anyway, I don't mind keeping the actual title part of japanese stuff how it is, but when it comes to stuff like mix names, it would bug me too much. I still think those should be kept consistent, I've seen tildes, fullwidth brackets, those corner bracket things, and I'm sure someone's used various other types of brackets.
2005-01-06 00602, 2005
cikkolata
if I make sense :/
2005-01-06 00613, 2005
DJKC
well
2005-01-06 00621, 2005
cikkolata
this is why I don't do much discussioning
2005-01-06 00626, 2005
DJKC
stuff like -instrumental- I can see turning into (instrumental)
2005-01-06 00647, 2005
DJKC
but a lot of times the fullwidth ~ character gets used to seperate parts of titles, not denote a mix name
it seems that my thoughts on it come down keep it as it is except for things like mixes and instrumental and other stuff like that, oh, and I'd say ASCII brackets need space before them, they look silly otherwise :/
every time my browser (which is fullscreen with a 1600x1200 resolution) scrolls, someone gets a nice link to tinyurl
2005-01-06 00616, 2005
DJKC
all the mixes of that song on the single for it use the fullwidth ~ but other mixes of it are denoted more normally (for Avex) with " instead
2005-01-06 00624, 2005
DJKC
http://www.tsunku.net/morning_musume.htm If you scroll down to the 2nd album from the top, Best Morning Musume 2, you also kind of see awareness about the goofiness with full vs half characters a bit
2005-01-06 00600, 2005
DJKC
"Do it! NOW" uses regular ! with a space after, YAH! Ai shitai uses fullwidth and no space
2005-01-06 00602, 2005
DJKC
and the fun thing about sites like his is, you kind of avoid those arguments people give about "are you sure that's what the artist intended and not some printer decision" because he wrote all the songs, produced all the music, and it's his personal website with commentary on every track. Presumably the form that appears there is going to be how he wanted it
2005-01-06 00657, 2005
DJKC
heh
2005-01-06 00627, 2005
DJKC
cikkolata: random reason for fullwidth in tags - AS drops most submissions that begin with ( and end in )
2005-01-06 00639, 2005
DJKC is playing [Every Little Thing] - [Every Best Single+3] - [(When) Will It Rain (Instrumental)]
2005-01-06 00648, 2005
cikkolata tuts
2005-01-06 00650, 2005
DJKC
that doesn't submit, but fullwidthing them does ^^;
2005-01-06 00658, 2005
cikkolata
baaaad!
2005-01-06 00601, 2005
cikkolata giggles
2005-01-06 00647, 2005
cikkolata
oops
2005-01-06 00653, 2005
cikkolata
just sucked my friend into musicbrainz >D
2005-01-06 00619, 2005
cikkolata
hey, DJKC, how many japanese artists/albums do you have?
2005-01-06 00627, 2005
cikkolata
I could have sworn you told me once before
2005-01-06 00614, 2005
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HairMetalAddict
"Tonight I'm gonna party like it's 19,999"
2005-01-06 00635, 2005
HairMetalAddict
:-P
2005-01-06 00652, 2005
cikkolata
err?
2005-01-06 00621, 2005
cikkolata
what the hell
2005-01-06 00628, 2005
cikkolata
I can't post notes anymore
2005-01-06 00640, 2005
HairMetalAddict
According to the "most active mods overall" list, I've got 19,999 moderations. ;-)
2005-01-06 00656, 2005
cikkolata
maybe it's detected that I seriously need a life
2005-01-06 00657, 2005
cikkolata
ahh
2005-01-06 00614, 2005
HairMetalAddict
Is it giving an error message in the popup? That happens sometimes.
2005-01-06 00618, 2005
cikkolata
nope
2005-01-06 00627, 2005
cikkolata
it just... does nothing
2005-01-06 00634, 2005
cikkolata
I restarted opera too, same thing
2005-01-06 00645, 2005
HairMetalAddict
Hmmm, I posted a note about 10 minutes ago. (Mozilla)
2005-01-06 00635, 2005
cikkolata
it was working fine whenever I last tried
2005-01-06 00659, 2005
cikkolata
bah
2005-01-06 00604, 2005
cikkolata
dammit, firefox works
2005-01-06 00652, 2005
HairMetalAddict
Just added another mod note
2005-01-06 00650, 2005
HairMetalAddict
Just added a mod note using Opera (7.54 for Linux)
2005-01-06 00622, 2005
cikkolata
stop teasing me and my lack of mod note posting ability! :p
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sem
is there some hotkey or button i'm missing for saving just the selected track, not all of them?
2005-01-06 00612, 2005
Kanmu
I don't think so
2005-01-06 00631, 2005
sem
ah. oh well, as long as i'm not overlooking something
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_ramoz
why did the server suddenly get so busy?
