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      • djce fires up the laptop
      • 2004-06-25 17756, 2004

      • djce
        IIRC I've got wireless-tuuls
      • 2004-06-25 17707, 2004

      • yalaforge
        lol
      • 2004-06-25 17717, 2004

      • djce
        I'm logging. I don't understand 'ha! gotcha.', djce. Try /msg MBChatLogger_6 help
      • 2004-06-25 17753, 2004

      • djce
        I've got KDE on it, and was quite pleased to see how easy it's been so far.
      • 2004-06-25 17718, 2004

      • djce
        just the wifi eludes me... and a power "suspend" option.
      • 2004-06-25 17730, 2004

      • yalaforge
        I didn't get suspend to work
      • 2004-06-25 17742, 2004

      • yalaforge
        hm, well, I guess it works, but I can't get it back to life :-)
      • 2004-06-25 17746, 2004

      • djce
        Hitting the power button does a clean shutdown, at least.
      • 2004-06-25 17751, 2004

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      • djce
        instead of a kill
      • 2004-06-25 17700, 2004

      • djce
        Hey jeff. wb.
      • 2004-06-25 17708, 2004

      • yalaforge never dares to hit power buttons on running machines
      • 2004-06-25 17710, 2004

      • jsimmons
        howdy
      • 2004-06-25 17746, 2004

      • djce
        yalaforge: Ah yes, that's the package which gives you iwconfig et al. Yes, I've got that.
      • 2004-06-25 17707, 2004

      • yalaforge
        type iwconfig, you should see a wlan0 interface or something
      • 2004-06-25 17727, 2004

      • djce
        No, that's what I don't get.
      • 2004-06-25 17744, 2004

      • djce
        iwconfig: lo, eth0, sit0.
      • 2004-06-25 17753, 2004

      • yalaforge
        sit0?
      • 2004-06-25 17758, 2004

      • djce
        Which is exactly the same as what I get even before the ipw2100 module is loaded.
      • 2004-06-25 17717, 2004

      • djce
        sit0: ipv6-in-ipv4. Not sure what it is exactly.
      • 2004-06-25 17734, 2004

      • yalaforge
        hm, then you have to get the wlan device working first
      • 2004-06-25 17748, 2004

      • yalaforge
        that's driver specific, I'm afraid
      • 2004-06-25 17714, 2004

      • yalaforge
        after that, all you have to do is to set the essid to ANY to get access to the AP
      • 2004-06-25 17717, 2004

      • soccos_
        is it centrino?
      • 2004-06-25 17739, 2004

      • yalaforge
        Intel 2100
      • 2004-06-25 17754, 2004

      • soccos_
        hmm, is that a yes or a no?
      • 2004-06-25 17754, 2004

      • yalaforge
        my centrino works fine with ndiswrapper and the windows dlls
      • 2004-06-25 17703, 2004

      • soccos_
        oh, fair enough
      • 2004-06-25 17705, 2004

      • yalaforge
        this is a clear "don't know" :-)
      • 2004-06-25 17724, 2004

      • soccos_ vaguely remembers weak centrino support
      • 2004-06-25 17734, 2004

      • yalaforge
        if it was a centrino, djce would have already discovered the sticker on his laptop
      • 2004-06-25 17734, 2004

      • soccos_
        guess that's fixed now
      • 2004-06-25 17738, 2004

      • yalaforge
        yup
      • 2004-06-25 17754, 2004

      • djce
        It is centrino.
      • 2004-06-25 17758, 2004

      • soccos_
        so I'm safe buying a centrion laptop then, w00t!
      • 2004-06-25 17730, 2004

      • djce
        I see a step in the ipw2100 install I haven't followed yet... so I'm reading some more.
      • 2004-06-25 17756, 2004

      • yalaforge
        djce: according to http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/supported_chip… your chipset is supported by ndiswrapper
      • 2004-06-25 17705, 2004

      • yalaforge
        if you run into trouble, you could use it as a fallback
      • 2004-06-25 17716, 2004

      • soccos_
        what brand of laptop is it?
      • 2004-06-25 17744, 2004

      • djce
        HP
      • 2004-06-25 17754, 2004

      • soccos_
        do you like it?
      • 2004-06-25 17709, 2004

      • soccos_ is stuck in a DELL game loop
      • 2004-06-25 17718, 2004

      • yalaforge
        mine is an acer travelmate 291. it was cheap, so the display and sound are lousy
      • 2004-06-25 17734, 2004

      • yalaforge
        but I like the rest of it
      • 2004-06-25 17703, 2004

      • soccos_
        I want line in but it seems rare on laptops
      • 2004-06-25 17735, 2004

