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      • Cali^Gal
        Hello? Anyone home?

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      • cikkolata
        me

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      • Cali^Gal
        Are you an MB user?

        • 2005-01-02 00237, 2005

      • cikkolata
        yes

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      • Cali^Gal
        Hmm.. K.

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      • cikkolata
        any reason you're asking?

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      • cikkolata
        we're kinda quiet in here :/

        • 2005-01-02 00237, 2005

      • Cali^Gal
        Well..I've been using the software this weekend and it kinda bugs on something, but maybe I'm not using a setting or not using it properly.

        • 2005-01-02 00223, 2005

      • Cali^Gal
        If a song has a specific TRM number, why doesn't the list of possible matching songs show by a matching TRM number?

        • 2005-01-02 00254, 2005

      • Cali^Gal
        And the search function when I use the TRM number.. it wants the WHOLE thing instead of allowing for a partial number search.

        • 2005-01-02 00224, 2005

      • cikkolata
        not sure about the first, the second is probably because a partial search is pretty useless

        • 2005-01-02 00228, 2005

      • Cali^Gal
        No..I mean.. if I can post 10 letters and a part of the song title, that would be an easier list to pull, instead of 6 letters that it won't search for.

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      • cikkolata
        but why would you only know 10 of the letters?

        • 2005-01-02 00228, 2005

      • Cali^Gal
        Not that I know only 10 letters, but because I've noticed that you cannot highlight and copy and paste a TRM # and if you make 1 mistake, you'll have a completely different song, than what you were searching for.

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      • cikkolata
        I'm not sure, I don't really use the windows tagger :/

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      • Cali^Gal
        You said you use the software.

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      • cikkolata
        I use the site, which is also musicbrainz.

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      • Cali^Gal
        What's the difference?

        • 2005-01-02 00233, 2005

      • cikkolata
        the tagger uses the site, so do a few other things

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      • Cali^Gal
        Maybe someone else might know then.

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      • cikkolata prods ruaok

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      • cikkolata
        oh well.

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      • ikari_
        hi, i have a question about the windows client

        • 2005-01-02 00223, 2005

      • cikkolata
        I don't really use it, but I can try to answer

        • 2005-01-02 00233, 2005

      • ikari_
        well before i hit the almighty tag and rename button, what does the client do if it encounters two of the same songs and tries to rename them? i dont want to accidentally have a lower bitrate copy of a file overwrite a decent one

        • 2005-01-02 00203, 2005

      • cikkolata
        I think it puts (1) after the name

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      • cikkolata
        then (2), (3), etc.

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      • ikari_
        ok, thanks

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      • lenner1
        hello

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      • cikkolata
        hi

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      • lenner1
        i've been desperately searching the internet for a couple of hours for a decent gtk musicbrainz client that approximates the functionality of MBTagger, alas to no effect

        • 2005-01-02 00217, 2005

      • lenner1
        very frustrating

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      • cikkolata
        the only gtk thing I know of is picard

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      • lenner1
        that doesn't build here :-s

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      • cikkolata
        why not?

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      • mkf
        it took me a good amount of time and some hacking to get picard to work for me

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      • cikkolata
        the dependencies can be a complete pain in the arse

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      • mkf
        and then it died right away

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      • lenner1
        don't know exactly, I tried it a couple o days ago

        • 2005-01-02 00204, 2005

      • lenner1
        dependency hell is a long time ago for me

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      • mkf
        cikkolata: is there still active development on picard?

        • 2005-01-02 00249, 2005

      • mkf
        (that's actually why I dropped by this channel)

        • 2005-01-02 00254, 2005

      • cikkolata
        I thought that, until I had to compile everything picard wanted (except python) by hand

        • 2005-01-02 00227, 2005

      • cikkolata
        right now, no, ruaok's busy working on AR, but I think he's planning to work on picard next or something

        • 2005-01-02 00235, 2005

      • mkf
        what is AR?

        • 2005-01-02 00237, 2005

      • lenner1
        AR ?

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      • cikkolata
        advanced relationships

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      • mkf
        further explanation?

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      • lenner1
        i hope picard is being developed in c#, and it should be if they want to be cross-plat

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      • mkf
        pfft!

        • 2005-01-02 00244, 2005

      • mkf
        (it's in python, which is a better cross-plat choice imho)

        • 2005-01-02 00244, 2005

      • cikkolata
        http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/wiki.pl?AdvancedRelat… might explain it

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      • mkf
        oh I see. cool

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      • lenner1
        hmm, my bad, i meant .net

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      • lenner1
        mono and all

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      • cikkolata
        I don't really think mono is far enough along, really.

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      • lenner1
        isn't python a bit slow (I remember pySoulseek ugh)

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      • cikkolata
        it doesn't seem slow to me.

        • 2005-01-02 00202, 2005

      • cikkolata
        it uses c++ for some stuff too

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      • mkf
        Yeah, the nicotine python slsk client seems totally reasonable for me

        • 2005-01-02 00248, 2005

      • mkf
        cikkolata: so picard is actually usable for you?

        • 2005-01-02 00254, 2005

      • cikkolata
        yep

        • 2005-01-02 00209, 2005

      • mkf
        cikkolata: when I dragged files from the file view to the "drag here to tag", I got an exception and everything stopped working

        • 2005-01-02 00220, 2005

      • mkf
        should I do something else?

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      • cikkolata
        bizarre

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      • cikkolata
        you could try adding files from the file menu

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      • mkf
        well, to get to this point, I had to fix another exception related to an incorrect type being passed to the wx library

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      • mkf
        so it's possible that I have a slightly different set of library versions and that's one of the problems

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      • cikkolata
        quite possible, picard's currently really picky about libraries

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      • cikkolata
        I've found that older ones generally work, then give you obscure errors

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      • mkf
        I have a sligthly newer version of wxWhatever then was listed

        • 2005-01-02 00257, 2005

      • mkf
        oh, so maybe that's the problem?

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      • cikkolata
        hmm, I don't think a newer version would be the problem

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      • mkf
        oh now its working

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      • mkf
        hey while I'm at it, is it possible to add an album to the musicbrainz library that's *not* on freedb?

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      • lenner1
        any chance of picard running in wine ?

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      • cikkolata
        yes and I don't know

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      • lenner1
        hmm, looks like qmbtagger works

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      • cikkolata
        mkf: on the artist's page, you can click add album instead of import album

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      • mkf
        cikkolata: ahh ok

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      • cikkolata
        the guess case function just broke on me.

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