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      • nikki_
        I'll have to disconnect myself to test the last one...
      • 2005-06-26 17707, 2005

      • ruaok
        can you do me a favor and just close the ones that work
      • 2005-06-26 17741, 2005

      • ruaok
        just add a note that says: "Works in recent CVS snapshots"
      • 2005-06-26 17706, 2005

      • ruaok
        the select nothing after delete thing really bugs me.
      • 2005-06-26 17712, 2005

      • ruaok
        that needs to come back soon
      • 2005-06-26 17749, 2005

      • catalyst` joined the channel
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      • ruaok
        thanks nikki_ !
      • 2005-06-26 17738, 2005

      • nikki_
        :)
      • 2005-06-26 17735, 2005

      • nikki_
        hmm
      • 2005-06-26 17746, 2005

      • nikki_
        one of the open ones is a duplicate of one of the ones I just closed
      • 2005-06-26 17709, 2005

      • nikki_
        should I close that one too?
      • 2005-06-26 17710, 2005

      • ruaok
        wow. fuch's bug is a segfault 64 function call levels deep.
      • 2005-06-26 17717, 2005

      • ruaok
        please
      • 2005-06-26 17736, 2005

      • ruaok
        I've never seen a callstack that deep
      • 2005-06-26 17749, 2005

      • nikki_
        oh wait, I can only close my own...
      • 2005-06-26 17749, 2005

      • ruaok
        (short of run away recursion)
      • 2005-06-26 17724, 2005

      • ruaok
        link plz. I'll fix it.
      • 2005-06-26 17740, 2005

      • nikki_
      • 2005-06-26 17752, 2005

      • nikki_
        hmm!
      • 2005-06-26 17757, 2005

      • nikki_
        the last one is half fixed
      • 2005-06-26 17743, 2005

      • nikki_
        things are grouped into albums, but even when I plug the cable back in, it still doesn't find anything
      • 2005-06-26 17710, 2005

      • nikki_
        so I get a load of [loading album information] things
      • 2005-06-26 17703, 2005

      • nikki_ ponders...
      • 2005-06-26 17714, 2005

      • nikki_
        I think it should at least attempt to connect again when I drop more tracks onto the new files bit
      • 2005-06-26 17735, 2005

      • nikki_
        hmm... does anyone have the chemical brothers' 'surrender'?
      • 2005-06-26 17752, 2005

      • ruaok
        nikki_: bug closed, please add a note to that bug with that suggestion, yes
      • 2005-06-26 17723, 2005

      • ruaok
        resp., of course
      • 2005-06-26 17754, 2005

      • nikki_
        resp?
      • 2005-06-26 17727, 2005

      • ruaok
        respectively
      • 2005-06-26 17742, 2005

      • nikki_
        ahh
      • 2005-06-26 17730, 2005

      • ruaok
        ok, freeze bug debugged. will fix when awake
      • 2005-06-26 17738, 2005

      • ruaok
        nikki_: can you reproduce this bug?
      • 2005-06-26 17739, 2005

      • ruaok
      • 2005-06-26 17755, 2005

      • ruaok
        can any tagger user here try to reproduce that bug?
      • 2005-06-26 17703, 2005

      • ruaok has no problems
      • 2005-06-26 17732, 2005

      • nikki_
        I can't reproduce it either
      • 2005-06-26 17712, 2005

      • ruaok
        I think its a browser caching bug.
      • 2005-06-26 17723, 2005

      • ruaok
        I asked him was browser he used.
      • 2005-06-26 17741, 2005

      • ruaok
        maybe picard needs to issue "no cache" headers.
      • 2005-06-26 17749, 2005

      • WireD has quit
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      • nikki_ is pleased that the weather is being better today
      • 2005-06-26 17757, 2005

      • ruaok
        cooler and rain? :-)
      • 2005-06-26 17712, 2005

      • nikki_
        much cooler, 13C
      • 2005-06-26 17715, 2005

      • nikki_
        no rain though
      • 2005-06-26 17741, 2005

      • ruaok
        wow. that is cool.
      • 2005-06-26 17754, 2005

      • nikki_
        yeah :)
      • 2005-06-26 17728, 2005

      • ruaok
        its 12C here now. At 01:00
      • 2005-06-26 17752, 2005

      • nikki_
        hmm!
      • 2005-06-26 17753, 2005

      • ruaok
        it'll be oct before we have 13C during the day.
      • 2005-06-26 17702, 2005

