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g0ll
i have NAT, and firewall on host is off
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yalaforge
does ping work?
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g0ll
erst am installen
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g0ll
oder im xp?
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yalaforge
inside of vmware
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yalaforge
there should be a console, try Alt+F1 or something
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g0ll
i'm currently in the installer wizard, not yet a console there :/
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yalaforge
debian, right?
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cikkolata
alt F2?
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yalaforge
dunno
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g0ll
ah, yes there is one
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yalaforge
then try to ping something outside
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g0ll
ping mirror.switch.ch .........
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g0ll
nossing
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yalaforge
ping 130.59.10.35
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g0ll
destination host unreachable
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yalaforge
try ifconfig
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yalaforge
probably there's no interface configured
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yalaforge
except for lo, of course
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g0ll
grmbl, does not even now the command
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yalaforge
/sbin/ifconfig
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cikkolata
bah
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cikkolata
I knew the answer to that
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yalaforge
:-)
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g0ll
hehe
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yalaforge
cikkolata: you installed inside of vmware, right?
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g0ll
ok, i have eth0 and loopback
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cikkolata
yeah
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yalaforge
how did you connect to the outside?
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cikkolata
what did you pick for the networking when you set it up?
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cikkolata
it worked fine :/
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g0ll
i know. vmware did not ask to reboot after install
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g0ll
reboot
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yalaforge
after installing vmware?
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g0ll has quit
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yalaforge
would that change anything?
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cikkolata
I dunno
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yalaforge
probably vmware emulates some kind of ethernet card that is wired to XPs network stack
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yalaforge
don't know how it is implemented
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cikkolata
oh, and I'm running vmware on debian, so if it's a windows thing I wouldn't know
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yalaforge
but if the card isn't selected during debian setup it won't work, I guess
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yalaforge hasn't run windows for years
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Eirien has quit
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g0ll joined the channel
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g0ll
so, lets try again
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yalaforge
reinstall debian?
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g0ll
g0ll is now known as st00pidnick
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st00pidnick
no, just rebooting into existing first
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yalaforge
st00pidnick?
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st00pidnick
i guess it will start the apt configuration again
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st00pidnick
jep, today i hate the g0llum nick :)
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cikkolata
why did you pick it then?
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st00pidnick
because that's the one i use in mb
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yalaforge
hm. I think I know cikkolata's next question :-)
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st00pidnick
st00pidnick is now known as [silence]
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cikkolata giggles
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cikkolata
why did you pick that for mb then?
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cikkolata
I could... use my mb one
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cikkolata
:o
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[silence]
:)
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[silence]
i'd like Fant�mas, like the mike patton band.
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cikkolata
ssh! be silence!
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yalaforge
lol
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cikkolata
...
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cikkolata
shh!
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[silence]
i will grow tired of that one in 3 weeks again ;)
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[silence]
we should have numbers :)
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cikkolata
cikkolata is now known as [datatrack]
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[datatrack] spews garbage
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[silence]
ok: now i pick "web server"?
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[datatrack]
where are you?
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yalaforge
now I'm confused. again.
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[silence]
debian software selection
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[datatrack]
[datatrack] is now known as cikkolata
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cikkolata
me too
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[silence]
[silence] is now known as g0llum
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yalaforge
IIRC vmware acts as a DHCP server
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cikkolata
what did you pick for the networking when you set up the vmware thing?
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g0llum
uuh, forgot to tell you :)
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g0llum
of course it worked after rebooting
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g0llum
lol
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cikkolata
ah
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yalaforge
so now you have network support?
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g0llum
maybe you should now i use sarge-netinst
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g0llum
there's a selection for different types of installations
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g0llum
desktop environment
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g0llum
web server
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g0llum
print server ...
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g0llum
manual package selection
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cikkolata
"sarge-i386-netinst.iso"?
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g0llum
lemme check
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g0llum
thats affirmative
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yalaforge
well, with 4 GB you should try manual selection I think
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cikkolata
ah
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cikkolata
I skipped that and used apt-get later :o
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yalaforge
good idea
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cikkolata
because I fear manual selection bringing up dselect
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cikkolata
I think djce's scripts apt-get everything anyway
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g0llum
ok, its aptitude now
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yalaforge only uses apt-get and apt-cache search for package management
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cikkolata
me too
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ruaok nods
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cikkolata
hi ruaok!
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ruaok
hey.
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yalaforge
actually, there was a time when dselect worked well
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ruaok
time'o'day!
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yalaforge
hey!
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ruaok
yalaforge: hey.
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g0llum headbutts ruaok, ouch!
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ruaok ducks
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cikkolata
there was? wow...
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yalaforge
around debian 2.0 it was usable
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g0llum
i'm sorry :)
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yalaforge
fewer packages
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g0llum weeps
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g0llum
help please
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cikkolata
I've never used aptitude :(
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yalaforge
ah, no need to worry. everybody throws away their first few debian installs ;->
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g0llum
do i need anything, or could i run the scripts now?
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cikkolata
I didn'... oh wait
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cikkolata
no, you don't
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yalaforge
if you have networking, everything should work
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g0llum
cikkolata: i dont run the scripts? ;)
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cikkolata
you don't need anything, you could run the scripts
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yalaforge
no, you can install everything by hand
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g0llum
hehe, you bet
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cikkolata
and I really want some lemonade right now so I'm going to be back and forth for a little bit
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g0llum
funny question, how do i get the scripts into my nice little vmware?
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cikkolata
while I accidentally set the house on fire because the kitchen light doesn't work and I don't trust my "cooking"
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cikkolata
wget
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yalaforge
install wget
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g0llum
thx
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cikkolata
it isn't already installed?
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yalaforge
probably not
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g0llum
ouch, first its configuring exim v4
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g0llum
i don't need mail huh?
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yalaforge
heh, funny
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yalaforge prefers postfix
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canidae joined the channel
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g0llum
no configuration at this time he?
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yalaforge
g0llum: I think the last option was the best one for your system
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cikkolata
I just hit enter through the exim config
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somniloquy joined the channel
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yalaforge too
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yalaforge
then i remove exim and install postfix :-)
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canidae
"4" is the best option for a computer not supposed to send mail anywhere but locally
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canidae
only quiz you get then is "who should receive mail sent to root?" iirc
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g0llum
do i need the script logging thingy?
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g0llum
you guys can help right... :)
