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      • djce
        ruaok: did you get the helix player working? I can't remember if I asked you already.
      • 2004-06-01 15357, 2004

      • djce
        andyg: to not having one? I expect so. To having one, and not having a PC? I doubt it. I like my server to have some grunt :-)
      • 2004-06-01 15300, 2004

      • ruaok
        you did, and I did.
      • 2004-06-01 15304, 2004

      • djce
        hm
      • 2004-06-01 15310, 2004

      • djce
        must try again then...
      • 2004-06-01 15313, 2004

      • ruaok
        grunt. hehehehha
      • 2004-06-01 15326, 2004

      • ruaok
        what version of gcc are you using?
      • 2004-06-01 15336, 2004

      • ruaok
        it doesn't like 3.2
      • 2004-06-01 15338, 2004

      • andyg
        yeah, I still use my PC for gaming, burning CDs, video editing, and heavy network stuff like musicbrainz client :)
      • 2004-06-01 15340, 2004

      • djce checks
      • 2004-06-01 15349, 2004

      • djce
        gcc (GCC) 3.3.3 (Debian 20040422)
      • 2004-06-01 15304, 2004

      • ruaok
        me too.
      • 2004-06-01 15312, 2004

      • ruaok
        but then again I use the CVS version.
      • 2004-06-01 15326, 2004

      • ruaok
        Soon I will update it to add playback support to picard.
      • 2004-06-01 15346, 2004

      • djce
        CVS version is for helix "members" only right?
      • 2004-06-01 15300, 2004

      • djce
        I looked at that the other day and didn't get very far..
      • 2004-06-01 15332, 2004

      • djce
        I need a non-X11 Real stream player :-(
      • 2004-06-01 15332, 2004

      • ruaok
        yes, but signing up to be a member is a snap
      • 2004-06-01 15312, 2004

      • djce
        "Only project developers can access the CVS tree" - so I can sign up to that?
      • 2004-06-01 15318, 2004

      • andyg still gets nightmares about Real
      • 2004-06-01 15330, 2004

      • ruaok
        yes.
      • 2004-06-01 15339, 2004

      • djce
        hm.. ok
      • 2004-06-01 15340, 2004

      • ruaok
        just create an account and you get access.
      • 2004-06-01 15344, 2004

      • djce
        I'll try it.. thanks!
      • 2004-06-01 15358, 2004

      • ruaok
        and I agree, their player is good for non-x11 playback.
      • 2004-06-01 15320, 2004

      • ruaok
        andyg: real != helix
      • 2004-06-01 15332, 2004

      • thomasvs joined the channel
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      • ruaok
        real - evil = helix
      • 2004-06-01 15350, 2004

      • djce
        goddamn automods mailing list! :-) which address did I use to sign up then? grrrr
      • 2004-06-01 15318, 2004

      • ruaok
        :-)
      • 2004-06-01 15345, 2004

      • andyg
        ruaok: that's good, I await the day everyone just uses Ogg streaming and whatever future Ogg video stuff they're working on
      • 2004-06-01 15306, 2004

      • ruaok is with andyg
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      • jwatk03 joined the channel
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      • djce
        ruaok: registering didn't seem to work. :-( ssh credentials refused.
      • 2004-06-01 15346, 2004

      • ruaok
        it takes a little while for the login info to propagate to the CVS server.
      • 2004-06-01 15300, 2004

      • djce
        ah. k
      • 2004-06-01 15304, 2004

      • djce
        I'll try later then.
      • 2004-06-01 15305, 2004

      • ruaok
        its a real (rimshot) pain in the ass.
      • 2004-06-01 15312, 2004

      • ruaok
        should be less than an hour.
      • 2004-06-01 15327, 2004

      • ruaok
        so... on andyg's patch -- do you want to look into that or should I?
      • 2004-06-01 15340, 2004

      • thomasvs
        thomasvs is now known as skeletor
      • 2004-06-01 15315, 2004

      • skeletor
        skeletor is now known as she-ra
      • 2004-06-01 15326, 2004

      • djce
        patch... hmmm... I read that somewhere..
      • 2004-06-01 15329, 2004

      • djce goes to find it again
      • 2004-06-01 15348, 2004

      • djce
        Match.pl?
      • 2004-06-01 15325, 2004

      • ruaok
        yup.
      • 2004-06-01 15323, 2004

      • she-ra
        she-ra is now known as thomasvs
      • 2004-06-01 15358, 2004

      • yalaforge joined the channel
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      • djce
        wb yalaforge
      • 2004-06-01 15344, 2004

      • yalaforge
        hey!
      • 2004-06-01 15355, 2004

      • yalaforge
        you're the one I was looking for :-)
      • 2004-06-01 15303, 2004