      • lObo
        lObo is now known as lOborot
      • 2005-06-26 17714, 2005

      • ruaok
        google maps now has sat pic for the *whole* planet.
      • 2005-06-26 17758, 2005

      • nikki_
        really?
      • 2005-06-26 17718, 2005

      • ruaok
        quick, post a link of where you are at, *right now*.
      • 2005-06-26 17720, 2005

      • ruaok
        go!
      • 2005-06-26 17735, 2005

      • nikki_
        hmm?
      • 2005-06-26 17748, 2005

      • ruaok
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      • ruaok
        ok, I'm off to sleep.
      • 2005-06-26 17703, 2005

      • ruaok
        night!
      • 2005-06-26 17708, 2005

      • ruaok is away: snorekls
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      • WireD has quit
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      • Knio has quit
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      • lulla has quit
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      • lOborot
        lOborot is now known as lOboraw
      • 2005-06-26 17721, 2005

      • Shepard
        still not very detailed in other countries
      • 2005-06-26 17745, 2005

      • nikki_ notices
      • 2005-06-26 17747, 2005

      • nikki_ noticed
      • 2005-06-26 17707, 2005

      • Duncan joined the channel
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      • Shepard
        i prefer using NASA World Wind for satellite views :)
      • 2005-06-26 17706, 2005

      • Duncan
        hey all
      • 2005-06-26 17736, 2005

      • nikki_
        hi
      • 2005-06-26 17753, 2005

      • Duncan
        I just discovered musicbrainz, it's a great idea
      • 2005-06-26 17710, 2005

      • Duncan
        i've been searching for something like this for ages
      • 2005-06-26 17717, 2005

      • Duncan
        I was wondering, what is the procedure when a song is in the database, but it fails to tag a track?
      • 2005-06-26 17709, 2005

      • lOboraw has quit
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      • Duncan
        I am thinking from a contribution point of view here. Can the database store more than one trm for each track?
      • 2005-06-26 17712, 2005

      • luks
        yes, it can
      • 2005-06-26 17730, 2005

      • luks
        you have to find track, tag it and then press 'Submit tagged information to MusicBrainz' button
      • 2005-06-26 17757, 2005

      • luks
        if you are using windows version of tagger...
      • 2005-06-26 17716, 2005

      • Duncan
        could you tell me what the number beside the trm symbol on the search page represents?
      • 2005-06-26 17729, 2005

      • Duncan
        yes, sadly i am in windows
      • 2005-06-26 17738, 2005

      • nikki_
        the number of TRMs
      • 2005-06-26 17759, 2005

      • Duncan
        ok, thanks. i thought it might be obvious :)
      • 2005-06-26 17751, 2005

      • nikki_ smiles
      • 2005-06-26 17704, 2005

      • nikki_
        sometimes we manage to not confuse people ;)
      • 2005-06-26 17728, 2005

      • nikki_ makes a mental note that she needs to spin the chair anticlockwise to raise the seat
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      • Duncan
        I have been reading the FAQs and see that you have some exacting standards for entry of information into the database. I don't want to put in incorrect information, that must be paramount, but equally so I have some untagged tracks (not many mind, only 30 in 600-odd and about half of those are understandable) that I would like to submit. These are tracks that I have downloaded individually from the internet using various
      • 2005-06-26 17744, 2005

      • Duncan
        oh god, that really was an essay...
      • 2005-06-26 17750, 2005

      • Duncan
        sorry for length :)
      • 2005-06-26 17705, 2005

      • nikki_
        I only got stuff as far as "from the internet using various"
      • 2005-06-26 17734, 2005

      • luks
        me too. freenode is probably trimming long messages
      • 2005-06-26 17730, 2005

      • Duncan
        file sharing applications, as is most of my music collection. I do not know which specific version of these tracks I have, which makes it difficult to choose when there are several almost identical versions. What should I do?
      • 2005-06-26 17736, 2005

      • Duncan
        soz
      • 2005-06-26 17726, 2005

      • nikki_
        take a guess, that's pretty much all you can do.
      • 2005-06-26 17737, 2005

      • nikki_
        but you can check the song lengths
      • 2005-06-26 17710, 2005

      • nikki_
        and it's much more likely that your version comes from the main version of the album than, for example, an obscure remix on a limited edition single or something :)
      • 2005-06-26 17732, 2005