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somnout
somnout is now known as somniloquy
2005-01-06 00615, 2005
dupuy
cikkolata: around?
2005-01-06 00648, 2005
dupuy
does your charset counter look only at track titles, or does it also look at artist names/aliases?
2005-01-06 00613, 2005
dupuy
s=track=track/album=
2005-01-06 00642, 2005
DJKC
cikkolata: around 500 for artists. not sure on albums. tracks works out to around 12-15k if I remember right
2005-01-06 00619, 2005
DJKC
it gets dodgy when counting stuff like all the ddr soundtracks or dancemania compilations on Toshiba-EMI
2005-01-06 00643, 2005
DJKC
right under 13k if I don't count any game or anime soundtracks, another 5k if you count anime OSTs, another 3k if you count game soundtracks. Oh, and 3500-4000 unsorted tracks that's probably 90-95%+ Japanese stuff. So all total close to 25k for tracks I guess. If you go off averages around 2-2.5k albums I guess
2005-01-06 00626, 2005
kass
Really? I've had a LOT of problems getting my anime OSTs id'd
2005-01-06 00653, 2005
kass
I must have the 10% that's not in the db. :)
2005-01-06 00603, 2005
DJKC
huh?
2005-01-06 00621, 2005
DJKC
I was responding to [02:20 01/06] <cikkolata> hey, DJKC, how many japanese artists/albums do you have?
2005-01-06 00628, 2005
kass
Ahhhh
2005-01-06 00640, 2005
kass
I thought you were talking how much stuff was in the db for id'ing stuff
2005-01-06 00643, 2005
DJKC
at a guess I'd say out of that 25k probably 20% at most is in MB
by her analysis, there's about 6000 tracks with Japanese characters in the titles
2005-01-06 00638, 2005
DJKC
although that ignores all the Japanese songs with English titles
2005-01-06 00643, 2005
kass nods
2005-01-06 00647, 2005
DJKC
and romanized stuff
2005-01-06 00618, 2005
kass
I tend to romanize all my titles, just so I know what I'm listening to
2005-01-06 00620, 2005
DJKC
mostly I stick to a Japanese freedb server for tagging stuff since MB tagger doesn't support unicode right yet
2005-01-06 00636, 2005
DJKC
I keep everything in the original, even for languages I can't read like Korean ^^;
2005-01-06 00656, 2005
kass
I run mostly in shell mode, so romanized means I can actually see a filename at all
2005-01-06 00618, 2005
DJKC
errr, it's not that hard to get Japanese/etc support at the command line
2005-01-06 00622, 2005
kass
I know
2005-01-06 00636, 2005
DJKC
I've had it under windows and freebsd, pretty sure it's similar under linux to freebsd...
2005-01-06 00640, 2005
kass
But I don't have it, and it's not something I really want, as I can't read anything but roman based languages
2005-01-06 00605, 2005
DJKC
fair enough ^^
2005-01-06 00632, 2005
kass
I can understand the purist view, though, but yeah, I'd like to be able to find my Megumi Hayashibara or whatever, without having to remember what it looks like in Japanese :)
2005-01-06 00658, 2005
DJKC
well, I can read/speak Japanese. generally half-ass my way for meaning through Chinese too
2005-01-06 00618, 2005
DJKC
so really it's just Korean stuff I have to rely on memory for what an artist/song's name is
2005-01-06 00648, 2005
kass nods. My knowledge of japanese has come from anime, so its pretty piss poor, but there's a number of artists I've found that I like.
2005-01-06 00600, 2005
DJKC
heh
2005-01-06 00616, 2005
DJKC
for hayashibara "Until Strawberry Sherbert" is the only song that comes to mind always
2005-01-06 00653, 2005
kass
That one is definitely very very odd
2005-01-06 00636, 2005
DJKC
not that odd
2005-01-06 00644, 2005
DJKC
Halcali has a lot of similar songs
2005-01-06 00618, 2005
kass nods. I'm not terribly well versed in Japanese artists, I tend to grab bits and pieces when I hear something I like
2005-01-06 00607, 2005
kass
I'd love to find some more Akira Tarasaki, but I've not had much luck. Just have one CD. :/
2005-01-06 00646, 2005
DJKC
tara or taka?
2005-01-06 00624, 2005
kass
taka, my bad, cd case is cracked right on the k :P
2005-01-06 00621, 2005
DJKC
is he from the band Loudness?
2005-01-06 00600, 2005
DJKC
ah, yep
2005-01-06 00659, 2005
DJKC
probably going to be easier to find Loudness stuff than his older solo works
2005-01-06 00649, 2005
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WoodCutter
whats the news on new features, re year and genres? Is this something thats happening soon ?