      • yalaforge
        are you familiar with perl bundles?
      • 2004-06-01 15307, 2004

      • djce hides over there
      • 2004-06-01 15313, 2004

      • yalaforge
        :-)
      • 2004-06-01 15314, 2004

      • djce
        CPAN? Not really.
      • 2004-06-01 15316, 2004

      • djce
        I know they exist.
      • 2004-06-01 15323, 2004

      • djce
        that's about it.
      • 2004-06-01 15337, 2004

      • yalaforge
        I think it would be cool to have a bundle that automatically installs mb_server deps
      • 2004-06-01 15315, 2004

      • Russss joined the channel
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      • yalaforge has to re-activate his CPAN login to upload it
      • 2004-06-01 15317, 2004

      • andyg
        I think it's real easy to create a bundle
      • 2004-06-01 15324, 2004

      • yalaforge
        yup
      • 2004-06-01 15329, 2004

      • andyg
        oh did you already make one?
      • 2004-06-01 15338, 2004

      • yalaforge
        yes. but it's not yet uploaded
      • 2004-06-01 15349, 2004

      • yalaforge
        I don#
      • 2004-06-01 15349, 2004

      • andyg
        cool
      • 2004-06-01 15355, 2004

      • yalaforge
        damn.
      • 2004-06-01 15307, 2004

      • andyg
        do they have to re-authorize you when you are inactive?
      • 2004-06-01 15322, 2004

      • yalaforge
        I don't know
      • 2004-06-01 15344, 2004

      • yalaforge
        hm. ok, now I have the bundle in a nice .tar.gz. do you know how I install it?
      • 2004-06-01 15355, 2004

      • yalaforge
        sounds like a silly question, but the FAQ doesn't cover it
      • 2004-06-01 15305, 2004

      • andyg
        same as any other perl module?
      • 2004-06-01 15309, 2004

      • andyg
        does it have a Makefile.PL?
      • 2004-06-01 15315, 2004

      • yalaforge
        yup
      • 2004-06-01 15332, 2004

      • yalaforge
        I already tried that. perhaps it didn't do anything because I already have everything installed
      • 2004-06-01 15337, 2004

      • andyg
        hmm
      • 2004-06-01 15341, 2004

      • yalaforge goes to fetch another computer
      • 2004-06-01 15355, 2004

      • andyg
        not sure, maybe bundles only work whe you run them from CPAN shell
      • 2004-06-01 15310, 2004

      • andyg looks at the source for a bundle
      • 2004-06-01 15316, 2004

      • yalaforge
        possible. that's what I thought, too
      • 2004-06-01 15337, 2004

      • andyg
        there's gotta be a way to test though
      • 2004-06-01 15352, 2004

      • djce
        Godammit, for the second this evening. I need a new sound card. Mine is totally fscked.
      • 2004-06-01 15317, 2004

      • yalaforge never had a soundcard
      • 2004-06-01 15320, 2004

      • djce
        Hearing one's favourite albums utterly, utterly trashed by a really broken sound card is painful.
      • 2004-06-01 15355, 2004

      • yalaforge
        djce: do you have contact to the author of Text::Unaccent?
      • 2004-06-01 15334, 2004

      • djce
        let me check.
      • 2004-06-01 15306, 2004

      • djce
        No, I don't think so, not yet.
      • 2004-06-01 15315, 2004

      • andyg
        the source is pretty bare, just contains that CONTENTS section, I bet you do have to run it from CPAN
      • 2004-06-01 15332, 2004

      • yalaforge
        as mb_server's INSTALL says, Text::Unaccent on CPAN is outdated
      • 2004-06-01 15339, 2004

      • andyg
        ah yeah you're going to have some trouble with those custom patched modules
      • 2004-06-01 15355, 2004

      • yalaforge
        I didn't include them for the moment
      • 2004-06-01 15310, 2004

      • yalaforge
        perhaps we can get the patches merged into the upstream versions
      • 2004-06-01 15306, 2004

      • andyg
        how long ago did you contact the T::U guy?
      • 2004-06-01 15318, 2004

      • andyg
        I think after a certain period you can take it over
      • 2004-06-01 15324, 2004

      • ruaok
        djce: I've got spare soundcards here.
      • 2004-06-01 15341, 2004

      • ruaok
        But I think you can get a new low end one for the money it would take to ship one of these here.
      • 2004-06-01 15342, 2004

      • andyg
        an original sblive is very cheap <$20 probably, a top of the line Audigy2 is like $75, in the US at least
      • 2004-06-01 15337, 2004

      • djce
        s/$/�/ for UK
      • 2004-06-01 15301, 2004

      • ruaok
        yup.
      • 2004-06-01 15344, 2004

      • djce
        Just in case anyone's got nothing better to do, you can hear it for yourself: http://www.musicbrainz.org/~dave/fscked-sound/
      • 2004-06-01 15353, 2004

