#musicbrainz

hi Russss

huh?

hey

g0llum: the triangles on the left side menu are some pixels off

functionality is the same, but i've documented it

So, what bugs were you trying to fix?

come on!

?

we've discussed that yesterday, that i'll do the changes to the css

I must be missing something. Let me re-read your six patch mails.

djce: remember, do not mind you changed stuff of mine - but i expect you to do the same. after all, i'm taking care of the javavascript stuff

lol javava. i'm overworked, and my skin is thin - maybe this does not belong to the main chat - if i offended you i'm sorry

i've worked 4 hrs on it, and you're asking me what i was trying to do (/me sighs)

I'm trying to make a stable release. I hope you understand that too.

Is there any reason you added css rules for a:visited?

gaah. the 6th patch is not applied

yes. the links you had visited before showed differently.

what browser?

that's the mentioned pseudo-classes

all. for instance, they were not set in the dropdown

all, afaik

Not mine. How was it appearing instead?

blueish

including firefox?

I was testing using firefox, konqueror and IE5.0 and they were all fine.

IE5, and IE5.5 are the really bad

fuck IE5

that's our opinion

Well, mine too. But as it happened, it worked in IE5.

actually we were slightly surprised how well our new site works in IE5 given that we hadn't tested it at all

well, whatever the reason. it's good to specify the classes, because else you get unexpected results

for the menu elements, they should all have the same color (unlike page content, where it's useful IMO)

but we do override the link colors anyway, an you can't make out that big a difference -> so it looks more like an error to users if you don't stick to the colour scheme

finally something where exon is right, most times i'm a bit annoyed by his comments

True, I've just never found it necessary to add those rules.

:-) but in a way, he's right.

There is a balance to strike between accessibility and looking nice.

It's hard, I think we'd all agree that.

i forgot to add the sixth patch before sending you the whole stuff

I often turn off css just so I can see which links I've been to because mb makes everything the same :/

hmm

I wish opera had an option to use a stylesheet just for one site...

then I could change anything I wanted without worrying about destroying the rest of the web

g0llum: are you hacking on your server at the moment?

I managed to change the pending edit colour without killing other websites, but that's a class and stuff

I hope so, 'cos it looks rather broken.

just applied the 6th patch again

what was broken?

want a snapshot? quite a bit.

nikki_: i've promised you we'll try to come up with a minimal stylesheet you'll like ok?

yay!!

djce: yes

ok, 1 min/

XSL is evil

Russss: why?

mainly because I don't know it :P

oh wait, either you just fixed it or my cache wasn't cleaned :-) it's ok now.

but it's better than DSSSL :P

yeah, much better

XSL-T is funny

the only thing that still breaks the opera-stuff, is

* Home (sidebar open)

but crap because it's a programming language in XML which is not what anyone wants ;)

* close sidebar

* go contribute

* back home

* open sidebar

Shepard: it's not really a prog language

XSL isn't really a programming language though

heh

wheras DSSSL is. Kind of.

it is supposed to be

for a certain task only but it is

no, it's meant for transformations

programming languages are more complex (e.g. C) or convoluted (e.g. asm or bf)

well, it has foreach, if, else, ... :P

it's a template language

it's halfway b/t markup and macro

it is markup!

XML :D

that's like saying C is text/plain

right

so it's a programming language :P

but only with a certain focus

who cares, it's annoying

so it's limited

I'm beginning to doubt if it is actually better than DSSSL

Russss: it's much better than DSSSL if you're working w/ XML

what are you (thinking of) using it for anyway?

docbook

I want to make HTML from docbook which doesn't look shite

ooh, that's going to take some effort

hah

XSLT is definitely easier than DSSSL for that

I was thinking of doing something like that for my website, but I found parsewiki which worked much better for me

err.. is he kidding me? http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=3366704

drop an N bomb!

its also credited to SoaD a lot

N? N has a high HoF

woosh. over my head

uh.. it's 9/11 today

HoF = Heat of Fusion, HoF of N is .3604kJ/mol (kJ - kilo-Joules btw)

N bomb = vote no

the HoF of H is .05868 for reference

thanks.

N bomb = completely impractical and would never happen

kay.

take off every zig!

move zig, move zig, move zig

for great justice!

do you continue last night's discussion? ;)

you know what you're doing, take off every zig

ive forgotten last night

you better do :)

all your base are belong to us!

last night never happened!

how are you gentleman?

fuchs: I made some changes to http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/MedleyStyle based off of the comments, what do you think of it now?

somniloquy is now known as somnaway

dseomn: btw, you could add some _real_ examples

thanks!

I could use a locker key for college more though

fuchs: ok

forget your com?

what you say

if you want some real example - http://musicbrainz.org/album/79ada63e-e4a7-402e...

it's a DJ-mix, but i think the same style should apply

and dseomn, as i said yesterday: it's very complex at the moment and noone will remember the rules. perhaps you could simplify them so that still everyone knows what to do in every case. or you could add a FAQ below like on PartNumberStyle instead

dseomn: and add some formating as on the other style guides, it's very hard to get the point ;)

ok, /me looks at other style guides

things like "If the ?TrackTitle ends in "medley" it should be changed to "(medley)" unless the ?TrackTitle is "medley" in which case it shouldn't be changed. Also, if the word medley is obviously part of the ?TrackTitle it should not be converted to (medley)." are very hard to understand, f.e.

just don't add anything that isnt there.

sept /'s

:p

aw I missed the moving of zig's