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djce fires up the laptop
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djce
IIRC I've got wireless-tuuls
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yalaforge
lol
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djce
I'm logging. I don't understand 'ha! gotcha.', djce. Try /msg MBChatLogger_6 help
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djce
I've got KDE on it, and was quite pleased to see how easy it's been so far.
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djce
just the wifi eludes me... and a power "suspend" option.
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yalaforge
I didn't get suspend to work
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yalaforge
hm, well, I guess it works, but I can't get it back to life :-)
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djce
Hitting the power button does a clean shutdown, at least.
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djce
instead of a kill
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djce
Hey jeff. wb.
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yalaforge never dares to hit power buttons on running machines
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jsimmons
howdy
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djce
yalaforge: Ah yes, that's the package which gives you iwconfig et al. Yes, I've got that.
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yalaforge
type iwconfig, you should see a wlan0 interface or something
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djce
No, that's what I don't get.
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djce
iwconfig: lo, eth0, sit0.
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yalaforge
sit0?
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djce
Which is exactly the same as what I get even before the ipw2100 module is loaded.
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djce
sit0: ipv6-in-ipv4. Not sure what it is exactly.
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yalaforge
hm, then you have to get the wlan device working first
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yalaforge
that's driver specific, I'm afraid
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yalaforge
after that, all you have to do is to set the essid to ANY to get access to the AP
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soccos_
is it centrino?
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yalaforge
Intel 2100
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soccos_
hmm, is that a yes or a no?
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yalaforge
my centrino works fine with ndiswrapper and the windows dlls
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soccos_
oh, fair enough
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yalaforge
this is a clear "don't know" :-)
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soccos_ vaguely remembers weak centrino support
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yalaforge
if it was a centrino, djce would have already discovered the sticker on his laptop
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soccos_
guess that's fixed now
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yalaforge
yup
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djce
It is centrino.
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soccos_
so I'm safe buying a centrion laptop then, w00t!
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djce
I see a step in the ipw2100 install I haven't followed yet... so I'm reading some more.
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yalaforge
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yalaforge
if you run into trouble, you could use it as a fallback
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soccos_
what brand of laptop is it?
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djce
HP
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soccos_
do you like it?
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soccos_ is stuck in a DELL game loop
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yalaforge
mine is an acer travelmate 291. it was cheap, so the display and sound are lousy
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yalaforge
but I like the rest of it
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soccos_
I want line in but it seems rare on laptops
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yalaforge has a microphone in with lousy quality
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soccos_
maybe I can get a pcmcia card to do that
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soccos_
yeah, i have mic in but it's not ideal
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yalaforge
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yalaforge
helped me a lot to get things working
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djce is away: shopping
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soccos_
cool, that looks helpful
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soccos_
yalaforge: I was gutted about England
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yalaforge
it was a cool match though
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soccos_
I was watching in the US and the pay per view channel cut out on the final penalty
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soccos_
I was *not* happy
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yalaforge believes that
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yalaforge
it was very, very dramatic
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soccos_
hmmm, they don't cover debian on that site
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yalaforge checks his bookmarks ...
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yalaforge
that depends on the review, it seems
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soccos_
not on the dell i picked anyway
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soccos_
oh, right
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yalaforge
for mine, it was debian specific
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yalaforge
and actually, it doesn't matter
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yalaforge
as long as you know that it works, you'll find a way for every distribution
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soccos_
too much laptop choice
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soccos_
arg
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yalaforge
I didn't want to spend too much money, so the choice was rather small :-)
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yalaforge spent 1300 EUR in the end
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yalaforge
oh, and I wanted a pentium M
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soccos_
M?
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yalaforge
Mobile
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yalaforge
the one that supports speed stepping
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soccos_
vs Celeron?
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yalaforge
yup.
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soccos_
that saves power?
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yalaforge
yes. my notebook runs for about 4 hours
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yalaforge
5 hours according to the ads, of course
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soccos_
mine too, but it's a p3 800
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yalaforge
mine has 1300Mhz, but you can't compare that
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yalaforge
it's a bit faster than an athlon 2000
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yalaforge
athlon XP, that is
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soccos_
oh well, I'll decided sooner or later :)
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yalaforge is away: for a while
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djce is back (gone 01:46:48)
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Knio-sleep
Knio-sleep is now known as Knio
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yalaforge is back (gone 02:56:26)
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mayhem
na?
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mayhem
mayhem is now known as ruaok
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yalaforge
gutgut. und selbst?
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ruaok
nich' schlecht.
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ruaok
warm heute,
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yalaforge
hier auch, aber nicht heiss
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yalaforge
err, could you please fix the chatlogger. the p*rl part is getting on my nerves ;-)
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yalaforge
gr*cenote is ok, though
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ruaok
28C jetzt.
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ruaok
hah. :-)
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ruaok
k
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ruaok
remove p*rl
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ruaok
add sco
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ruaok
add what else?
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yalaforge
:-)
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yalaforge
hm, don't know
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ruaok
ok, that is done.
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ruaok
any other requests?
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yalaforge
thanks!
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ruaok
I just need to restart it.
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yalaforge
nope. not at the moment :-)
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ruaok
MBChatLogger_6: bye
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MBChatLogger_6
I see no action items
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Users on #musicbrainz: MBChatLogger blizzow jsimmons djce elinenbe jlatour jellyfish yalaforge ruaok HairMetalAddict real Knio sward_2 raibesh Pipian sbw roz Necronom klang alus bramp soccos sbw_ibiblio _thom_ somnolent andreasen
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ruaok
perl is cool
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yalaforge
I'm logging. I don't understand 'wb', yalaforge. Try /msg MBChatLogger help
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ruaok
microsoft is cool too
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ruaok
damn.
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yalaforge
lol
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MacIntire joined the channel
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ruaok
what do you think of SCO, MBChatLogger?
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ruaok snickers
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ruaok
and finally, what do you think of windows, MBChatLogger ?
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yalaforge
that's real AI, I think
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ruaok
ok enough fun for now.
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ruaok
yalaforge: got a sec for a head check?
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yalaforge
sure
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ruaok
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ruaok
I'm implementing a priorty queue in python.
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ruaok
works great according to the suggestions.
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ruaok
except I need to reverse the order of the queue.
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yalaforge
priority queue? as in "weighted queue"?
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ruaok
yes.
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ruaok
CS classes here call it a priority queue
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yalaforge
so you would use a heap as a data structure
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ruaok
yes.
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yalaforge
cool, ok
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ruaok
well, no not in this case.
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ruaok
a sorted queue instead
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ruaok
bisect.insort(self.queue, item)
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yalaforge
a heap is a sorted queue
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ruaok
oh. Oops.
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ruaok
Its beena while since I've dealt with heaps.
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yalaforge
terminology problem :-)