
        I doubth it, you don't seem liek a perso nthat woudl enjoy anything not in ascii
      • 2005-12-07 34157, 2005

      • marbahlarbs
        see the point
      • 2005-12-07 34105, 2005

      • chocomo
        no
      • 2005-12-07 34106, 2005

      • inhouseuk is keeping quiet and will continue to lurk
      • 2005-12-07 34114, 2005

      • marbahlarbs
        song=norwegian tag=norwegian
      • 2005-12-07 34115, 2005

      • chocomo
        the song is the song. the artist is the artist
      • 2005-12-07 34121, 2005

      • marbahlarbs
        song=engligh tag=english
      • 2005-12-07 34122, 2005

      • Shepard goes get some popcorn for teleGUISE and wolfsong and himself and then sits eating popcorn and watching the discussion amused
      • 2005-12-07 34129, 2005

      • wolfsong giggles at inhouseuk
      • 2005-12-07 34132, 2005

      • chocomo
        what I can't have some? ;_;M
      • 2005-12-07 34143, 2005

      • marbahlarbs
        david hasselhoff has put out cd's in germany.
      • 2005-12-07 34151, 2005

      • rowaasr13
        You know, lots of IRC protocol insides operate much higher than <127 ASCII. Please do a me favor and quit this devilish non-ASCII program.
      • 2005-12-07 34156, 2005

      • Shepard
        chocomo: just ask :)
      • 2005-12-07 34101, 2005

      • inhouseuk
        Shepard: can I have some of that popcorn?
      • 2005-12-07 34102, 2005

      • chocomo
        wee
      • 2005-12-07 34105, 2005

      • wolfsong
        and we thank him for not doing so in America LOL
      • 2005-12-07 34110, 2005

      • ruaok
        ohh popcorn.
      • 2005-12-07 34114, 2005

      • chocomo
        shep: can i have some popcorn and sit with ya'll?
      • 2005-12-07 34115, 2005

      • ruaok
        me too!
      • 2005-12-07 34123, 2005

      • Jetpack thinks they should use whatever characters are used on the CD - unless there are different CD's in different countries for the same artist
      • 2005-12-07 34134, 2005

      • marbahlarbs
        agreed
      • 2005-12-07 34139, 2005

      • Shepard
        okiday, popcorn for everyone!
      • 2005-12-07 34140, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        geez... there goes the 6 pack of bags...
      • 2005-12-07 34148, 2005

      • ruaok doesnt care as long as the popcorn is fatty
      • 2005-12-07 34153, 2005

      • wolfsong
        Jetpack: the problem is that they are
      • 2005-12-07 34157, 2005

      • chocomo yay!
      • 2005-12-07 34106, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        oh... he wants the Ultimate Butter....
      • 2005-12-07 34122, 2005

      • ruaok
        wait... I still have leftover summit snacks.
      • 2005-12-07 34123, 2005

      • teleGUISE has about 5 bags he'd gladly send... waayyyyyyy to much salt & butter for me
      • 2005-12-07 34124, 2005

      • wolfsong
        you're my kinda guy ruaok ... don't squirt the butter, pour it on
      • 2005-12-07 34135, 2005

      • Shepard
        no really you have?
      • 2005-12-07 34137, 2005

      • nechto13 joined the channel
      • 2005-12-07 34141, 2005

      • marbahlarbs
        *sigh*
      • 2005-12-07 34144, 2005

      • ruaok
        along with "pädagogen krepp"
      • 2005-12-07 34145, 2005

      • chocomo
        hi nechto13
      • 2005-12-07 34153, 2005

      • ruaok
        still stuck on the plastic bin
      • 2005-12-07 34155, 2005

      • Shepard
        lol
      • 2005-12-07 34103, 2005

      • chocomo
        pädagogen krepp? wtflol
      • 2005-12-07 34105, 2005

      • ruaok
        Shepard: yep.
      • 2005-12-07 34106, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        I like the 'movie theatre butter' variety... anything beyond is a grease pit
      • 2005-12-07 34107, 2005

      • nechto13
        hey chocomo, everyone
      • 2005-12-07 34123, 2005

      • nechto13
        chocomo: how's it going?
      • 2005-12-07 34130, 2005

      • ruaok
        hey nechto13
      • 2005-12-07 34136, 2005

      • ruaok
        its a doozie of an evening.
      • 2005-12-07 34138, 2005

      • chocomo
        need votes on http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=3850196 because the old one failed prequest
      • 2005-12-07 34143, 2005

      • chocomo
        :)
      • 2005-12-07 34146, 2005

      • chocomo
        how are you?
      • 2005-12-07 34105, 2005

      • wolfsong
        hi nechto13
      • 2005-12-07 34105, 2005

      • chocomo
        rest of the mods
      • 2005-12-07 34107, 2005

      • chocomo
      • 2005-12-07 34134, 2005

      • chocomo
        and I already added the performance AR's to the artist that's being merged into
      • 2005-12-07 34146, 2005

      • Shepard
        mo: don put tape around an open snack box so he could transport it
      • 2005-12-07 34147, 2005

      • ruaok
        oh hey. summit a-saft too
      • 2005-12-07 34109, 2005

      • chocomo
        hmm
      • 2005-12-07 34112, 2005

      • chocomo
        saft!
      • 2005-12-07 34115, 2005

      • teleGUISE
        choco why don't you just move the 2 albums over.... lot easier no begging for votes required
      • 2005-12-07 34118, 2005

      • chocomo
        hmm.. shaft
      • 2005-12-07 34119, 2005

      • ruaok
        pädagogen haben immer krepp mit dabei.
      • 2005-12-07 34120, 2005

      • nechto13
        hmm, today went a lot better than i expected and hopefully i'm in the clear
      • 2005-12-07 34122, 2005

      • ruaok
        WTF???
      • 2005-12-07 34128, 2005

      • chocomo
        because i liek merging
      • 2005-12-07 34134, 2005

      • wolfsong
        since DonRedman isn't around, any super wikizens around to help me with something?
      • 2005-12-07 34146, 2005

      • Shepard
        saft=juice
      • 2005-12-07 34146, 2005

      • chocomo
        wtf what?
      • 2005-12-07 34150, 2005

      • chocomo
        here too
      • 2005-12-07 34158, 2005

      • chocomo har lit solb�rsaft
      • 2005-12-07 34159, 2005

      • nechto13
        i like merging too, especially artists
      • 2005-12-07 34104, 2005

      • chocomo
        :D
      • 2005-12-07 34107, 2005

      • chocomo
        yay alisaessss