i got raid1, 1 ibm disk & 1 wd... the ibm dies, and pulls down my entire system with it
2005-02-26 05738, 2005
cikkolata
:/
2005-02-26 05751, 2005
djce
cikkolata: I don't know what to make of that CSS thing. OK, so we know what's going on now. But two questions come to mind:
2005-02-26 05735, 2005
djce
(1) Is this a bug in those browsers? Since MB's css sets both color and background-color higher up in the document, shouldn't those cascade down to the forms?
2005-02-26 05714, 2005
djce
(2) Which colours should the forms use - MB's document colours, or the "theme" colours set elsewhere?
2005-02-26 05739, 2005
djce
I don't suppose you could look into (1), maybe using the DOM inspector, for me?
2005-02-26 05743, 2005
cikkolata
if it's a bug, it's a bug in every browser I've tried because if I remove the bits of CSS I mentioned, I always get the defaults.
2005-02-26 05747, 2005
cikkolata
sure
2005-02-26 05752, 2005
cikkolata
it's hard to navigate in the dark though
2005-02-26 05755, 2005
cikkolata scowls at firefox
2005-02-26 05751, 2005
cikkolata
what exactly do you want me to look at?
2005-02-26 05720, 2005
djce
What CSS rules are in place, and where they come from, which affect one of the input fields (pick one)
2005-02-26 05736, 2005
djce
I suppose it's no different from <a> colours, come to think of it.... everyone knows that even if you set a colour which applies to "html" or "body", that your link colours are still going to be blue/purple or whatever, unless you set them to be something else.
2005-02-26 05740, 2005
djce
It just means that writing CSS can be tricky, because your CSS is always going to interact with the browser's default CSS, and you don't know what or where those defaults are.
2005-02-26 05754, 2005
cikkolata nods
2005-02-26 05702, 2005
djce
oh well.... patch? :-)
2005-02-26 05716, 2005
djce
as I say that presumably depends on Q (2) though.
2005-02-26 05739, 2005
djce
Personally I'd opt for using MB's colours, as having black form fields inside a white document looks damn weird to me.
2005-02-26 05753, 2005
cikkolata
I'm not sure what's supposed to happen with form defaults, but browsers seem to assume to use the defaults unless explicitly set
2005-02-26 05709, 2005
cikkolata
and I can't work out where to look in the specs
2005-02-26 05733, 2005
cikkolata
black form fields which are readable are much nicer than ones that aren't though :P
2005-02-26 05750, 2005
cikkolata
I must be the only person on the planet who uses a colour scheme like this
2005-02-26 05747, 2005
cikkolata
and since that's my default colours, I'm used to seeing them black, white ones look odd to me
djce wonders what that emoticon means... I hope it's friendly :-)
2005-02-26 05737, 2005
cikkolata
the formstyle class isn't set for the google search.
2005-02-26 05746, 2005
cikkolata
it's more of "bleh"
2005-02-26 05753, 2005
cikkolata
I still think you should use defaults :P
2005-02-26 05744, 2005
cikkolata
what about the selects and checkboxes?
2005-02-26 05744, 2005
djce
cikkolata: ok, try the defaults then (i.e. remove color, background-color etc from all form-related elements). Then let's see how the page looks, both in a "dark" and a "light" theme.
2005-02-26 05708, 2005
djce
as long as they work and look usable, let's do that.
2005-02-26 05736, 2005
djce
It doesn't matter to 99% of the world because they use a "light" theme, so it's the same either way :-)
2005-02-26 05742, 2005
cikkolata
exactly
2005-02-26 05752, 2005
cikkolata
and the ones who don't are used to their silly colours
2005-02-26 05756, 2005
djce
the only change to most people would be in the sidebar
2005-02-26 05704, 2005
cikkolata
yeah
2005-02-26 05710, 2005
djce
the light gray form fields becoming white (for most people)