      • djce
        I have no life :-)
      • 2004-06-01 15305, 2004

      • yalaforge
        which file is it?
      • 2004-06-01 15308, 2004

      • yalaforge neither
      • 2004-06-01 15328, 2004

      • djce
        mp3=orig wav=fscked
      • 2004-06-01 15303, 2004

      • yalaforge
        always good to have a reference. just in case it was punk rock or something ;->
      • 2004-06-01 15318, 2004

      • andyg
        that's a good album ;)
      • 2004-06-01 15332, 2004

      • djce
        it was, until my system played it :-/
      • 2004-06-01 15317, 2004

      • yalaforge
        wow. ogg123 froze
      • 2004-06-01 15340, 2004

      • yalaforge
        not even kill helps
      • 2004-06-01 15347, 2004

      • djce
        sorry!
      • 2004-06-01 15358, 2004

      • yalaforge
        np. kill -9 cleans up the mess :-)
      • 2004-06-01 15301, 2004

      • djce
        shouldn't have done.. I encoded it myself
      • 2004-06-01 15301, 2004

      • andyg
        the ogg is bad?
      • 2004-06-01 15323, 2004

      • djce
        ogg123 plays it here...
      • 2004-06-01 15332, 2004

      • andyg
        xmms played it fine
      • 2004-06-01 15343, 2004

      • yalaforge
        I've got a strange mixture of esd and alsa running
      • 2004-06-01 15318, 2004

      • yalaforge
        now to the mp3 :-)
      • 2004-06-01 15341, 2004

      • djce doesn't understand Linux sound systems
      • 2004-06-01 15354, 2004

      • yalaforge still has hope
      • 2004-06-01 15335, 2004

      • yalaforge
        hm, after all there isn't so much difference to the .ogg ;->
      • 2004-06-01 15337, 2004

      • ruaok
        ALSA used to be nice,.
      • 2004-06-01 15359, 2004

      • ruaok
        then they tweaked the UI three times in a major way, and each time I had to reimplment the zinf plugin.
      • 2004-06-01 15308, 2004

      • ruaok
        I got kinda sick of that after the 3rd time.
      • 2004-06-01 15341, 2004

      • yalaforge
        ok, I hope the bundle goes it's way on CPAN. the whole process is kind of magic to me
      • 2004-06-01 15349, 2004

      • djce
        Stupid thing is I've got on-board sound on the mobo, but it registers a dsp but no mixer. So I can't hear it :-(
      • 2004-06-01 15326, 2004

      • yalaforge
        strange. my on-board sound chips always worked out of the box
      • 2004-06-01 15346, 2004

      • ruaok
        djce: my mobo does the same thing.
      • 2004-06-01 15359, 2004

      • yalaforge
        I think I have an AC97 compatible here
      • 2004-06-01 15304, 2004

      • ruaok
        thats one of the reasons I use the mac on my desktop
      • 2004-06-01 15324, 2004

      • djce
        IIRC when I tried popping out the card (so the mobo sound was the only sound device) I didn't get a dsp either.
      • 2004-06-01 15351, 2004

      • yalaforge
        my debian default kernels always got things right
      • 2004-06-01 15326, 2004

      • jinxie
        so did my acubus...
      • 2004-06-01 15310, 2004

      • yalaforge is away: for a while
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      • HairMetalAddict joined the channel
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      • ruaok
        bbiab
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      • ruaok is away: I'm busy
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      • jinxie pokes at mIRC, wondering how to set an away msg...
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      • jwatk03
        just type /away
      • 2004-06-01 15306, 2004

      • jwatk03
        and your msg
      • 2004-06-01 15326, 2004

      • jinxie
        hmmm... no wonder i couldn't find it...
      • 2004-06-01 15329, 2004

      • jinxie
        thanks!
      • 2004-06-01 15304, 2004

      • jwatk03
        at least that is what i think it is...
      • 2004-06-01 15342, 2004

      • jinxie
        hm...
      • 2004-06-01 15347, 2004

      • jinxie
        did it say anyting?
      • 2004-06-01 15313, 2004

      • jinxie
        cool...
      • 2004-06-01 15318, 2004

      • jwatk03
        i can't tell i'm using chatzilla so everything is weird for me
      • 2004-06-01 15324, 2004

      • jinxie
        now, how do i come back.... LOL
      • 2004-06-01 15353, 2004

      • jwatk03
        i can't even tell if anyone is away in chatzilla
      • 2004-06-01 15351, 2004

      • jinxie
        ewww...
      • 2004-06-01 15307, 2004

      • jinxie
        i use mIRC