      • yalaforge has a microphone in with lousy quality
      • 2004-06-25 17738, 2004

      • soccos_
        maybe I can get a pcmcia card to do that
      • 2004-06-25 17751, 2004

      • soccos_
        yeah, i have mic in but it's not ideal
      • 2004-06-25 17707, 2004

      • yalaforge
      • 2004-06-25 17733, 2004

      • yalaforge
        helped me a lot to get things working
      • 2004-06-25 17742, 2004

      • djce is away: shopping
      • 2004-06-25 17701, 2004

      • soccos_
        cool, that looks helpful
      • 2004-06-25 17735, 2004

      • soccos_
        yalaforge: I was gutted about England
      • 2004-06-25 17756, 2004

      • yalaforge
        it was a cool match though
      • 2004-06-25 17719, 2004

      • soccos_
        I was watching in the US and the pay per view channel cut out on the final penalty
      • 2004-06-25 17726, 2004

      • soccos_
        I was *not* happy
      • 2004-06-25 17735, 2004

      • yalaforge believes that
      • 2004-06-25 17740, 2004

      • yalaforge
        it was very, very dramatic
      • 2004-06-25 17747, 2004

      • soccos_
        hmmm, they don't cover debian on that site
      • 2004-06-25 17718, 2004

      • yalaforge checks his bookmarks ...
      • 2004-06-25 17704, 2004

      • yalaforge
        that depends on the review, it seems
      • 2004-06-25 17707, 2004

      • soccos_
        not on the dell i picked anyway
      • 2004-06-25 17710, 2004

      • soccos_
        oh, right
      • 2004-06-25 17712, 2004

      • yalaforge
        for mine, it was debian specific
      • 2004-06-25 17738, 2004

      • yalaforge
        and actually, it doesn't matter
      • 2004-06-25 17753, 2004

      • yalaforge
        as long as you know that it works, you'll find a way for every distribution
      • 2004-06-25 17708, 2004

      • soccos_
        too much laptop choice
      • 2004-06-25 17711, 2004

      • soccos_
        arg
      • 2004-06-25 17730, 2004

      • yalaforge
        I didn't want to spend too much money, so the choice was rather small :-)
      • 2004-06-25 17749, 2004

      • yalaforge spent 1300 EUR in the end
      • 2004-06-25 17714, 2004

      • yalaforge
        oh, and I wanted a pentium M
      • 2004-06-25 17724, 2004

      • soccos_
        M?
      • 2004-06-25 17732, 2004

      • yalaforge
        Mobile
      • 2004-06-25 17739, 2004

      • yalaforge
        the one that supports speed stepping
      • 2004-06-25 17741, 2004

      • soccos_
        vs Celeron?
      • 2004-06-25 17745, 2004

      • yalaforge
        yup.
      • 2004-06-25 17758, 2004

      • soccos_
        that saves power?
      • 2004-06-25 17711, 2004

      • yalaforge
        yes. my notebook runs for about 4 hours
      • 2004-06-25 17727, 2004

      • yalaforge
        5 hours according to the ads, of course
      • 2004-06-25 17733, 2004

      • soccos_
        mine too, but it's a p3 800
      • 2004-06-25 17700, 2004

      • yalaforge
        mine has 1300Mhz, but you can't compare that
      • 2004-06-25 17715, 2004

      • yalaforge
        it's a bit faster than an athlon 2000
      • 2004-06-25 17722, 2004

      • yalaforge
        athlon XP, that is
      • 2004-06-25 17753, 2004

      • soccos_
        oh well, I'll decided sooner or later :)
      • 2004-06-25 17755, 2004

      • soccos_ has quit
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      • yalaforge is away: for a while
      • 2004-06-25 17758, 2004

      • rjmunro has quit
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      • blizzow has left the channel
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      • MacIntire has quit
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      • blizzow joined the channel
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      • djce is back (gone 01:46:48)
      • 2004-06-25 17732, 2004

      • Knio-sleep
        Knio-sleep is now known as Knio
      • 2004-06-25 17704, 2004

      • MacIntire joined the channel
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      • yalaforge is back (gone 02:56:26)
      • 2004-06-25 17722, 2004

      • mayhem
        na?
      • 2004-06-25 17729, 2004

      • mayhem
        mayhem is now known as ruaok
      • 2004-06-25 17736, 2004

      • yalaforge
        gutgut. und selbst?
      • 2004-06-25 17747, 2004

      • ruaok
        nich' schlecht.
      • 2004-06-25 17752, 2004

      • ruaok
        warm heute,
      • 2004-06-25 17705, 2004

      • yalaforge
        hier auch, aber nicht heiss
      • 2004-06-25 17738, 2004

      • yalaforge
        err, could you please fix the chatlogger. the p*rl part is getting on my nerves ;-)
      • 2004-06-25 17756, 2004