      • Duncan
        ok, thanks for the info
      • 2005-06-26 17730, 2005

      • luks
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      • DJKC
        fuchs: hmm, do you have the same name on the site?
      • 2005-06-26 17755, 2005

      • xulin- has quit
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      • lObo
        lObo is now known as lOboraw
      • 2005-06-26 17721, 2005

      • fuchs
        DJKC: yes, why? :)
      • 2005-06-26 17710, 2005

      • DJKC
        ^^;
      • 2005-06-26 17732, 2005

      • DJKC
        http://musicbrainz.org/mod/search/results.html?ar… the capitalization was correct already
      • 2005-06-26 17757, 2005

      • DJKC
        unrelated - http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=2946217 that mod really confuses me
      • 2005-06-26 17713, 2005

      • DJKC
        because it's a portishead album. and if you look at the freedb entry they imported from it even says portishead
      • 2005-06-26 17717, 2005

      • fuchs
        DJKC: what do i have to read? there is no special note neither in the cpaitalization guideline nor is there a japanese specific page
      • 2005-06-26 17716, 2005

      • DJKC
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      • DJKC
        basically every Japanese artist qualifies for the style exception guide in terms of caps use
      • 2005-06-26 17759, 2005

      • fuchs
        thx
      • 2005-06-26 17739, 2005

      • DJKC
        http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrain… is part of it where I gave a specific example using her
      • 2005-06-26 17756, 2005

      • dju` joined the channel
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      • DJKC
        if you had looked at her mod history too you might have noticed them being changed by others that weren't aware and then being changed back with the same explanation ^^;
      • 2005-06-26 17703, 2005

      • havane has quit
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      • DJKC
        essentially though please don't change the capitalization of Japanese releases unless you're familiar with the artist and know it's actually wrong
      • 2005-06-26 17730, 2005

      • dju` has quit
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      • luks
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      • fuchs
        DJKC: this should be mentioned somewhere, even from reading the ml discussion it's not clear, why japanese should be a special case ;)
      • 2005-06-26 17728, 2005

      • luks
        almost all languages has special rules for capitapization
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      • luks
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      • fuchs
        luks: yeah, that's where i was looking for an exception - but there was none
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      • _mo
        "We could not understand the location Norway"
      • 2005-06-26 17747, 2005

      • _mo
        stupid maps
      • 2005-06-26 17748, 2005

      • _mo
        hi
      • 2005-06-26 17730, 2005

      • fuchs
        luks: and even more disturbing - if i have albums with english and german track titles, or mixtures of them I apply the english style to the english parts and the german to the others, why is it different for japanese?
      • 2005-06-26 17749, 2005

      • _mo
        because it is artist intent
      • 2005-06-26 17755, 2005

      • luks
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      • luks
        of messed english capitalization
      • 2005-06-26 17735, 2005

      • luks
        but all titles are correct, because artist wanted it that way
      • 2005-06-26 17717, 2005

      • fuchs
        i understand this example - because the capital letters in the tracks build the title of the album - although i think, this should at least be mentioned in the annotations ;)
      • 2005-06-26 17703, 2005

      • luks
        people, i need one more vote on this - http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=2948593
      • 2005-06-26 17724, 2005

      • _mo
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      • luks
        you are always welcome :)
      • 2005-06-26 17709, 2005

      • fuchs
        how do you prevent people like me who simply go through the "suggestions" fixing some obviously wrong caps from doing so? ;)
      • 2005-06-26 17731, 2005

      • fuchs
        wouldn't it be easier to write http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/wiki.pl?Capitalizatio… with something like "Don't change Japanese capitalization mess!" ;)
      • 2005-06-26 17733, 2005

      • luks
        fuchs: *please* vote on that merge mod :p
      • 2005-06-26 17721, 2005

      • fuchs
        i'm trying to fix my mess :)
      • 2005-06-26 17736, 2005

      • fuchs
        luks: the artist merge?
      • 2005-06-26 17739, 2005

      • luks
        yes
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      • luks
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      • fuchs
        is it correct? :o)
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      • luks
        yes
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      • luks
        absolutely
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      • fuchs
        done ;)
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      • luks
        ok, thanks :)
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      • luks
        i don't wanted to wait another hour
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      • luks
        DJKC: can you explain me one think, please? which version is correct?
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      • luks
        CAN YOU CELEBRATE? (Wedding Mix)