      • yalaforge
        gr*cenote is ok, though
      • 2004-06-25 17758, 2004

      • ruaok
        28C jetzt.
      • 2004-06-25 17707, 2004

      • ruaok
        hah. :-)
      • 2004-06-25 17708, 2004

      • ruaok
        k
      • 2004-06-25 17715, 2004

      • ruaok
        remove p*rl
      • 2004-06-25 17718, 2004

      • ruaok
        add sco
      • 2004-06-25 17723, 2004

      • ruaok
        add what else?
      • 2004-06-25 17724, 2004

      • yalaforge
        :-)
      • 2004-06-25 17734, 2004

      • yalaforge
        hm, don't know
      • 2004-06-25 17732, 2004

      • ruaok
        ok, that is done.
      • 2004-06-25 17737, 2004

      • ruaok
        any other requests?
      • 2004-06-25 17740, 2004

      • yalaforge
        thanks!
      • 2004-06-25 17748, 2004

      • ruaok
        I just need to restart it.
      • 2004-06-25 17754, 2004

      • yalaforge
        nope. not at the moment :-)
      • 2004-06-25 17732, 2004

      • ruaok
        MBChatLogger_6: bye
      • 2004-06-25 17732, 2004

      • MBChatLogger_6
        I see no action items
      • 2004-06-25 17706, 2004

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      • zelazny.freenode.net
        Users on #musicbrainz: MBChatLogger blizzow jsimmons djce elinenbe jlatour jellyfish yalaforge ruaok HairMetalAddict real Knio sward_2 raibesh Pipian sbw roz Necronom klang alus bramp soccos sbw_ibiblio _thom_ somnolent andreasen
      • 2004-06-25 17713, 2004

      • ruaok
        perl is cool
      • 2004-06-25 17718, 2004

      • yalaforge
        I'm logging. I don't understand 'wb', yalaforge. Try /msg MBChatLogger help
      • 2004-06-25 17721, 2004

      • ruaok
        microsoft is cool too
      • 2004-06-25 17725, 2004

      • ruaok
        damn.
      • 2004-06-25 17728, 2004

      • yalaforge
        lol
      • 2004-06-25 17745, 2004

      • MacIntire joined the channel
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      • ruaok
        what do you think of SCO, MBChatLogger?
      • 2004-06-25 17757, 2004

      • ruaok snickers
      • 2004-06-25 17747, 2004

      • ruaok
        and finally, what do you think of windows, MBChatLogger ?
      • 2004-06-25 17705, 2004

      • yalaforge
        that's real AI, I think
      • 2004-06-25 17706, 2004

      • ruaok
        ok enough fun for now.
      • 2004-06-25 17718, 2004

      • ruaok
        yalaforge: got a sec for a head check?
      • 2004-06-25 17726, 2004

      • yalaforge
        sure
      • 2004-06-25 17728, 2004

      • ruaok
      • 2004-06-25 17738, 2004

      • ruaok
        I'm implementing a priorty queue in python.
      • 2004-06-25 17748, 2004

      • ruaok
        works great according to the suggestions.
      • 2004-06-25 17702, 2004

      • ruaok
        except I need to reverse the order of the queue.
      • 2004-06-25 17711, 2004

      • yalaforge
        priority queue? as in "weighted queue"?
      • 2004-06-25 17715, 2004

      • ruaok
        yes.
      • 2004-06-25 17724, 2004

      • ruaok
        CS classes here call it a priority queue
      • 2004-06-25 17728, 2004

      • yalaforge
        so you would use a heap as a data structure
      • 2004-06-25 17733, 2004

      • ruaok
        yes.
      • 2004-06-25 17738, 2004

      • yalaforge
        cool, ok
      • 2004-06-25 17744, 2004

      • ruaok
        well, no not in this case.
      • 2004-06-25 17753, 2004

      • ruaok
        a sorted queue instead
      • 2004-06-25 17702, 2004

      • ruaok
        bisect.insort(self.queue, item)
      • 2004-06-25 17703, 2004

      • yalaforge
        a heap is a sorted queue
      • 2004-06-25 17713, 2004

      • ruaok
        oh. Oops.
      • 2004-06-25 17722, 2004

      • ruaok
        Its beena while since I've dealt with heaps.
      • 2004-06-25 17730, 2004

      • yalaforge
        terminology problem :-)